Basilisk extended downtime 08/09/2017

[Jervin]

There is no acceptable answer in this day and age. The concept of losing your DB backup is where I'd laugh someone out of an interview.

Then again funding for the project is in the toilet. Be glad this project is still on its feet. Everyone should take this opportunity to cough up $20-50.

[Peak]

Then again funding for the project is in the toilet. Be glad this project is still on its feet. Everyone should take this opportunity to cough up $20-50.

Agreed

[bigevil]

Then again funding for the project is in the toilet. Be glad this project is still on its feet. Everyone should take this opportunity to cough up $20-50.

I have no issue coughing up a few more space bucks if we need it. Need to increase my gold bar count anyway.

[zazano]

Then again funding for the project is in the toilet. Be glad this project is still on its feet. Everyone should take this opportunity to cough up $20-50.

Why is donating more money the answer? I'm asking why this patch was pushed without purchasing a new HDD drive.

[Vlada]

Why is donating more money the answer? I'm asking why this patch was pushed without purchasing a new HDD drive.

Had we known we would have replaced it. This isn't a situation where we made a conscious decision to ignore a broken HDD.

**** happens, in our case its a massive amount of ****, but oh well, what's done is done. Instead of throwing blame, which btw will change absolutely nothing, we need to roll up our sleeves and start shoveling it.

[PigGeneral]

Then again funding for the project is in the toilet. Be glad this project is still on its feet. Everyone should take this opportunity to cough up $20-50.

Would it go to an infrastructure engineer that has worked in the real world in the last 20 years? Is there a price breakdown of how donations are spent? This is a pretty big "whoopsie" for me to open my wallet on the heels of.

[Quoloth]

The wipe isn't what upsets me. It's unfortunate but that's okay, its a test server. But there's no good reason not to have proper backup practices in place these days. 3-2-1 rule is the way to go. 3 copies, 2 physical devices, 1 remote. Lots of free software to do it too.

[DDSilver]

There is no acceptable answer in this day and age. The concept of losing your DB backup is where I'd laugh someone out of an interview.

Sure there is : Lack of proper funding.

Talking about funding, like so many others here I just realized it is time to donate again.
This is not just an elaborate ploy to make our hard-earned well deserved money your hard-earned well deserved money, right?

Concerning the possible wipe, I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooohhhhkey... that could work out nicely.
Do what you must.

[wrrlykam]

As a trader with stock, accumulated resource and a customer base, a wipe is a painful thought. But if it must be it must be.

[Audune]

I was under the impression the Basilisk server was a hosted machine at some datacenter in Dallas. A blown hard drive I would think would have been taken care of by the host and not necessarily something the buyer had to cough up extra for. But, hard drives are cheap.

What I'm confused on is you did lose the raid, throwing in a new hard drive and restoring it from a prior backed up image should be much easier than waiting and praying for a recovery operation to happen. At worst you'd lose... a day? Unless someone was slacking on the normally accepted backup practices.

At any rate, a wipe now vs one later, doesn't really change the grand scheme of it all going away anyways.

But yeah... check your drives at home kids. It's not fun.

Also, wtf, when was the last time I posted here? Been a while.

[Shadow30]

+1 for wipe.

Introducing Jedi into an environment similar to what Suncrusher will be for testing is as good as you will get from a meaningful feedback standpoint IMHO. I'd also be a fan of tossing in some cash to help get the additional hardware where you all would want/need it moving forward on the push towards Suncrusher.

Thanks!

[Ryjarob]

+1 for wipe.

Introducing Jedi into an environment similar to what Suncrusher will be for testing is as good as you will get from a meaningful feedback standpoint IMHO. I'd also be a fan of tossing in some cash to help get the additional hardware where you all would want/need it moving forward on the push towards Suncrusher.

Thanks!

Erm, how?
It will take players longer to get to the village.. and complete village grind. Therefore it will take longer for any bugs to be stumbled upon, test and ironed out.
Please tell me how a wipe will benefit testing? because I don't see it.

[birdmanyo]

I'm still kind of new so I don't know. But if all that is required to start being a Jedi is to get a couple badges and master a class, then it does worry me that the server will become overloaded with Jedi and not enough bountyhunters to counteract it if there's a whipe.

[Shadow30]

Erm, how?
It will take players longer to get to the village.. and complete village grind. Therefore it will take longer for any bugs to be stumbled upon, test and ironed out.
Please tell me how a wipe will benefit testing? because I don't see it.

The current state of Basilisk is completely out of sorts due to the years of farming and power creep. The Jedi class were never designed nor tweaked to survive in these conditions. The debate on the forums in this regards is pretty straight forward, the only thing a Jedi could do now is really run-in, heal, run out. You will not be able to stand toe-to-toe with any of the top tier PVP'ers from a simple equipment imbalance issue (it would be literally laughable). Suncrusher will be "prestine" similar to a wipe on Basilisk. There would be a lag phase, yes, but then you would have them existing in a world perspective against contemporaries that will have a substantively reduced power curve. Any balancing can be viewed much more clearly in this environment. In reference to your brute force testing for bugs, etc. I would agree but that's what TC Nova is for. You can simulate whatever we need there to hammer things out if we think it's really an issue. Even if this slows down suncrusher by 6 months, at least we all (Devs included) will get some insight on what that's going to look like with all classes in play. Just my thoughts.

[bigevil]

I was under the impression the Basilisk server was a hosted machine at some datacenter in Dallas. A blown hard drive I would think would have been taken care of by the host and not necessarily something the buyer had to cough up extra for. But, hard drives are cheap.

What I'm confused on is you did lose the raid, throwing in a new hard drive and restoring it from a prior backed up image should be much easier than waiting and praying for a recovery operation to happen. At worst you'd lose... a day? Unless someone was slacking on the normally accepted backup practices.

At any rate, a wipe now vs one later, doesn't really change the grand scheme of it all going away anyways.

But yeah... check your drives at home kids. It's not fun.

Also, wtf, when was the last time I posted here? Been a while.

Holy ****, long time no see. Hello

.....and your answer is 2012. LOL.