Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.
Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
What class did you choose to play?
What do you like the most about NGE?
What do you dislike about NGE?
Thanks folks!
Feelings: Complete surprise... I hadn't really been in SWG for 2 months or so (EQ2 has won my heart). I thought "wow.. if done right, these could get me back into the game!"
Feelings immediately in game: WOW! I love the new over the shoulder view and the tutorial is simply amazing - quite possibly the best quest I've done in any MMORPG. Love the new space sector too!
Feelings after an hour: WOW WOW WOW WOW! This is so cool and really can't wait for it to hit live.
Class: Spy.
Like most: The freshness of it all... for the first time in two years, Star Wars has finally been put into Star Wars Galaxies.
Dislike: Would like the ability to drop / change professions without deleting my toon. An additional character slot would be good.. concerned that people will just pick jedi.
STEN EX-Leader of SMEG, RIP Proud ex-member of EEVIL, RIP
I have not been able to log in to any TC at all. I have tried a lot, but no luck
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced? Disbelief. Would never dream of a change like this so soon after a new expansion (feels like I got tricked). After reading all the info available at the time I felt that some of the changes were good others were terrible!
What were your feelings when you immediately entered the game? Haven’t been able to test it
What were your feelings after you played for an hour?
What class did you choose to play?
What do you like the most about NGE? I like any change. The cu was so wrong. It ruined the game for me. I like the role commando are getting (makes me want to be one)
What do you dislike about NGE? I feel that the change from professions to classes is wrong. I loved the possibilities the 32 professions gave. Some of the professions could be removed. But it should have been more left. We really should have a creature handler, we should have different combat classes. We should have a carabineer (infantry) class there is no battle whit out one. There should be a rifleman class. I really hate that you can not change class after the tokens are gone. Its one of the last things left in this game that can make it unique.
Some thoughts: But sins you have made it to classes, I miss some classes. There should be a soldier class. When in the soldier class, you would have to choose to be a carabineer or rifleman (there is no such thing as a pistoler soldier. A pistol is a side arm, used when you’re out of ammo, or when the rifleman are in close combat. I also feel that pistoler is cowered by smuggler). For me the creature handler is an iconic class. Remember when Luke had killed the rancor in return of the jedi? When the guy storming in, pushing every one to the side crying. Ever sins then I though how cool it must have been to be a creature handler. So when the game came, I become one (2 times!)
The interface and all that can be tough, so I don’t care so much about that. Our professions can be cut down a lot. We don’t need 3 types of medics, entertainers or Bio engineers (sorry guys). I think you have done some thing smart whit the melee/range problem. My biggest problem whit this is only 9 classes and not be able to change class whit out delete you character.
Don't argue with idiots, they just drag you down to their lvl and beat you with experience!!
Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.
Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced? unhappy, especially that you annouced it a day after ToOW, making many looted items pointless (from what ive heard of jedi characters, there is no force bar, so what is the point of all the robes that were added?, and then of course there are the CH rings and so on). After paying $60 for it for 2 of my accounts, I feel cheated. Some see it as a bait-and-switch, which I feel is sleezy at best, so expect people like myself to be very negative about this, sorry.
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game? disappointed
What were your feelings after you played for a hour? annoyed/frustrated due to bugs
What class did you choose to play? BH
What do you like the most about NGE? ...the graphics are slightly more polished? Always good to see new quests.
What do you dislike about NGE? Lacks any depth - players forced into 1 role with no way to make extra characters on a server, meaning if they want to try something else they have to delete their character. The intro is rebel biased. You've destroyed the rpg element of the game. Advancement appears to be static and offers no variation. I dont feel like I'm playing an MMORPG anymore, I feel like I'm playing an online shooter with a basic leveling system added in, which is probably the reason I am so negative about it. I beleive the point and click combat system will be hrte biggest failure, and will be what destroys any large-scale pvp. You cannot keep focused on 1 target when 20 - 40 are swarming around all looking similar, especially if they are moving between one another. This may kill pvp. Oh and the addition of a jump to the game was unnecessary.
