I was wondering why there were large groups of NPCs standing around the different cities. I didn't realize those were waiting for folks to finish their mission. I've only been playing a week now, lol.
-don't go overt if you are not prepared. PvP is endgame, you will get killed probably, so only go overt if you don't care.
Can someone expound on this statement? Are you talking about being prepared to be vulnerable to both NPCs and players now? I always assumed being killed was a risk regardless of whether or not you declared a faction, the risk is just greater now. What makes it endgame? I'm not asking out of smart-assedness, there's just a lot to learn transitioning from the last mmorpg I played. Is there something I'm missing in my noobness?
Oh, and even though I'm new, it still astounds me that people automatically equate Helper with free money. How did this habit get started? I always assume it's a 14 year old player who's used to whining for stuff in real life.
Oh, and even though I'm new, it still astounds me that people automatically equate Helper with free money. How did this habit get started? I always assume it's a 14 year old player who's used to whining for stuff in real life.
its harder to make money because no one tips. I use to get tipped for teaching proffesions. Medics rarely get tips, dancers rarely do too now. They also appearantly increased the ham cost of moves. This makes doing destroy missions harder. When i first started out on day 2 of release, I just did delivery missions for a few days. That would bore the crap out of me now. But then, there was nothing in the bazaar, and no vehicles. Guess it was hard then too to do combat, hmm. Scratch what I said bout destroy missions heh.
-don't go overt if you are not prepared. PvP is endgame, you will get killed probably, so only go overt if you don't care.
Can someone expound on this statement? Are you talking about being prepared to be vulnerable to both NPCs and players now? I always assumed being killed was a risk regardless of whether or not you declared a faction, the risk is just greater now. What makes it endgame? I'm not asking out of smart-assedness, there's just a lot to learn transitioning from the last mmorpg I played. Is there something I'm missing in my noobness?
Usually everyone in PvP has a finished combat template. This wasn't always the case, naturally only few were masters back the day and everyone was a newb in some way. So you could find some people and have fun in PvP. Now if you want to stand a chance to win, you have to have a decent template, awesome armor, doc buffs, food, drinks, spices, personal shield generators, ... So you could consider PvP part of the 'endgame', since you have to complete your template first and get a lot of good equipment if you like to win sometimes. GCW was always planned as endgame, with base raids and stuff like that.
A basic concept of SWG is that you never have to participate in PvP without consent. There some ways to do this, including:
- Join a faction: yes, you give consent if you join not when declare. You could be attacked by players when being scanned by storm troopers and turned overt, or running through a faction scanner for example. Don't flame anyone because he killed you, it was your choice to take part in GCW.
- Become a Jedi: the DEVs talk about PvE and PvP mode with Jedi, that's not true. Like with joining a faction, you automatically get the chance to get attacked by players (namely Bounty Hunters) once you are a Jedi. Again this has to be triggered by you with stuff like using your lightsaber around other players. But you can be attacked, even as a neutral. So, as a Jedi you should never complain about others killing you, simply don't be a Jedi then.
- /duel: simple way to kill time at starports or test your specials in PvP.
So, if you never wanted to take part in PvP, simply don't give your consent. I think that shows, too, how PvP is more an endgame than anything else.
Yes, you can take part in PvP even as a marksman 0000, but from my perspective, PvP is among the things you can still do when you have done everything else, so I see it as endgame. And I won't talk about balance or an incentive to PvP here. Other places for that around.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Quick fixes to make the game fun now:NPCs using weapons and special attacks, reduced resistances on all except faction armor and percentbased encumbrance, faction armor craftable with improved resistances with limited use schematics from recruiters, no permadeath for faction pets, doc buffs percentbased, fixed BH mission payouts, more imperial crackdown activities, replace SBDs on the corvette with high ranking NPCs, reintroduce a Jedi TEF, reward overt players with improved payouts and faction gains How to be a successful newbie Whil Grey#2#3#5#4#6 - My character's screenshots of the day on SWG.com WillGrey.cyndera.com - My homepage
But please tip those entertainers and medics who are doing their job (non afk).
