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Fetei wrote:

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EmeraldBlade wrote:

what about Monika, the first jedi.  her story disproves your post.  she never unlocked when she trained her last proffesion. she unlocked when she killed a picket.

 

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because the "force sensitive bunch of code" got implemented that day....yes fan-boy..soe lied about it being already in the game

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This theory could certainly explain that Jedi who was told to Master BH as holo 4, but along the way mastered Marksman and Scout and then unlocked.

If her last 3 prof choices of the 6 were BH, Marksman, and Scout she would have unlocked with Marksman and Scout as prof 4 and 5 out of 6.

I wonder if the IQ testing these days is on the same scale. Mine was 145 out of 200.

I'll test the 30 profession theory for you guys as I only have 20 more to go

-Mastered -

Pre Holos 
01. Scout
02. Creature Handler
03. Ranger (played this way the first four or five months)

Holos
04. Medic (holo 1)
05. Musician (holo 2)
06. Commando (holo 3)
07. Marksman (did that to open Commando)

(holo 4) silent - (Can I sell that one its still in my inventory?)

Post Holos
08. Brawler
09. Artisan
10. Chef
11. Entertainer

Asur Skywaver - AHAZI server - May the force be with you cause' it sure ain't with me :-)

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Greeblesnort wrote:
I may disprove your theory, but I'm not entirely sure.

Currently on 16th profession (9th after silent holo). The two holo professions before going silent were TKM and Smuggler. Since then, I've done:
Entertainer
Dancer (in your list)
Commando (in your list)
Artisan
Brawler
Medic
Doctor
Architect (in your list)
Swordsman

currently working Fencer.

So, since going silent, I've done three of the professions in your list and no slot. Perhaps I'm not understanding.

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The list was the list for that particular person and would be totally different for you. You list could be

CM, CH, BH, Medic,WS, SL

Everyone has a different list.

Also that person was told his list by a CSR making holo useless to him and unlocking after master the last one he didn't master before on the list.

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Jasek wrote:

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Fetei wrote:
explain how some people unlock on prof 32 then?

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Because you are taking their word for it?  Please refer to my sig, sir.

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If we could prove this, I wonder if there would be any legal ramification. SOE employees divulging specific information only to friends. I doubt it This is a friggin game and not worthy of even worrying about that much.

Although I do hope he gets fired for not telling everyone else their list.

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EmeraldBlade wrote:

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Fetei wrote:

dont call me a fanboy, you ... er... starwarskidgeek...

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starwars geek? i only play this game because it's fun..not because i adore starwars like some other people

and to add something..all your posts in this thread radiate stupidity

Everyone close your browsers now! The quarks of stupidity are radiating from this page!

What a great thread.  A guy has a SS of something and says its true, believe as you wish.

A bunch of people call BS on him he is lying he is not god its hearsay.

Another bunch of people either cannot read or are just flat dumb and think that those 6 professions apply to everyone and they mastered all 6 so that disproves the formula.

Another bunch of people somehow thinks this formula should tell them what they personally need to master.

This is the best thread I have seen it has it all!  It really shows the disparity of people who post on these boards.

I believe it.  I was a steadfast believer in 4+1 and in one thread I backed off it a bit and said at most it is 5/6 (4 +1/2 whatever you want to call it).  I never believed that the silent profession would always be silent, but that holocrons went silent when you were 1 profession away from unlocking.  The problem with 5/10 was that the average person would unlock on like their 8th profession and to get in the 20+ club was impossible, and even 5/7 just sounded to easy.

I do not have time now at work I want to be able to leave on time and get through most of Musician, but I am going to run some numbers to determine when a player is likely to unlock their slot if they started from scratch and did 4 holo-professions. 

Under 4+1 the result was a straight line each remaining profession had a 1/28 chance from that moment on to unlock, so the average person would unlock on profession 18 from that point.  It sounded a bit high but with a good handful in the 20+ club it sounded right.

Under 4+1/2, I believe it will be more of a bell curve, but a fairly flat bell curve.  The thing I really want to know is starting at profession 4 being mastered at what point will that player have an accumulated 50% or greater chance of unlocking.  My guess is around profession 12.  KEEP IN MIND that that is my GUESS as to the AVERAGE chance of a person who has mastered EXACTLY 4 professions, all holocron professions, and then has their 5th holo obviously go silent.  If YOU master 20 professions at random you might still get a holocron message!  I am just thinking hypothetically not applying to any actual case.

- Broog

If the list is random, how did the CSR get that list to his friend?

If the list is easily obtained by a CSR, then the list is easily hacked. I haven't heard of any hacker claiming they found the hacked list.

I heard a lot of "my best friend sister brother mother-in-law step-son is the director of marketing for SOE and the secret recipes are" . . . None of those rumors pan out.

If the recipe is to master 5 out of 6 chosen professions, then there would had been some players who had unlocked without mastering their holocron professions. So far, there had been only one such claim (the holo-BH, but mastered only scout & marksman claim). Every other unlocks (about 150 posts that I had read) had mastered all their holocron professions.

Again, this doesn't help anybody since they can't obtain their list anyway unless they have insider info.

Also, it doesn't negate the pattern theorist. Don't confuse "random" with "predictable". The theory is very straightforward, SWG is a software which use an algorithm to generate these lists. Decipher the algorithm and you can predict the list. If SWG use Microsoft Visual C random algorithm rand() (I personally believe they're too time-constraint to write their own), half the battle is won. Now we just have to figure out the seeding method. Again, I personally believe SOE is too time-constraint to do anything more difficult than use stime (time since Jan 01, 1970 in second) as the seed. So now, all you need to do is find someone who remember exactly what time they create their character and get their list. Use trial and error to get the internal numbering for the professions which fit all unlocks and locked and you'll have yourself the pattern to obtain the magic list.

If you or your friend really have inside info, get them to divulge which pseudo-random algorithm is used, which seeding method is used, and what's the internal numbering are. If those leaks, then I would be utterly overjoyed.

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LukeMarswalker wrote:

I posted this in another thread already but i think it is worthy of its own.

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The "CSR" gave him his list of professions to choose from to unlock.

They are as follows (Master 5 of the following 6 to unlock):
Commando Marksman Dancer Carbineer Rifleman Architect

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Oba-Quan-Makiza wrote:



I have mastered 4 of those 6, and I had mastered CH before my first holo as well.. Since, I have mastered 10 or so others. I am on Rifleman now to complete 5 of those 6 and see what happens.

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Oba-Quan-Makiza gets the "I didn't comprehend the post award" nomination.

Let's keep going until we have a full set of nominees and see who's most misunderstood.