I tried to keep it contructive, even if it is very negative
Sorry if it seems like I'm just here to ause an argument - its currently how I feel about it.
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Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.
Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
Surprise. Some disapointment and resentment concerning the loss of some aspects and the attitude concerning the loss of ability to get a 2nd character slot, and the dumbing down of the professions, but willing to give it a shot.
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
Ok, I hate to say it, but I HATE the controls. I know it's just me, I'm too used to the way mine's setup with mouse movement, and automatic typing (I THINK you can change this back, except the mouse movement, but didn't get it right), so I keep stuffing things up all the time.
What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
We'll I'm still undecided. I like some of the new combat aspects, but I really don't like the new leveling system. no longer feels like an RPG to me, more some kind of 3rd person action game. I've some more constructive things to add at the end of the post.
What class did you choose to play?
Officer. wanted to see what it was like, and if i might want to go there instead of Commando (Currently a master Pistols/Master commando).
What do you like the most about NGE?
I don't know if it's just the first station thing (not the bit where it's blowing up, but the next one where you start doign quests), but it did feel a little more alive than galaxies has for a while (more like mustaphar, which has a similar feel for me, but not the other planets for some reason, though this could just be in my imagination).
What do you dislike about NGE?
I did dislike one aspect of combat, and that was having to hit the mouse button each time I wanted to firs. Surely it can be set so you can just HOLD the button down and it'll keep firing???? Also, as I said, the dumbing down of the proffesions and the conversion from RPG to more of an action game with a little RPG in it (to me). The old system of having to learn things, and CHOOSING what you wished to learn is at the heart of every RPG I can remember playing (even if it was just what spell you wanted to learn or something), so it sort of looses somethign for me.
Thanks folks!
OK, now for some of the otehr feedback. I got stuck on the second station (no NOT the falcon . I did the first quest to the asteroid station, came back but it didn't register that i'd done the last section, and at the same time wouldn't let me launch again, so couldn't do anything really (even tried deletind the quests for no luck).
I've got to change the camera angle, needs to raise or lower (not sure till I work out how to do it), to get the crosshair in a better spot. Also with the crosshair, I don't really care, but I know some people like to customise a lot of things, and this is one they might like (like the colour pallete, give thm a few different styles of crosshairs maybe).
Oh, and though I really like the reloading of weapons (can't wait to see the animations), as it makes it a little more imersive (to me). I think it might be nice to have a counter or somethign to KNOW when it's nearly time to reload, and a manual comand to do it. I had one instance of killing somethign, talking to an npc, walking around a bit, then attavking another npc only to have to stop and reload after the first shot. not exactly the smartest thing to do by entering combat with only one bullet in your gun after all .
All I can think of for now.
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Forgot to add, I really dislike not being able to change proffessions without a new character. surely you can make an npc somewhere that lets you delete all your current skills, choose a prefession, and start from zero xp/no skills, but with your character name, aperance and belongings the same (Call it a memory wipe or something)
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
I was a little scared that this might be another nail in the coffin. I was very angry about the CU and left for 6 months. When I came back, I realized I was really only bothered by how buggy it was at first. This has it's bugs, but there seem to be less of them.
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
Whoopieeee!!! got to blow up some boxes, kill some stormies, then run in place for a while. After I FINALLY got past the ramp, I realized exactly how big a change this was.
What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
After I got to Eisley. I started running around doing quests. They were pretty enjoyable. If there were less people doing them they would have been easier. A random noob should find them enjoyable because he won't have to compete for a single mob with 18 other players.
What class did you choose to play?
What class did nearly everyone choose to play. I was, of course, curious about Jedi. I'd gotten one character very close before recreating and was just started on a new character, so Jedi has always been in my sights.
What do you like the most about NGE?
Fast action that is easy to do. You also don't have to sit around for a few minutes to heal.
What do you dislike about NGE?
The inability to change professions. Deleting a hard earned toon should not be the only way. Please work on this aspect as soon as you get the bugs mostly ironed out. (Then you can re-introduce CH and BE, they just belong in the game.)
