Thanks for the reply, Segolas. I still have a question though... can you provide any evidence (based on the example we have) that the hidden profession is not predetermined? Just because we always get four clues and never get a fifth doesn't mean anything

Thanks! I hope you're right!

~ John

Im not sure I understand the question, but I believe the professions are predetermined, the holo clues are not.  If you master 4 of your 5 randomly (pre determined?) professions, regardless of which ones you master, you will not get a clue for the 5th. 

This leads me to believe the professions are determined, but how you master them determines how you receive the clues.

Ok its a small difference but an important one.

Here are the two possibilities based on common theory so far:

The classes ARE pre-determined BUT the halos reveal a class from the entire pool of FIVE until one is left then they go silent (they say nothing at all if you have already obtained FSCS). This gives the possibility of manipulation of the 'hints' by not mastering the basics and mastering as many elites PRIOR to use of holocrons so the 'hidden' fifth has a higher probability of being a basic class.

or

The classes ARE pre-determined and the halos will reveal a class from a pool of FOUR never revealing a PRE-DETERMINED 'hidden' profession. This would mean it wouldnt matter what you do prior to using the holocrons. There is nothing you can do to influence which one the 'hidden' one will be and you might as well master as many of the basics as possible perhaps limiting the number of holocrons you need to use if you happen to hit the right ones.

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In an early post someone asked this in a round about way.  Is the 5th prof. predetermined or does mastering the 4th trigger a selection process to pick the 5ht?

Easy answer is, no one knows.  If you are incredibly lucky then the 5th is one that you have already mastered on your way to the other 4 .

Any of the non holo professions could have been his 5th.  There's no evidence to support it being marksman.

>>Any of the non holo professions could have been his 5th.  There's no evidence to support it being marksman.

There certainly is, please read folow up posts explaining this

Segolas: It's becoming increasing clear that you don't understand what WE'RE talking about.

Your "theory" is based upon knowledge which is unprovable: You claim that the professions revealed by the Holocron are flexible. This means that of your five needed professions, that if you had mastered one of said professions that the Holocron would always reveal the other four.

We don't know if the Holocron pre-chooses one profession of the five to keep secret, regardless of what you've already mastered. Likewise we don't know if you've already got four of your five needed professions that the Holocron decides to always keep the remaining profession secret.

We don't even know for sure if the next profession isn't dynamically picked when you complete the first one etc etc!

I'd love to believe you're right, but you're overlooking a huge flaw in your idea

>>>Segolas: It's becoming increasing clear that you don't understand what WE'RE talking about.

Not to be rude, but I think you're the only confused one here Neutral.  There is nothing revelvant in your posts that I have not already covered in this thread.

>>>We don't know if the Holocron pre-chooses one profession of the five to keep secret, regardless of what you've already mastered. Likewise we don't know if you've already got four of your five needed professions that the Holocron decides to always keep the remaining profession secret.

Neutral, yes we do.  Facts lie in consistency and what is consistently reported is this: 

>>We don't know if the Holocron pre-chooses one profession of the five to keep secret, regardless of what you've already mastered

If this was the case, then at least some of the 100+ people that have unlocked a FSCS would be unlocking it on their final holo.  Someone somewhere would of accidntally tripped their hidden profession before finishing their holo professions and then unlocked their FSCS on their holo profession.  However, this has NEVER happened.  You with me?  NEVER.

>>>Likewise we don't know if you've already got four of your five needed professions that the Holocron decides to always keep the remaining profession secret

But we do, because everyone that has reported opening a FSCS has at least Mastered one other profession while doing their final holo profession or after their holos had gone silent.  Additionally, no one has ever had holos go silent without mastering at least 4 professions or doing at least 4 holo professions.

The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding here is the consistent data that matches this that we are getting back from the FSCS unlocking people.  Search the threads yourself if you like.

Best,

>>>Matatodos posts

....makes absolutly no sense.  Please reread the thread and try again.  I have repeatedly stated and supported my theory and it's hardly based on speculation.  I guess I will just have to accept that some people can not comprehend simple theories based on consistent facts no matter how many ways I try to explain it to them.