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Tiggs wrote:

Hello Folks,

 

Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.

 

Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.

 

• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?  Shocked, curious, and a little betrayed.
• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?  Intrigued and very upset at the interface/controls (keymap).
• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?  After remaping every key i could back to original SWG style ...it started getting better. 
• What class did you choose to play?  Jedi
• What do you like the most about NGE?  I was actually fine with old style, not sure what I like "most" about this style.  I really do not have a "like" as of yet.
• What do you dislike about NGE?  I dislike the fact of forced WASD so far, unless you are lucky enough to figure out how to remap keys that are allowed to be remapped (helps some).  I dislike the targeting.  I feel there should be an "autolock" onto your target.  You can not really run around and shoot your target.  But yet your target can have an autolock on you.  When it comes time to PvP, lot of ppl are going to have problems because players do not stand still like npc's do.

Thanks folks!

 

 

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When first announced:  Petrified with fear

When immediately entered:  Irritated and frustrated with the bugs, uncomfortable with the side-mounted camera angle

After an hour: Has some promise, but everything is TOO fast - seems cartoonish, or like an old 50's 8mm film (think old baseball footage)

Class: Jedi/FS

Liked Most: 

- Stuff to do right away, quests with stories - I like that.  Hope it holds out all the way to CL90 though.

- TC6 seemed pretty lag-free, even with all the droids in the basement

- Loot on mobs!  Wow, haven't seen that in ages.

Disliked Most: (sorry, gonna be a longer list)

- Everything seems too fast - by about 20%.  Combat speed is bearable, but the run/walk speed is way off (can't walk anymore? what about moonlit strolls on the beach? RP parades?)

- Don't like the forced linear progression of skills

- Don't like being FORCED into a Rebel role at the outset - I'm an Imperial Captain in live, have been since day 1 - this is still a ROLE PLAYING game, right?

- Padawan outfit obtained within first 10 minutes?  Could we delay that just a bit?

Message Edited by Ninyania on 11-06-2005 03:51 AM

Cons:

Biggest worry is social.  Very hard to chat of communicate in game while fighting.  Not everyone is able to use seocnd party voice communication.  While me guild does have a TS server, not everyone it our guild is able to access it due to various technical issues.  Can we make the Chat a little eaier and intuitive?

I am also concerned about those with disabilities being able tro continue to play.  I saw that your were passing those concerns on to the Dev staff and i hope they can work something out.

Finally, there is a lot of concern amongst testers in our guild that the leveling of characters is too linear.  I mean to say that there is apparaently only one path to go for the characters to move up.  Also that the 9 professions are cookie cutter and there is little customization you can do for your individual skill sets.

No-decay makes me worried that crafters will get short shrift.  How will we be useful in a world of no -decay and quest items?

Pros:

Personally I do not mind the targeting and combat, from what little I have been able to play (got stuck  in the tutorial) i hope to test more.

The voice overs are actually pretty good.  I had heard some complaints but i thought Threepio and Han were fine.  That adds to the "Star Warsy" feel.

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Tiggs wrote:

Hello Folks,

Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.

Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.

• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
• What class did you choose to play?
• What do you like the most about NGE?
• What do you dislike about NGE?

Thanks folks!

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I was excited that there was going to be a new change.

I thought that it was an interesting change and that it could still have a lot of potential.

I began to miss turn based. I thought the tutorial was great and all but after a while the new combat just sort of...lost my interest.

Ofcourse jedi.

In all honesty? I loved the voice overs. Whoever did Han did a great job.

The combat...If all of these changes came to the turn based system then i wouldnt be too bothered. Just this new system will take a lot of getting used to.

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Tiggs wrote:

Hello Folks,

 

Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.

 

Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.

 

• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?

I was shocked that the only mmorpg on the market that had an open leveling system gets streamlined like every other title on the market.

• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?

Where is my EQ keyboard layout?

• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?

Cool diablo2 in 3d. When has my pc turned into a ps2?

• What class did you choose to play?

Entertainer.

• What do you like the most about NGE?