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What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
Mad, in the fact that we were not informed well ahead of time. The changes that this is putting forth are major, and we were basically given a "2 week warning". For something thats aparently been in development for a year now this is really insulting.
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
Excitied, but then again I want this to succeed just as much as your marketing department. This is after all the game i've chosen to put most of my time into. My initial impression was surprised. I was happy with the voice overs and, once adjusted to the interface and controls, it really worked out for me.
If anything I'd say that the skill window graphics need a complete overall, but then on the flip side the rest of the UI looks much nicer than it did. Once again, the skill window, is TERRIBLE.
What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
At this point I was bugged on the Falcon ramp, and was extreme annoyed. You (Being SOE) have had plenty of time to work things like this out. Bugs are one thing, being completely unable to go anywhere is quite another.
Once I did get out of the falcon ramp, my 1 hour point would have probably been the first space station. Which again, was very well designed and EXTREMELY easy to follow where the quests were leading me to.
What class did you choose to play?
Trader, however I was able to do the initial combat quests as well as any other combat player.
What do you like the most about NGE?
The new quests
What do you dislike about NGE?
Lack of Collision detection between bullet projectiles
Lack of Collision detection between player and world objects
Lack of Collision detection between player and other players
Lack of guidance once on the main planet
Profession skill windows graphics and overall design
The inability to do more than one thing. For example I know have a trader, who has a quest to make items with hides, but not being able to become a hide harvesting profession I am unable to do this myself. In addition, I now have a trader who will be forever at level 1.
What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
Very excited and enjoing it. Gotta love the quests. Controls could be figured out real easy.
What class did you choose to play?
Commando
What do you like the most about NGE?
I like how a lot of things work with a single click, and don't always have to use radial or even double click. Much less confirmation windows too, makes gameplay that much faster.
This is exactly the way I envisioned a couple of moths back, how xp and money should be earned: by doing quests. Obvioulsy the type of missions comes from a limited pool that we had before. But now they are strung up on a storyline, which gives you a much deeper sense of immersion. Also, since they alternate and are always put into varying context, they feel much less repetitive than just pulling the same missions from terms all the time.
Additionally, Han's and C3PO's voiceovers contribute immensly to the immersion factor. Make more of those voiceovers for other questgivers too.
What do you dislike about NGE?
Lag. Since the combat action is so much snappier and fast paced, lag can become much more disturbing than it used to be.
You cannot change professions in mid-game, once you decide on one, you are stuck with it. Since players accumulate wealth and possions during their career, but will probably like to change their professions with time, they will be unwilling to part with them and create a new character from scratch. I forsee this being very annoying issue in the future.
Only being able to do Ord Mantel once, in addition to being stuck with one profession. I'd want the possibility to change profession and do the Ord Mantel quests over again, without loosing my house and all my ships, vehicles, weapons etc, even if I could only access them after Ord Mantel.
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Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.
Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
What class did you choose to play?
What do you like the most about NGE?
What do you dislike about NGE?
Thanks folks!
1. My feelings when it was first announced were profoundly mixed, I dislike the fact that this was kept nearly in secret for so long... how do we know you're not already working on yet another "upgrade" to be announced 8 months down the road, that will once again sweep the rug from under us? How can we have good communication with the devs when they apparently are not even allowed to say what they might be working on?
2. It was very scary... suddenly having to play the game with a totally new keymap, and the UI looks too much like straight out of a console game (which ironically enough, I'm sure SWG will be soon).
3. Well I didn't even get to spend an hour, due to the full TC servers, etc. I guess the overall feeling is one of wanting to like it, but resenting the fact that this is being forced on us with such short notice.
4. Jedi
5. Eliminating forced PVP and item decay. They were both annoying as heck, and only made the game more frustrating and less fun.
