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Just the facts (Compiled from the boards) - updated
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Segolas
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This is the profession list from a recent Jedi (NGrey).  Going with my theory (see the original cold hard facts thread) it works like this:

Mastered Artisan - non FS profession
Mastered Weaponsmith - non FS profession
Mastered Entertainer (Holo 1, jedi) - 1st FS profession
Mastered Medic - non FS profession
Mastered Combat Medic (Holo 2, jedi) - 2nd FS profession
Mastered Musician (Holo 3, sith) - 3rd FS profession
Mastered Marksman - 5th FS profession (the one he didn't get a clue on)
Mastered Command (Holo 4, jedi) - 4th FS profession

This guy was very lucky because in the process of finishing his final clued profession (Commando), he also tripped the 5th and final profession he was not going to get a clue on... Marskman.  This furthur proves the cold hard facts theory I wrote up as well. Which are:

- You can receive up to 4 holocron clues assuming you have not already mastered some of your FSCS professions along the way. 

- From the point you receive the silent message, there is in fact only one profession left out there that you have to master to unlock your FSCS.  So receiving the silent holo is definitly a good thing for you lucky few.  It's just a matter of finding the right final profession (1 in 28 or 29 odds I believe after you subtract Jedi, your 4 holo professions, and possibly Politician for us Veteran characters).

- The picks of what your FSCS professions have to be appears to be completly random.  Good luck finding any pattern to this.

- There were a few people like Monika that unlocked their profession by gaining xp.  This was because they already qualifed for their FSCS when yflipped the Jedi profession on on Friday, November 7th.  Basically the next thing they did XP related gained them their slot.  (Kind of like many of us suddenly qualifying for Politician when we did something XP related when they turned the Politician profession on).

- We have reportedly had a neutral now unlock their FSCS.  Factions along with residence, POIs visited, Badges, Theme Parks, and several other things play little to nothing in opening your FSCS.

(PS  Correspondents:  I would rather you sticky this over and let my old "Cold Hard Facts" thread fall off.)

Best,

11-20-2003 08:15 AM  

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Logic!  Thank you.  Thank you very much. 

You are an oasis of intelligence in an otherwise barren desert of ignorance.

11-20-2003 08:19 AM  

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The guy didn't even have proof and you're using it as fact?

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11-20-2003 08:21 AM  

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Ummm where the heck did you get 5th profession from?

 

He mastered that one to get commando , it could have had nothing to do with FSS.

11-20-2003 08:22 AM  

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Great post, I wish you would have posted it 5 minutes ago.

Still there is one additional thing. Though it's unlikely, it's still possible that there is a list of accomplishments from which a few are drawn for everyone. So you might be able to get unlock your FSCS without joining a faction but the next guy is supposed to become a colonel for example. I don't believe that's true, all systems in this game are kept simple. But it's not completely impossible. Just wanted to add that.

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11-20-2003 08:23 AM  

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>>The guy didn't even have proof and you're using it as fact?

 

I used his professions as an example.  Even if he doesn't give proof (which he says he will), there are several others (including you, Elvandar) that fall into the "4 holos + 1" theory without unproving it.  It has yet to be unproven.  We can only hope that people post with truth that unlocking their FSCS.  Assuming they aren't only opens the "What if" question to everything and anything.  I doubt that many people would be lieing or trying to be deceitful though.

PS  On an unrelated note Elvandar:  It cracks me up that you run around Lok power leveling or whatever and take zero time to socialize, flat out ignoring people talking to you in person.  Yet you remain searchable and with a Jedi title on.  That's just plain rude to me.   At least have the manners to say "Im sorry, I really don't have time to talk right now."

11-20-2003 08:33 AM  

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>>>Ummm where the heck did you get 5th profession from?  He mastered that one to get commando , it could have had nothing to do with FSS.

Yes it did.  First understand the Holos don't think like we do.  ie Its not going to tell you Marksman and not tell your Commando just because you need Marskman to get Commando when giving you a holo clue.  Of his 5 professions, the holos (obviously randomly as well) pick 4 of them to give him clues on.  While pursueing his 4th holo profession (Commando), he tripped his 5th FSCS profession (Marksman).  With me now?  =)

 

11-20-2003 08:38 AM  

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It really does seem more and more likely that it's just a matter of 5 professions.  And assuming people are telling the truth (a truly dangerous thing here!) it can be any 5.  On the one hand I am disgusted by the implementation.  On the other, at least I know I have a chnce at it .

-Ani

11-20-2003 08:38 AM  

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Segolas wrote:

PS  On an unrelated note Elvandar:  It cracks me up that you run around Lok power leveling or whatever and take zero time to socialize, flat out ignoring people talking to you in person.  Yet you remain searchable and with a Jedi title on.  That's just plain rude to me.   At least have the manners to say "Im sorry, I really don't have time to talk right now."




If you were a Jedi and people knew who you were, you would not think this. I have been more than generous to the people who send me tells and emails with responses. It's just simply impossible to respond to everyone because of the sheer amount of spam you receive.

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11-20-2003 08:45 AM  

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Segolas, there is still a possibility that one of his first mastered non-holo professions was his "5th" profession. Maybe the holo tells you 4 professions from your 5, even if you got one already. Or has that also already been disproven? (with a silent holocron after 3 masters and another profession to unlock for example.)

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11-20-2003 08:47 AM  

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...and the reason it is Marksman and not any of the other ones is because once he did the third holo profession, it would of gone silent than.  The key is that once your 4 professions into your FSCS, you will no longer receive a clue... the holo will go silent.  So in order for him to have gotten his 4th holo clue for Commando, there would had to have still been a 5th "silent" profession unmastered.... being Marskman.

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>>>If you were a Jedi and people knew who you were, you would not think this. I have been more than generous to the people who send me tells and emails with responses. It's just simply impossible to respond to everyone because of the sheer amount of spam you receive.

 

I can understand and respect this.  Perhap turn uncheck your "Mark my character searchable" box and remove your title in addition to having afk on?  =)  I didn't expect a response to my tells, but I was shocked when you ignored me in person with no one else around.  (sniffle) 

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Elvandar01 wrote:
The guy didn't even have proof and you're using it as fact?


The original poster presented a logically consistent theoretical argument based on the claims of alleged FSCS characters, who, for the most part, have submitted screenshots.  You incorrectly inserted the word "fact" into your comment.  There is a difference between facts and theory.  The poster understands this.  You, by your very interpretation of the "facts" within my original post, do not.
11-20-2003 08:51 AM  

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Thanks for the great summary Segolas, but I think from the boards most people would prefer hearsay and speculation over hard facts and logic.

In your next update post, please include some sort of hairbrained theory using a) Apprentice xp, b) faction, c) eye color, d) IP address.

Thanks!

11-20-2003 08:54 AM  

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<<...and the reason it is Marksman and not any of the other ones is because once he did the third holo profession, it would of gone silent than.  The key is that once your 4 professions into your FSCS, you will no longer receive a clue... the holo will go silent.  So in order for him to have gotten his 4th holo clue for Commando, there would had to have still been a 5th "silent" profession unmastered.... being Marskman.>>

...and how do we know holos go silent after your 4 professions into your FSCS?  Because tons of people have had holos go silent on them after using only 1, 2, or 3 (and no more then 4), but none have unlocked a FSCS on their final holo profession alone.

11-20-2003 08:55 AM  

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