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Quick fixes to make the game fun now:NPCs using weapons and special attacks, reduced resistances on all except faction armor and percentbased encumbrance, faction armor craftable with improved resistances with limited use schematics from recruiters, no permadeath for faction pets, doc buffs percentbased, fixed BH mission payouts, more imperial crackdown activities, replace SBDs on the corvette with high ranking NPCs, reintroduce a Jedi TEF, reward overt players with improved payouts and faction gains How to be a successful newbie Whil Grey#2#3#5#4#6 - My character's screenshots of the day on SWG.com WillGrey.cyndera.com - My homepage
I remember walking outside of Dearic on Talus and seeing my first ever friend on the game. Lum was just sitting fishing all day as I'd run past doing a few missions and occasionaly stopping for a chat with her. We sat there for hours talking about the weather and other stuff.
That just dosn't happen anymore...
Now she's a mayor of a city and I still just run by doing missions...
If you REALLY want to see new players in action, head to Mos Eisley. That's where the game is now making everyone start.
It's actually pretty cool. I paid a visit there the other night. I bought a droid battery from an eager artisan who noticed my probot was running low. I made a dewback for someone who wanted a mount and she couldn't have been happier with him. I was going to sell a non-CH pet to a marksman, but just ended up giving it to him as I needed the datapad space and he wasn't sure if he wanted it or not. When he offered money, I told him not to sweat it. Amazingly enough, the cantina had real life at the keyboard entertainers in it! I was greated warmly by the band leader (who ended up with a thousand credit tip) and had another wookiee politely ask me to train him in hunting.
Financially, I did pretty well. There were no pet deeds on the bazaar, so I made half a dozen mount only dewbacks and tossed them on for 6k each. 4 of them sold within the hour.
Marc Gribble the Wookiee on Intrepid Creature Handler/Bio Engineer/Brawler/Shipwright Citizen of Pompeii, in the stinging winds of Lok Entered the village on September 28th, 2004...the adventure continues....
Shameless good night bump from myself Hopefully at least one newbie will read it lol
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Quick fixes to make the game fun now:NPCs using weapons and special attacks, reduced resistances on all except faction armor and percentbased encumbrance, faction armor craftable with improved resistances with limited use schematics from recruiters, no permadeath for faction pets, doc buffs percentbased, fixed BH mission payouts, more imperial crackdown activities, replace SBDs on the corvette with high ranking NPCs, reintroduce a Jedi TEF, reward overt players with improved payouts and faction gains How to be a successful newbie Whil Grey#2#3#5#4#6 - My character's screenshots of the day on SWG.com WillGrey.cyndera.com - My homepage
One starter money making method doesn't seem to have been mentioned: surveying
Before doing anything other than buying a better weapon if possible, get novice artisan do all the helper droid missions . After you're finished, you'll get a rental speederbike and a free ticket for the starport or shuttleport. You'll be given a couple of surveying tools. Immediately start surveying for every mineral or chemical in town. If you find a resource, especially steel, radioactive, fiberplast or ore that's over 60%, make a waypoint. Then go to the artisan mission terminal and take as many missions looking for that resource as possible. Go back to the waypoint you set, survey again and voila, all missions pay out at once! You can make upwards of 2K each time you do this. If there is no suitable resource in town, go out of town a little ways..no more than 2 or 300 meters though..survey there. More than likely, something will be over 60% or
Here's an excellent way to make decent money doing surveying..
Once you get a little combat experience under your belt and a few boxes in surveying, go out farther out of town and survey for everything. For minerals, Anything 60% or over that you find, waypoint it; if you find ore at 60% or over, waypoint it. . Once you have two or three waypoints for different resources (remember the names of the resources, write them down and the stats) then go to Coronet in Corellia or Threed in Naboo with your free ticket. Use search to find Artisans, Weaponsmiths, Architects, Droid Engineers. If you find one send them a tell and politely ask if they are interested in a good resource location. Most Master crafters greatly dislike having to survey constantly to find good resource locations and will pay upwards of 10K for a good reliable waypoint. Two things to keep in mind. The area should be relatively flat and away from any creature lairs and not have many harvesters on it already.
