Publish 6: AI Strikes Back

[Bumbi]

Reading all the sweet updates with a big smile on my face until 6 lines from the bottom - BAAM! "Color codes are now filtered out of item names during crafting and when vendors/bazaar sends in game mails".

My entire business gone. Did not expect that. Happy days.

Anyone interested in buying 3000 colour-tagged pieces of clothing and padded armor?

[Meano Darkstar]

Ok I am a forum newbie but here goes - does the Prima Official Strategy Guide count as evidence? It lists all the weapons and shows the Tusken rifle as kinetic. Can provide a picture of the listing if that helps.

[CDMan477]

Ok I am a forum newbie but here goes - does the Prima Official Strategy Guide count as evidence? It lists all the weapons and shows the Tusken rifle as kinetic. Can provide a picture of the listing if that helps.

Heh, I've got that guide and a lot of the stats in there are horribly inaccurate. The guide obviously represents info before the game even launched, let alone 14.1. I'm gonna say no.

[ljay1973]

Great job as always Dev Team!
Its only when you see a list written like this that you realise just how many little quests there were in SWG

I'm more sad that Tusken Rifles when crafted now are energy weapons. They were kinetic. That's why they added the one kinetic weapon to the class missing one a few months after live started. Because every profession had one but the one, now rifleman are left out in the cold because the tusken can't be proven to have kinetic.


Someone needs to do some digging..

Maybe that someone could be you??
Seriously, you wont find evidence that Tuskens were Kinetic at 14.1 because they were energy damage. As much as it would be nice to have a kinetic rifle available, it was just not the case.
A while back I looked into this pretty thoroughly, found plenty of evidence of pre-14.1 energy tuskens, none of kinetic versions
The Tusken King Rifle.... thats a different matter!

i thought that only applied to in game mails from the bazaar and vendor were no longer in color.

nope, all colouring is removed from item names now. Annoying, but this is how it was at 14.1 so has to be in here.
The reasons SOE removed this ability in the first place stand out as evidence that the old dev team (or at least members of it) valued the subs money of idiots more than others! A small amount of cerebrally challenged people were fooled into thinking crafted items were rare loot because the crafter gave them a yellow name. Sounds more like a tax on stupidity to me. :P

[Blackhearted]

I'm more sad that Tusken Rifles when crafted now are energy weapons. They were kinetic. That's why they added the one kinetic weapon to the class missing one a few months after live started. Because every profession had one but the one, now rifleman are left out in the cold because the tusken can't be proven to have kinetic.


Someone needs to do some digging..

youre right! rifleman is such a gimped, underpowered class that it needs to have every damage type available to be viable in PVE or PVP.

speaking of underpowered classes: can we make scythes stun damage, since swords doesnt have a stun damage weapon?
...and while were at it, how about some stun dmg AP3 VKs?

[fear_town]

youre right! rifleman is such a gimped, underpowered class that it needs to have every damage type available to be viable in PVE or PVP.

speaking of underpowered classes: can we make scythes stun damage, since swords doesnt have a stun damage weapon?
...and while were at it, how about some stun dmg AP3 VKs?

Lest not go projecting your hopes onto my words mate. I'm not saying every class needs access to every type of damage. I was quite simply stating that that was the reason SOE Live devs added the one kinetic weapon to the one class a few months after live came out. I cannot recall what class or weapon it was. It's a memory. I could be wrong.

Shocker.

[cradossk]

Lest not go projecting your hopes onto my words mate. I'm not saying every class needs access to every type of damage. I was quite simply stating that that was the reason SOE Live devs added the one kinetic weapon to the one class a few months after live came out. I cannot recall what class or weapon it was. It's a memory. I could be wrong.

Shocker.

You are wrong.

[fear_town]

You are wrong.

And your post was pointless as others have already took the time to chime in that I was. Add to the top the fact that I pretty much straight up said I was likely wrong. Let's just agree that you are an ******* and move along shall we.

[ForceFielding]

Lest not go projecting your hopes onto my words mate. I'm not saying every class needs access to every type of damage. I was quite simply stating that that was the reason SOE Live devs added the one kinetic weapon to the one class a few months after live came out. I cannot recall what class or weapon it was. It's a memory. I could be wrong.

Shocker.

The Berserker Rifle was kinetic

[Kosta]

The Berserker Rifle was kinetic

The Berserker Rifle was heat pre-cu.

https://www.swgemu.com/archive/scrapb...fault_166.html

[resurection1]

I'm more sad that Tusken Rifles when crafted now are energy weapons. They were kinetic. That's why they added the one kinetic weapon to the class missing one a few months after live started. Because every profession had one but the one, now rifleman are left out in the cold because the tusken can't be proven to have kinetic.


Someone needs to do some digging..

Yes, Tusken Rifles were more assuredly Kinetic Damage.

[Miztah]

Yes, Tusken Rifles were more assuredly Kinetic Damage.

No they weren't. We don't make these changes without evidence. You're welcome to find evidence to the contrary (14.1 evidence, not stuff from initial release), but we didn't change it "just because". You can prolly find our evidence on Mantis in a resolved ticket somewhere if you looked around.

The wording on the weapon decay line is causing confusion for some. What it's stating is that you'll no longer take the 1/5% decay on weapons that you take on armor when you return to a cloning terminal. The only decay that weapons will take are their normal "use" decay. Weapons also can no longer be insured, because they weren't insurable on live. Hence why ADK's were so popular with high end weaponry.

[Klivian]

No they weren't. We don't make these changes without evidence. You're welcome to find evidence to the contrary (14.1 evidence, not stuff from initial release), but we didn't change it "just because". You can prolly find our evidence on Mantis in a resolved ticket somewhere if you looked around.

Yep. No one has found evidence to refute it in more than a year since the change went in. But enough about Pub 4 changes....

[Elmseeker]

The wording on the weapon decay line is causing confusion for some. What it's stating is that you'll no longer take the 1/5% decay on weapons that you take on armor when you return to a cloning terminal. The only decay that weapons will take are their normal "use" decay. Weapons also can no longer be insured, because they weren't insurable on live. Hence why ADK's were so popular with high end weaponry.

Thank you. I do believe you are correct that it was the wording in the patch notes that caused confusion here. Thanks for the clarification.

[Darksmyth]

No they weren't. We don't make these changes without evidence. You're welcome to find evidence to the contrary (14.1 evidence, not stuff from initial release), but we didn't change it "just because". You can prolly find our evidence on Mantis in a resolved ticket somewhere if you looked around.

The wording on the weapon decay line is causing confusion for some. What it's stating is that you'll no longer take the 1/5% decay on weapons that you take on armor when you return to a cloning terminal. The only decay that weapons will take are their normal "use" decay. Weapons also can no longer be insured, because they weren't insurable on live. Hence why ADK's were so popular with high end weaponry.

They weren't? Are you sure? I do seem to remember little orange [i] insurance markers on my weapons on Live. I'll have to look through my old screenshots and see if I have one of my inventory... That and weapons still decay with use, making ADKs really useful. I'm all for item decay, it keeps the player economy strong... But I do believe weapons were insurable on Live.