Cert level and RE level do not have to match up; just the RE level.
In fact, if it is one of those oddball pieces of loot where the RE level is lower than the cert level, placing the low RE level piece in the magical combiner box that those shipwrights use will leave the finished product at the lower cert level.
Cert level and RE level do not have to match up; just the RE level.
In fact, if it is one of those oddball pieces of loot where the RE level is lower than the cert level, placing the low RE level piece in the magical combiner box that those shipwrights use will leave the finished product at the lower cert level.
I'll have to (very carefully) try that out - if it works out that way, I might be able to load in some gorgeous lvl 6 components with the best of lvl 6 and lvl 8 stats into a ship for badge grinding (i.e. running up to Ace in multiple successive squadrons). That would come in very handy indeed...
KundoJet wrote: OK, weird RE question... I've got a number of components with a component level of X, but an RE level of Y. Mostly this is crappy Lvl 10 components (like capacitors) with an RE of 5 and no good stats to speak of. But some of them are Lvl 6 components with an RE of 8 (I think that's right, I can't get ingame to check in more detail). How do these work? With what components should I mate them?
And thanks again, Jotun - awesome thread, and you're right - you'd never make Corr, sadly. Perhaps we should breed you with a Caamasi?
These components can actually be subject to a nice, yet not necessarily beneficial phenomenon.
The L10/RE5 L5/RE10s are specific capacitors. Other examples would be the Event Horizon J-77 engine with an L4/RE2 rating. The Mandalmotors DXR-4 to the best of my knowledge is L4/RE5.
Nothing changes with these - you mate them with their specific RE levels. HOWEVER, in the case of the L5/RE10 cap, if you were to make that the first item placed in the tool, the product would be a Level 5 part with Level 10 stats. Not terribly useful, as even an extremely low mass L10 cap will be in the mid 30k range and not terribly conducive to fighter-mounting.
Where something like this would be beneficial is with the Nym's Starmap Protecto-Net shield (L8/RE7). If one were to put one of the corresponding L7/RE7s into the tool first, the resultant level of the end component would be Level 7, not Level 8, which would enable a pilot to use it one full skill level earlier than usual.
So, these parts CAN be used to ones advantage...sometimes.
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-16-200505:13 PM
Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
KundoJet wrote: OK, weird RE question... I've got a number of components with a component level of X, but an RE level of Y. Mostly this is crappy Lvl 10 components (like capacitors) with an RE of 5 and no good stats to speak of. But some of them are Lvl 6 components with an RE of 8 (I think that's right, I can't get ingame to check in more detail). How do these work? With what components should I mate them?
And thanks again, Jotun - awesome thread, and you're right - you'd never make Corr, sadly. Perhaps we should breed you with a Caamasi?
These components can actually be subject to a nice, yet not necessarily beneficial phenomenon.
The L10/RE5 L5/RE10s are specific capacitors. Other examples would be the Event Horizon J-77 engine with an L4/RE2 rating. The Mandalmotors DXR-4 to the best of my knowledge is L4/RE5.
Nothing changes with these - you mate them with their specific RE levels. HOWEVER, in the case of the L5/RE10 cap, if you were to make that the first item placed in the tool, the product would be a Level 5 part with Level 10 stats. Not terribly useful, as even an extremely low mass L10 cap will be in the mid 30k range and not terribly conducive to fighter-mounting.
Where something like this would be beneficial is with the Nym's Starmap Protecto-Net shield (L8/RE7). If one were to put one of the corresponding L7/RE7s into the tool first, the resultant level of the end component would be Level 7, not Level 8, which would enable a pilot to use it one full skill level earlier than usual.
So, these parts CAN be used to ones advantage...sometimes.
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-16-200505:13 PM
Exactly what I was thinking, Jotun - I should be able to create lvl 6 components that belnd the stats of level 8's, hopefully keeping mass at the level 6 range along wit certification, while porting in lvl 8 effectiveness for certain stats. That should make for a very effective component for someone grinding the pilot tiers...
I'll have to check next time I'm ingame. I'll post an update with the end results.
the shield surprised me since i've gotten better crafted ones, much less looted ones.
I've found the only way to get a good Protecto is to mate it with other Protectos, then look for a low mass and low drain - the rewards seem to do rather well on regen, but as I've said before - Cap to Shield Shunt pretty much invalidates the value of regen in a clutch situation.
Using just one shield leaves a lot to be desired, yeah. Don't fly with these things before REing, either - because the instant you land the wildly inaccurate hp values will average out and you'll be left with, pretty much, a useless part.
The main advantage to REing (a good) one is that MkIV SW-crafted shields suck down WAY too much juice (again, it's not their fault), but the difference between 18-2200 drain and 3400 could mean being able to mount a second weapon and/or amenities like a CM launcher.
Also, L7 REed can be under 16k and still have 17-1800hp - something SW shields can't really accomplish.
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-16-200505:22 PM
Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
For those of you who are Excel-inclined, the formulae driving the cells are located in white text one or two cells right of the MAX/MIN data column. Highlight them and you should be able to see. Obviously - if you were to retool these, the Weapons would be the best place to start, as it offers the greatest cross-section.
These sheets currently give you post-RE reactor drain values, but anyone who's into REing knows this has been busted since late November.
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-19-200501:31 AM
Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