You can actually start a pretty good side business just supplying waypoints to crafters.
Another small business you can start is to buy from artisans wholesale. In most cases, the small items sold on the bazaar by novices and low end crafters are of inferior quality to the ones crafted by masters. They usually have them in crates. If you make friends with a master crafter, ask him if he will let you sell a few of his better small items on the bazaar on consignment. Start with two, something like 99.9% weapon repair kits for example. These are low cost items for a master and he'll probably be willing to trust you with a couple. Post them on the bazaar and when they sell, tip him his cost immediately. Chances are he'll over to give you a few more. Once you've established your integrity, he will be willing to give you more stuff to post. You can net a couple of K per item just doing this. The one perk in doing this is ofter he/she will give you a lot of resources which he/she isn't using. We crafters tend to accumulate them in large number and with the limited storage space in houses, we would just like to get them some of them out of there, but most of us can't destroy resources outright..it goes against the grain.
I'm a Master DE and Master Artisan and I've hired novices to do the things I've described above, so I know they work.
Most of us won't get to the million credit per day level in this game, but it's relatively easy to make started money if you're willing to expend a little time and energy. I made enough to buy enough resources to master artisan in 3 days, with a little help from a few generous veterans.
One starter money making method doesn't seem to have been mentioned: surveying
Before doing anything other than buying a better weapon if possible, get novice artisan do all the helper droid missions . After you're finished, you'll get a rental speederbike and a free ticket for the starport or shuttleport. You'll be given a couple of surveying tools. Immediately start surveying for every mineral or chemical in town. If you find a resource, especially steel, radioactive, fiberplast or ore that's over 60%, make a waypoint. Then go to the artisan mission terminal and take as many missions looking for that resource as possible. Go back to the waypoint you set, survey again and voila, all missions pay out at once! You can make upwards of 2K each time you do this. If there is no suitable resource in town, go out of town a little ways..no more than 2 or 300 meters though..survey there. More than likely, something will be over 60% or whatever
Here's an excellent way to make decent money doing surveying..
Once you get a little combat experience under your belt and a few boxes in surveying, go out farther out of town and survey for everything. For minerals, Anything 60% or over that you find, waypoint it; if you find ore at 60% or over, waypoint it. . Once you have two or three waypoints for different resources (remember the names of the resources, write them down and the stats) then go to Coronet in Corellia or Threed in Naboo with your free ticket. Use search to find Artisans, Weaponsmiths, Architects, Droid Engineers. If you find one send them a tell and politely ask if they are interested in a good resource location. Most Master crafters greatly dislike having to survey constantly to find good resource locations and will pay upwards of 10K for a good reliable waypoint. Two things to keep in mind. The area should be relatively flat and away from any creature lairs and not have many harvesters on it already.
You can actually start a pretty good side business just supplying waypoints to crafters.
Another small business you can start is to buy from artisans wholesale. In most cases, the small items sold on the bazaar by novices and low end crafters are of inferior quality to the ones crafted by masters. They usually have them in crates. If you make friends with a master crafter, ask him if he will let you sell a few of his better small items on the bazaar on consignment. Start with two, something like 99.9% weapon repair kits for example. These are low cost items for a master and he'll probably be willing to trust you with a couple. Post them on the bazaar and when they sell, tip him his cost immediately. Chances are he'll over to give you a few more. Once you've established your integrity, he will be willing to give you more stuff to post. You can net a couple of K per item just doing this. The one perk in doing this is ofter he/she will give you a lot of resources which he/she isn't using. We crafters tend to accumulate them in large number and with the limited storage space in houses, we would just like to get them some of them out of there, but most of us can't destroy resources outright..it goes against the grain.
I'm a Master DE and Master Artisan and I've hired novices to do the things I've described above, so I know they work.
Most of us won't get to the million credit per day level in this game, but it's relatively easy to make started money if you're willing to expend a little time and energy. I made enough to buy enough resources to master artisan in 3 days, with a little help from a few generous veterans.