6. I dislike not being able to change professions and/or have a hybrid template, it removes a lot of what made the original game full of possibilities. Having a lot of Jedi specials removed is also a bad idea, I think, much of what was removed included some of the most fun skills in the whole game... I wouldn't mind if all Jedi templates were 90% equal, but allowed at least a little bit of "specialization" such as was possible when choosing MLS/Defender/Enhancer/Healer/Powers. Making all Jedi 100% the same is going to get very boring in the long run, for all players alike. Probably the same could be said of other professions, but Jedi were always the coolest element of SW for us fans.
1. my feelings when i heard this was gonna happen were mixed, i never liked fps
2. bug bug and more bug.
3. after playing an hour i thought well my friends 2 year old kid coul play this
4. officer
5. nothing
6. everything
suggestion, make some servers with the old coding insted of making everybody play a game that is made for 2 year olds. theres no challenge in the game, no tactics needed in anyway as long as its PvE, pvp god luck hitting your target if he moves around.
ill give you a piece of advise. Mystic who runs another mmorg(dark age of camelot) tryed to do something like your doing, they wanted to change the game totaly as SoE and LA, leading to 2 things first they lost 75% of the playerbase, 2nd they made new servers with old coding and they are full every single day, cus they found out they were wrong. you wanna fix the game i cheer to that, no cu is needed tone down some of the professions, fix the bugs. oh and another thing, pvp in dark ahe of camelot you could be in a fight with 400 players and have next to no lag, unlike swg where you can barely have 50-100 peeps before you have lag problems. and also the GCW died cus theres no rewards and no ranking.
E-Auka / E-Type Focht Imperial Bria.
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-I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
- First reaction was anger because I worked very hard to get my jedi, second was curiosity of course.
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
- Wow....now this is Star Wars
What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
- I didn't get past the Falcon but up to that point I had mixed feelings. I missed the original system but I had fun with the point and shoot system as well. I felt that the movement could be more fluid and I was unable to find a way to have the camera directly behind me. I was not a fan of the way that the skill tree looked. It looked very cheap.
What class did you choose to play?
- Spy
What do you like the most about NGE?
- I enjoyed the Star Wars feel and the voice overs. Reminded me of the only other game that I have ever played with the loyalty that I have for this one...Jedi Academy
What do you dislike about NGE?
- It frustrates me that I worked very hard to have a jedi character and now everyone can. I get frustrated with the rule changes and things that were once very valuble are now not as valuble.
* What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced? Wasn't very happy, felt like you were dumbing down the game too much and cutting a lot out, when the complexity was one of the things that I liked so much.
* What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game? Cool Voiceover, and I liked the large hanger, and the cluttered lived in look of the hanger.
* What were your feelings after you played for a hour? (After a day of frustration of not getting past the falcon's ramp) It wasn't as bad as I thought it was, instead of elimanting a lot of things, it seems some proffessions were combined, keeping the best of each. I like the new quest system, it leads you thru leveling and provides a storyline to follow, with clear goals besides just leveling up. Also the quest rewards are nice, nice not have to spend hours killing the same things over and over again hoping to get something useful. Not so sure about the new combat system, have only fought single targets, not sure how a big fight with lots of things attacking would work, also conserned about hitting moving targets.
* What class did you choose to play? Medic
* What do you like the most about NGE? The new quest system, the voiceovers, useful quest rewards and cutscenes.
* What do you dislike about NGE? The new Class system. There doesn't seem to be a way to cusomize your proffession, so everyone who has the same amount of skill tree is the same as you except for equipment, and most likely eveyone will have close to the same equipment eventualy.
What I would love to see is a way to have at least some choice in leveling up. A choice of new skills, or choosing what stat to advance, as a medic maybe I could get all the basic skills, but be able to specialize in a certain area.
Over all I like a lot of the changes, but I'm not sure yet about the combat or the class based system, I see merit in it, but would like the class system to be a bit more customizable.
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced? Horrified at the manner it was introduced to us in. No warning at all - felt like it was the hook, line and sinker for us poor saps to buy ToOW for you all to just introduce yet ANOTHER HUGE game change just 6.25 months after the original CU was released. Immediately upset that CH and BE are going to be removed with this change and of course "How many friends are going to leave this time around and will I choose to really follow them this time".
