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[esmecat]

Whiiiich is why I said I'll quit?

Good lord.

and which also does not change the fact that you owe the community an apology.

you do realize you violated the forum rules multiple times. simply because you are staff does not make that acceptable.

https://www.swgemu.com/forums/rules.php
2.1 Spamming, baiting and trolling will not be tolerated. No harmful, abusive, racially, sexually or ethnically offensive, overtly sexual, illegal content or discussions.
2.4 Do not post any user's real-world personal information without his or her expressed permission.

[Revanis]

and which also does not change the fact that you owe the community an apology.

you do realize you violated the forum rules multiple times. simply because you are staff does not make that acceptable.

https://www.swgemu.com/forums/rules.php
2.1 Spamming, baiting and trolling will not be tolerated. No harmful, abusive, racially, sexually or ethnically offensive, overtly sexual, illegal content or discussions.
2.4 Do not post any user's real-world personal information without his or her expressed permission.

Fine, I'm sorry I was so harsh. I stand by what I said in regards to the effect on Basilisk, but I should not have been so rude. My friend was nearly in tears and that upset me quite a bit, my bad.

PS. Technically I didn't explicitly break any of those rules since one has to be pretty harsh to trigger them, sorry to burst that bubble.

Stop antagonizing people already. The issue has been resolved, let it peter out.

Just trying to calm people down, sorry.

[falacy]

Some insincere bull****...

Go away. Don't come back.

[kitsinni]

Just trying to calm people down, sorry.

You may have been trying to defend your friend, which I completely understand. The way you did it probably created more drama and resentment for them than if you said nothing. Any time someone on staff pretty much tells the community they don't matter it is bad for the project regardless of if it is specifically your job to do PR or not. There is a huge difference between PR not being your job and creating negative PR for a project.

[esmecat]

Fine, I'm sorry I was so harsh. I stand by what I said in regards to the effect on Basilisk, but I should not have been so rude. My friend was nearly in tears and that upset me quite a bit, my bad.

PS. Technically I didn't explicitly break any of those rules since one has to be pretty harsh to trigger them, sorry to burst that bubble.



Just trying to calm people down, sorry.

you should learn to calm down and think about what you are saying before responding if you are unable to treat people with decency and respect when you are upset. Cami was upset. Cami stopped posting until she had calmed down and treated the community with respect and honesty. people respect her for it.

your "apology" is far from sounding sincere... it also minimizes your behavior. be harsh is not what you did.

just because there are no consequences for you does not mean you did not violate those rules. just as the original issue required judgement to look at the policy and know that the event violated the spirit of it... you should be capable of reading those rules and knowing that your actions violate them.

[imhotep71]

and which also does not change the fact that you owe the community an apology.

you do realize you violated the forum rules multiple times. simply because you are staff does not make that acceptable.

https://www.swgemu.com/forums/rules.php
2.1 Spamming, baiting and trolling will not be tolerated. No harmful, abusive, racially, sexually or ethnically offensive, overtly sexual, illegal content or discussions.
2.4 Do not post any user's real-world personal information without his or her expressed permission.

Good lord get off the high horse already. You are one of the chief reasons this has gotten so blown out of proportion. They made a mistake and you have badgered them to the point of tears. Stop being such a judgmental, instigating jackass.


As for Revanis, you can't win this. I support you defending your friend but the butthurt that has been caused by this has these people foaming at the mouth. I'd let it go. Don't quit just throw up deuce birds and let these people nerd rage for a bit.


Oh and Vlada, cmon man you shouldn't have to fall on the sword for this. It was a mistake. You guys give your time freely. We dont pay you and apparently some of these fools don't understand just how much of yourselves you guys give to this project. Most of us appreciate what you do and think this is all blown way out of proportion.

[axel8000]

Good lord get off the high horse already. You are one of the chief reasons this has gotten so blown out of proportion. They made a mistake and you have badgered them to the point of tears. Stop being such a judgmental, instigating jackass.


As for Revanis, you can't win this. I support you defending your friend but the butthurt that has been caused by this has these people foaming at the mouth. I'd let it go. Don't quit just throw up deuce birds and let these people nerd rage for a bit.


Oh and Vlada, cmon man you shouldn't have to fall on the sword for this. It was a mistake. You guys give your time freely. We dont pay you and apparently some of these fools don't understand just how much of yourselves you guys give to this project. Most of us appreciate what you do and think this is all blown way out of proportion.

Wrong. Revanis is why this got so blown out of proportion. Had she not responded the way she did Vlada would still be here. It was all the complaints about Revanis that got Vlada to resign. Which is probably why she feels bad enough to quit.