From the gameplay nothing. Its like playing episode 4 at the start.

• What do you dislike about NGE?

1. That the open classsystem has changed.
2. That classes like ch get killed. (i have ch on live)
3. That crafters cant choose what 2 professions they want to play. (i have an architect/droid engineer on live)
4. The point & click interface.
5. The ui changes like the keyboard layout.
6. That more jedi then ever will run around.

Thanks folks!

 

 

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• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
• What class did you choose to play?
• What do you like the most about NGE?
• What do you dislike about NGE?

 

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• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?

Pretty Upset that people in the village wont be rewarded for their great effort and think vets should be rewarded more.

• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?

Liked the voice overs, disliked the system of movement and liked the old targeting more than the Auto-Select type

• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?

Unfortunately got stuck at the falcon ramp like many others

• What class did you choose to play?

Jedi

• What do you like the most about NGE?

Voice overs and Faster shooting

• What do you dislike about NGE?

The new "Hold-to-shoot" combat and targeting. Also the movement made me quite dizzy.

 

I'll probably post again once I get past the falcon phase

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Tiggs wrote:

Hello Folks,

 

Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.

 

Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.

 

• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?

I felt like an idiot for buying 2 copies of the Obi-wan Expansion. Annoucing this a day or two after the expansion, I felt betrayed. Even though I feel betrayed, I still love the bunker house I have. All the playing I've done on Mustafar, I did get my 30 bucks worth, I'm sure I'll be back there to get t he other 30 bucks worth.  Hoping all my reward items aren't worthless.

• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?

Can't enter the game, you idiots didn't make enough TC servers and the cap is too low. Got in once and I was bugged trying to enter the falcon. Finally got in, 4:30 am cst. OMG, I thought my last 5 minutes I played I was fun. Graphics better, Voice overs are great. Why wasn't this done earlier ?

• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?

I don't know, only made it 5 mins. But have been waiting well over 24 hours to get on Test Center and actually check it out. Oh man, I had so much fun on the space station doing the tutorial. Now make all the space stations like that but with different quests and what not. I really liked the UI and the feel of everything. I think this could save the game.

• What class did you choose to play?

I picked Jedi. And glad I did, everyone else I saw was a jedi. I didn't really care, long as we are all having fun.

• What do you like the most about NGE?

It has to be better than what we have now, currently this game is dying. Mostly due to inept management and DEVS not listening to us players. Being a full template Jedi, has been nerfed to hell. So figure with this new system, we'll all be nerfed but at least the combat will be fun and maybe more people will play the game. Man that space space tutorial ROCKS !! I really love the new interface. I also think the profession skill pies are nice. Just replace the cheesy picks with better ones. Hire some better artists.  If SOE doesn't make this game into a hit, then they have some serious problems.

• What do you dislike about NGE?

Well still idiots running the show, I'm sure they'll bork it up. I dislike not being able to have another character slot. Being a pre-NGE jedi I get one, everyone else is SOL. I think it's stupid I can't claim my rewards on each and every character I have. I was stupid and bought your lies and bought the ToOW expansion. Now if I want to change my character class after I use all his future respecs. I'll be screwed. I really hate you screwed my friends and got rid of Creature handler. Especially when just 2 Friday features ago you show off a CH necklace. And what was the point of the CH revamp anyhow when you go and just take a big dump on them ? Ok only complaint, using radial menus. Real pain trying to store my vehicles and mounts. Had hard time trying to use elevator in my bunker house. Finally just figured out to use the ~ key. But that is a pain. Wish I could target myself again too. I'm still upset about the ToOW expansion, if you want to earn some respect, make that expansion free and reimburse everyone that bought it.  I guarantee you'd make a lot of people happy and would make more money in the long run.

Thanks folks!

 

 

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The voice overs are cool, the few minutes I had. I did like it. But the fact you been working on this for a year, and a big old company with tons of resources can't even get enough Test Centers up and running basically tells me you still have no clue. That and with the Falcon bug. You think someone would have found that bug.