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game? Get me out of this tutorial! (Got stuck on the Falcon)
What were your feelings after you played for a hour? Combat Speed is fantastic, UI looks great but overall I was bored very quickly. Questing gets boring when you have to continuously return to the NPC's that gave you the quest.
What class did you choose to play? Jedi on one account and Trader on another
What do you like the most about NGE? Combat Speed, UI
What do you dislike about NGE? Jerky movement, Targeting, Locked Profession, Off Center Screen (just to name a few)
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
Disbelief. Problems with comprehension why ... Fear that all I love about the SWG, its complexity, flexibility and amazingly intricate game engine is going away. FPSish combat didnt really scare me, but the influence of class system and oversimplyfying like weapon stats did bother me much.
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
My heart sank. Combat aint that bad and thats no problem for me, but freshly introduced linearity, little variety on stats on weapons are confirming my worst fears.
What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
Pretty similar. Experience is linear, definitely more edible for people who enjoy questing and linear progress, but so far I havent seen anything that would convince me that crafting will be still viable and there will be something more in this game besides questing and leveling.... so basically it's not solving the underlying problems SWG always had.
What class did you choose to play?
I tried officer, spy and jedi and got stuck many times in tutorial - I got to play jedi as this character went thru the tutorial.
What do you like the most about NGE?
So far, not much. If I'd care for quests Id say that quest based progress is quite decent.
What do you dislike about NGE?
Stats on weapons, linearity, dumbing down the best parts of SWG.
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Since our team has been working very hard and long hours on NGE I would like to do something special for them. Can you please post CONSTRUCTIVELY what your likes and dislikes are regarding NGE.
Trolls please don't ruin this thread there are countless other threads for you to go do your dirty work in.
What were your feelings regarding NGE when it was first announced?
Why did you revamp Squad leader and Ranger when your about to completely redo the professions?
What were your feelings when you immeadiately entered the game?
Still trying to do this.
What were your feelings after you played for a hour?
See second answer.
What class did you choose to play?
Wondering if anyone will pick something other than Jedi and why are folks who specifically waited on going glowy (such as myself) getting penalised for not already having a jedi and alt char already setup on the servers. I've gone to alot of trouble to avoid going glowy to quickly so I can experience the rest of the game first, this CU is a slap in the face for waiting instead of using all the walkthroughs and going straight to glowy.
What do you like the most about NGE?
Yet to be impressed.
What do you dislike about NGE?
The rigidity of the professions, No more alts to jedi chars for those that don't already have one, Little made of how these changes affect the badges already earned and what if anything will happen to badges, The skill structure of MxO was one of the reasons I flicked to SWG, I wanted away from it, now it looks like SWG is trying to get a similar skill tree system, Might end up back at MxO or try out a different MMO altogether. Just cos SOE bought MxO doesn't mean all the other games need to clone it, it was losing players at the time for a reason. Wonder if they've fixed the atlas/hardline bug yet.......
Well, after getting to play for a bit I loved everything but the chat setup. I fixed some of the problems by going to Options>Keymap>Chat tab. I rebinded everything and for mail, its in the ALL tab I believe. But I wish I could make other tabs in chat instead all convos under one tab. I will give more input after some serious testing and what not and I will just edit this box from time to time.
Likes:
LOVED the opening screen dispite the ramp and medic bug. I loved being thrown into battle to fend off the imps so Han can help us get outta there. Wish we could actually go on the station from time to time.
Dislikes:
Wish it showed other professions and showed my char instead of Han Solo or Leia
Chat setup but some can be remedied by rebinding keys in options.
C3-po and Han's voice repeating over and over while I was stuck on the ramp. Should be said maybe 3 times then have it on a cutoff timer. It would reduce lag.
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. I did the first quest to the asteroid station, came back but it didn't register that i'd done the last section, and at the same time wouldn't let me launch again, so couldn't do anything really (even tried deletind the quests for no luck).