[imhotep71]

Wrong. Revanis is why this got so blown out of proportion. Had she not responded the way she did Vlada would still be here. It was all the complaints about Revanis that got Vlada to resign. Which is probably why she feels bad enough to quit.

I disagree. She was doing what any LOYAL friend would do. Was it the smartest thing to do in this situation? Probably not. But I will not fault her for defending her friend.

You guys all seem to think you're owed something here. Tell me again how much you are paying for this? What service you expect from them? If you think you can do better then knock yourself out. Otherwise let it die already. Esmecat contributed way more to this being an issue in my opinion. Thats exactly what I'm typing is as well. My opinion with my main toon name plastered in my sig, not hiding behind a forum name.

[esmecat]

I disagree. She was doing what any LOYAL friend would do. Was it the smartest thing to do in this situation? Probably not. But I will not fault her for defending her friend.

You guys all seem to think you're owed something here. Tell me again how much you are paying for this? What service you expect from them? If you think you can do better then knock yourself out. Otherwise let it die already. Esmecat contributed way more to this being an issue in my opinion. Thats exactly what I'm typing is as well. My opinion with my main toon name plastered in my sig, not hiding behind a forum name.

it is possible to defend a friend without resorting to name calling and belittling the community.

and my forum name is all that is here because i rarely use the forums and never had reason to set up a signature. if you had asked me at any time who my toon in game was, i would have happily answered you.

Jinian is my toon name.

while i expect that there will be those childish enough to stoop to in game harassment because of it, i am not hiding behind anything or trying to avoid responsibility for what i have said.

and what i think i'm owed is being treated with basic respect from a staff member. i'm owed that because i have treated them with the same respect i expect from them.

[imhotep71]

it is possible to defend a friend without resorting to name calling and belittling the community.

and my forum name is all that is here because i rarely use the forums and never had reason to set up a signature. if you had asked me at any time who my toon in game was, i would have happily answered you.

Jinian is my toon name.

while i expect that there will be those childish enough to stoop to in game harassment because of it, i am not hiding behind anything or trying to avoid responsibility for what i have said.

and what i think i'm owed is being treated with basic respect from a staff member. i'm owed that because i have treated them with the same respect i expect from them.

You aren't OWED anything. Thats the thing. You think you are owed something and you absolutely are not.

Oh and I won't harass you in game. The IGN thing is a pet peeve of mine because so many people hide behind a forum name. I applaud you for revealing yours but I absolutely CBF messing with you in game.

[josterman]

it is possible to defend a friend without resorting to name calling and belittling the community.

and my forum name is all that is here because i rarely use the forums and never had reason to set up a signature. if you had asked me at any time who my toon in game was, i would have happily answered you.

Jinian is my toon name.

while i expect that there will be those childish enough to stoop to in game harassment because of it, i am not hiding behind anything or trying to avoid responsibility for what i have said.

and what i think i'm owed is being treated with basic respect from a staff member. i'm owed that because i have treated them with the same respect i expect from them.

Boohoo. Make another thread about it.

[esmecat]

Boohoo. Make another thread about it.

this does seem to be your go to... guess you haven't noticed i didn't make the threads.

[esmecat]

Good lord get off the high horse already. You are one of the chief reasons this has gotten so blown out of proportion. They made a mistake and you have badgered them to the point of tears. Stop being such a judgmental, instigating jackass.

thank you. once again, personal attacks override rational and constructive discussion.

i did not cause Revanis to behave in the way she did. only Revanis is responsible for Revanis's behavior. this is part of being an adult. i did not behave in the way she did despite the fact she personally attacked me. it would not have blown up the way it did if she had not responded the way she did.

[imhotep71]

thank you. once again, personal attacks override rational and constructive discussion.

i did not cause Revanis to behave in the way she did. only Revanis is responsible for Revanis's behavior. this is part of being an adult. i did not behave in the way she did despite the fact she personally attacked me. it would not have blown up the way it did if she had not responded the way she did.

No but you keep poking her with a sharp stick Esmecat. Not everyone is a milktoast, Ill take the abuse patsy. Don't act like you haven't contributed to this mess.

[esmecat]

No but you keep poking her with a sharp stick Esmecat. Not everyone is a milktoast, Ill take the abuse patsy. Don't act like you haven't contributed to this mess.

i have completely contributed to continuing this by pushing that the issues be addressed and not be swept aside simply because an EC doesn't think the concerns of the community matter. but i have contributed to this by repeated,y requesting that people stick to the actual issues and treat each other with respect. i will absolutely take responsibility for that. i will always fight a corrupt or flawed system when i see one.

i'm sorry that reminding her than she resorted to abuse is poking her with a sharp stick. unfortunately, when you make a mistake, it doesn't go away just because you are upset that people don't like it.