I hope this saves the game honestly, I do love Star Wars.  I'll be making out I have 2 accounts, each has a jedi. So 4 toons on one server for the price of two.

It's kinda hard to explain, I'm excited on one hand. But on the other, looking at your track record I have really low expectations.  That and if it turns out to be more of FPS, why pay a monthly subscription. I'll just play one of the many other games I've bought that require no monthly fees to play. Ok after playing, it's not a FPS. The combat is more fun. The game is more like KOTOR. And that is cool, I hope many people come back to play. The game is going to rock.

Message Edited by docRootbeer on 11-06-2005 12:48 PM

Hopeful. Maybe it's better than the CU?

Confused. Took a while to figure out the new keymap, which I'm not a fan of. I prefer to use the mouse to move, and not WASD. Couldn't figure out how to chat either.

Unfortunately I couldn't play for an hour. The Medical droid was bugged once, the ramp was bugged once, and since then the servers have been full.

Jedi and Spy.

Honestly? The outdoors-wear. Hearing about the veteran rewards.

The complete alteration of the keymap. What used to be CTRL+S (Referring to the new skill interface and it's shoddy interface graphics). The lack of information about how the NGE will affect our current in-game items such as: AA's, CA's, ADK's, weapons, armor, etc. The "Snappy" movements. The way it was announced to us. The sneaky way it was marketed. Not being able to test. Making Jedi a beginning profession. The timeline for NGE and the content from RoTW/ToOW don't really seem to match up.

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Tiggs wrote:

 

 

• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
  

Very shocked at this bomb that was dropped on us with no notice and just after an expansion. I feel that many new subscribers will feel robbed. Very low tact on the part of SOE, I mean seriously, you announce that your changing the entire game in just 2 weeks. Its not that I am against the NGE, however, I am against at the managment of SOE and Lucas Arts for another shotty job.

• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?

I liked it right in the begining.

• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?

Bored, mainly cause after over two years of playing this game I dont want to ever grind another character for any game for the rest of my life.

• What class did you choose to play?

Jedi, I have to see what the DEvs messed up this time, and their is allot. Mainly the lack of skills. SO much has been taken away and now all we have left are going to be cookie cutter Jedis.

• What do you like the most about NGE?

Something fresh and faster combat. Although I see allot of bugs with comabt and specials when trying to use the 1-= keys.

• What do you dislike about NGE?

To cookie cutter, no individulism in professions. Look above for my response to the lack of Jedi skills. Very dissapointing.

Thanks folks!

Your welcome!

 

 

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• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?

My first reaction were disbelief. CH gone, expansion going live the day before the announcement, I really thought this were some strange joke and I started to go through my mind if I've ever heard of something similar to April Fool's joke around Halloween. While I agreed this the new (old) CU system had its flaws just like the original one, I hadn't expected a change as big as this 6 months after the first one.

• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?

Star Wars! The intro sequence is really good. Next thought as I stood there in medical bay were "Interesting"

• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?

Haven't played for an hour, manage to get myself stuck everywhere. Falcon Bridge and the medical bay, can't make those two things trigger. But, I've had a little bit of combat with those stormies and my immediate reaction were "Nice". Has alot of potential but two things should be prioritized right now. The use of cover need to be improved, right now it barely helped at all. Since the crates in theory allows you to complely cover yourself from 2 stormies while firing at the one on the far right this is what I did, didn't do much at all. They shot through the crates. Second issue being the NPC AI. Of course, this is the tutorial and can't make it really hard there I suppose but I hope that in live and higher levels will include NPC's running for cover, proning, kneeling, rolling, you name it. Right now it's all about holding your left mouse button, hoping you don't run out of health.

• What class did you choose to play?

Bounty Hunter.

• What do you like the most about NGE?

I love the intro, that it feels alot like Star Wars, atleast during the tutorial. (haven't gone any further)

• What do you dislike about NGE?

The things I mentioned above about cover and NPC AI.

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Tiggs wrote:

Hello Folks,

 

Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.