The crafting profession is probably the easiest and fastest way to build up a starter nest egg that I've seen.
One starter money making method doesn't seem to have been mentioned: surveying
If you're not one already, before doing anything get novice artisan do all the helper droid missions. Most of them can be done in the safety of the town you start in. After you're finished, you'll get a rental speederbike and a free ticket for the starport or shuttleport. You'll be given a couple of surveying tools. Immediately start surveying for every mineral or chemical in town. If you find a resource, especially steel, radioactive, fiberplast or ore that's over 60%, make a waypoint. Then go to the artisan mission terminal and take as many missions looking for that resource as possible. Go back to the waypoint you set, survey again and voila, all missions pay out at once! You can make upwards of 2K each time you do this. You can actually make about 50k an hour if you move fast. If there is no suitable resource locations in town, go out of town a little ways..no more than 2 or 300 meters though, unless you have some decent combat skills. Survey there. More than likely, something will be over 60% or whatever % the mission requires.
Here's an another excellent way to make decent money doing surveying..
Once you get a little combat experience under your belt and a few boxes in surveying, go out farther out of town and survey for everything. For minerals, Anything 75% or over that you find, waypoint it; if you find ore at 60% or over, waypoint it. . Once you have two or three waypoints for different resources (remember the names of the resources, write them down and the stats) then go to Coronet in Corellia or Threed in Naboo with your free ticket. Use search to find Artisans, Weaponsmiths, Architects, Droid Engineers. If you find one send them a tell and politely ask if they are interested in a good resource location. Most Master crafters greatly dislike having to survey constantly to find good resource locations and will pay upwards of 10K for a good reliable waypoint. Two things to keep in mind. The area should be relatively flat and away from any creature lairs and not have many harvesters on it already. The crafter will have to actually go there and try to place a harvester before he'll be willing to pay you, but if he's honest, you can expect to get rewarded and probably gain a permanent customer. As a new player, you won't know what resources are the highest quality, but eventually you'll be able to get very good money providing locations for very high quality resources. Alternatively, you can ask the crafter what they need and try to find it. They'll know what's presently spawning and where. Survey only in Corellia, Tattoine and Naboo at first. Anywhere else is probably too dangerous for you at this level.
You can actually start a pretty good side business just supplying waypoints to crafters.
Another option is to buy a personal harvester or 2 on the bazaar, place them yourself and sell the resources. Even low quality resources can sell for 3-4 cpu on the bazaar and high quality as much as 12! I bought 500 units of onifide, a copper with 999 Conductivity for 6k to make my first crafting tools.
Another small business you can start is to buy from artisans wholesale. In most cases, the small items sold on the bazaar by novices and low end crafters are of inferior quality to the ones crafted by masters. They usually have them in crates. If you make friends with a master crafter, ask him if he will let you sell a few of his better small items on consignment. Start with two, something like 99.9% weapon repair kits for example. These are low cost items for a master and he'll probably be willing to trust you with a couple. Post them on the bazaar and when they sell, tip him his cost immediately. Chances are he'll offer to give you a few more. Once you've established your integrity, he will be willing to give you more stuff to post. You can net a couple of K per item just doing this. Unless he's grinding another crafting profession, he'll probably have a lot of grind quality resources hanging around. See if he'll sell them to you cheaply. We crafters tend to accumulate them in large number and with the limited storage space in houses, we would just like to get them some of them out of there, but most of us can't destroy resources outright..it goes against the grain. Often you'll get them for free just for him to free up space.
I'm no long-time veteran, only a couple of months myself, but I"m a Master DE and Master Artisan and I've hired novices to do the things I've described above, so I know they work.
Most of us won't get to the million credit per day level in this game, but it's relatively easy to make decent starter money if you're willing to expend a little time and energy. I made enough surveying to buy enough resources so that I made master artisan in 3 days, with a little help from a few generous veterans crafters. If you show initiative and willingness to do what is necessary to succeed early on, you'll be surprised just how many of us will be willing to help out in any way we can.
Hopefully at least one newbie will read it lol
