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    Quote Originally Posted by rommelrommel View Post
    Your friend doesn't ask for donations to pay the rent either.
    Interesting comment from a player who has not financially contributed. I'm just saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrayone View Post
    Interesting comment from a player who has not financially contributed. I'm just saying...

    sadly people act this way , I would just ignore them because games'gamers have changed alot from back in the day they seem to want everything for free and they want everything there way.....

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    PS: MY text may read anger but i'm not angry as much as I'm frustrated.

    PPS: Oldgrayone, I ADORE your signature picture of Chewie's giant paw on P. Leia's booby, their expressions are priceless! (BTW, I have contributed to this project, even to Xavia's medical bills, only I asked to be deleted due to some people harassing me and so they instead "banned" me and now I have to start over, so u really can't truly know who has or has not contributed on here by the appearance or lack of gold bars below their avatars. Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrayone View Post
    Interesting comment from a player who has not financially contributed. I'm just saying...
    And anyways, feel free to pick and choose what you quote obviously, but I was mostly agreeing with the decisions overall, just pointing out that people are entitled to their opinions about it. While the devs obviously run the show it's not as if the player/support base has absolutely no stake in what's happening. And, as the project relies on donations the devs don't operate in a vaccum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkcrystal View Post
    sadly people act this way , I would just ignore them because games'gamers have changed alot from back in the day they seem to want everything for free and they want everything there way.....
    And here's your little tag-along (who ironically hasn't made a contribution either unless he knows how to send money without getting credit for it)

    How much money you donate doesn't make your ideas any better, how long ago you registered doesn't make your ideas any better, how many posts you make doesn't make your ideas any better. A few of those might speak to your committment but NONE of them should preclude anyone from expressing an opinion in a civil way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrayone View Post
    Interesting comment from a player who has not financially contributed. I'm just saying...
    Not everyone feels the need to take credit for their donations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rommelrommel View Post
    Not everyone feels the need to take credit for their donations.
    Problem is you cant make an anonymous donation, its broken. Unless someone fixed it in the meantime, which i very much doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrayone View Post
    Interesting comment from a player who has not financially contributed. I'm just saying...
    You know...if you were to look at my stats you would say the same thing to me...and you would be wrong since I would point you to my wife's account where the gold bars show up.

    You know that whole "assume" thing?
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    I'm a little late to this post and would like to thank the devs for how they followed through. I understand this isn't a finished server and what not, I read the rules and felt some things needed to be posted in public to test my concerns for rules being selectively enforced. The situation was a repeated occurance and I was truly curious to see what would happen this time , I am glad it didn't turn out to be a situation where everyone feels they are allowed to exploit anytime and anywhere

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    Leave it to SWGemu to change rules after their friends get caught exploiting.

    Very good and unbiased I see. Not to mention the reduction in bans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostwain View Post
    Leave it to SWGemu to change rules after their friends get caught exploiting.

    Very good and unbiased I see. Not to mention the reduction in bans.

    "Oh you were caught cheating? Here's a new character."
    Hasn't it always been like this? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostwain View Post
    Leave it to SWGemu to change rules after their friends get caught exploiting.

    Very good and unbiased I see. Not to mention the reduction in bans.

    "Oh you were caught cheating? Here's a new character."
    surprised this didnt get locked ...

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    Two thumbs up and a big toe or two. This is actually a stroke of brilliance by the Dev team.

    Info to fix game breaking exploits > All possible in game gains that can be made on an ALPHA version of a server.

    The Devs have proven they will take action but as far as the exploiters being out and about again...well they did find a game breaker. Be thankful they found it in Alpha and personally if they find all the big breakers now they are only saving time in the grand scheme.

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    All I can say is if u get 100% mitigation and u can't take dmg isn't game breaking I don't kno what the **** is...

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    FYI being a paid beta tester before, and a tester, now a game designer, what the Devs did here was fair, I know we as paid testers in most AAA companys we look to exploit, the reason is so we can find them before the player does so they can be fixed, the devs hopefully have people doing this, and its good they have found one during Alpha stage because that is the time to find an exploit.

    If your unsure what an exploit is most of the time, depending on the company but its anything that is not intended by the devs and the player will take unfair advantage over , so if you think its wrong, guess what it is, so bug or not log off get rid of it. I have been in games where I would not die in PVP due to a bug and noticed hey i'm bugged and logged, was not this game it was another, but some people would of stayed on, which does the game no justice they also do not report that stuff because they like the advantage not saying everyone is that way, but I seen my fair share of people do this ...

    Anyways my advice to the Devs is to have more testers looking for exploits , hacks etc that they do not want on there servers if possible. I know they work for free so maybe finding some players they may wanna do this..

    Thats my 2 cents on this subject.

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    On Veers Elite Server, my Chef has +125 Food Experimentation, or is a 12 pt. Chef due to AAs and CAs. I made 2 runs of Flameout on this server that matched the same exact stats on the TC NOVA server.

    26 FIll
    77% Damage Reduction
    4 Attacks (3 attacks on TC NOVA w/o any extra chef points)

    I sold some on my vendor...
    Then the next day when retrieving the 2nd run (it takes a ton of component to make very little amounts) the system message across my screen read: "Crate is broken contact Kyle if you are getting this message". (I did via i/g email)
    I panicked, checked my vendors and every single crate of flameout (and single dose of it) were defunct and void of serial numbers and stats that only the day before were there.

    So, all my time, effort, and product sold and bought, and on vendor are destroyed as a result to a glitch? None of my product was an exploit or a bug. In fact, I only got the FILL down to 26 from like 62 due to the Bio-additives attending to FILL. If I were to have used a Heavy additives for NUTRITION, I would have had a higher FILL rate while having a slightly higher Damage reduction. My TC Nova Flameout is the same stuff yet it was never an exploit or bug.

    I do understand that you are talking about a 100% mitigation and I guess what I want to know is, does this include the Flameout I made? If not, why is my supply all destroyed? If so, then when will I gain the confidence to continue providing foods as a 12pt Chef again. Do I need to worry that anything I make that is exceptional will be pulled and destroyed? This really bites if you've put in the hours and efforts to make the top-of-the-line foods to compete with a frog whose consumables should be considered exploits. My sysnsteak can't even begin to compete with Veers Elite's frog synsteak.

    I know this is part of the "testing" process, but I produced this same Flameout on TC NOVA before it broke down and not a word was said about it. Then I go onto a server to help out by being a crafter and hopefully make the server a tad more popular by actually providing products to buy and I feel utterly astonished that my goods were made null n void.

    What was wrong with MY flameout? Am I going to have other foods I make taken away also? Why even bother anymore? SoE did the same thing to us but at least they gave us the heads' up.

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