 

Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.

 

• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?

**edit**???

• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?

seemed interesting

• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?

Something needs to be done about creature harvesting, as it stands the randomness and lack of multiple harvesters will kill the chef and Armorsmith biz. Leave the harvest option as it is

• What class did you choose to play?

Trader:  Munitions

• What do you like the most about NGE?

Too early to tell

• What do you dislike about NGE?

So far movement, I always used my mouse pointer to move me around, I do not like loosing that option.

Thanks folks!

 

 

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Answers will be in yellow...

• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
• I thought "This may save the game" because frankly... I was so bored with it, I hadn't played in weeks
• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
• I loved the new tutorial, loved the fact of adding voices to the game, HATED the fact that I couldn't set up my original SWG controls I have on live now... I like to use the mouse to move...
• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
• I LOVE it... finally I feel like I am actually taking part in combat... not some boring click and wait game... and BTW as you can see by my subscribe date... I have been here since the begining... I have waited a LONG time for this...
• What class did you choose to play?
• Jedi, I bought this game to play a Jedi, and I will always play a Jedi.
• What do you like the most about NGE?
• Hard to say as I haven't gotten into higher combat yet... BUT... I can say I love the new fast paced action... I love the new cool tutorial...
• What do you dislike about NGE?
• As I said above.. hard to say... but as of right now... I don't care for the fact of not being able to set up the original controls that came with the game... I got used to those when I bought it... and I like them best... I don't care for moving with the keyboard...

• What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
  Totally shocked. I couldn't believe it. I felt ripped off. Then I started thinking about how much better the game might have been if it had started out like this... And it made me realize the only thing that really sucks is all that people have to lose... i.e. people spending hundreds of millions of credits on a set of adk'ed armor that's about to be worthless, etc. also the long long long jedi grind that some people did and plus the grinding out of a template (some over and over...), and now they are no longer the uber badasses they were, they are just another profession... that ANYONE can START as.
  
• What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
  STAR WARS THEME MUSIC, I WAS PUMPED!!!!
  
• What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
  <inner monologue>Damn, this twitch thing is making the already PITA low level grinding even worse than it was!</inner monologue> Basically, no matter how quest based it is, killing a bunch of little animals will never give the "star wars feel".
  
• What class did you choose to play?
  Jedi - BECAUSE I was the most curious about that prof. I don't particularly want to play one, I'll probly be a smuggler when it goes live. But I wanted to see what it was like since they are going from superheroes to just another proffession.
  
• What do you like the most about NGE?
  TBD: meaning I think the thing I am (still) most exited about is the way classes are being tailored to starwars characters. If that won't get the "star wars feel", then nothing will. Now, I'm not saying I like the idea of going from 32 profs to 9. Nor do I like the fact that we will have to have ONE prof and ONE ONLY, plus never being able to switch profs. That all is total crap if you ask me. I just like the idea of smugglers smuggling, bounty hunters doing bounties, etc.
  
• What do you dislike about NGE?
  Jedi's (melee profs in general) are super-screwed in PvP, as well as making any combat situation way difficult. I don't know that for sure, of course, but making a prediction, and I'm confident it's an accurate one.. As if it wasn't already enough of a pain in the butt to chase someone around while you're spamming attacks, now you have to chase them around in first person mode, remaining so close that if they stop running they are suddenly behind you and you can't see them at all... meaning turn around and/or zoom out (which makes it even more difficult because the camera cocks to the side when you're zoomed out).
  
• Another note:
  One problem I had with this so far: The feel of the new combat system in the tutorial (at the beginning and after the falcon while on teh station) is somehow different from the feel of it applied to our existing SWG world. I'll have to get some sleep before I can make sense out of that and figure out why that is. /hmmmmm

Message Edited by JoeHeff on 11-06-2005 03:56 AM

Ovy Isoi, MD

Well, CU was cool. The expansions were neat. But NGE SUCKS. Goodbye, SOE... Hello Blizzard. Ahhhhh the sweet smell of a customer-oriented company