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    Quote Originally Posted by WohenForgotHisPassword View Post
    I use a VPN, virtually always, on both my phone and PC. I started because I don't have a data plan on my cell and I use a lot of wifi hot-spots around town. However, I've been under the impression, for sometime now, that it's recommended in general that everyone use a VPN.

    I only have one account but I can understand how VPNs would present a challenge to monitoring that.. not looking forward to having to choose between a VPN and SWG.
    We're asking that your traffic to us goes outside the VPN, that doesn't mean you can't keep it running for whatever else you might want to do. Most of these services have the ability to exclude a IP from routing through the VPN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastburn View Post
    We're asking that your traffic to us goes outside the VPN, that doesn't mean you can't keep it running for whatever else you might want to do. Most of these services have the ability to exclude a IP from routing through the VPN.
    Oh! Thanks very much for the clarification!

    Is is the launchpad or the client that needs to be excluded from the VPN?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WohenForgotHisPassword View Post
    I use a VPN, virtually always, on both my phone and PC. I started because I don't have a data plan on my cell and I use a lot of wifi hot-spots around town. However, I've been under the impression, for sometime now, that it's recommended in general that everyone use a VPN.

    I only have one account but I can understand how VPNs would present a challenge to monitoring that.. not looking forward to having to choose between a VPN and SWG.
    Yes in general every VPN service provider ad recommends you pay to use their VPN services. Ping will almost certainly be worse for you when you use VPN, not sure why would someone go for that?

    Just curious what are people afraid of? targeted ads or ISP knowing that that you look at dirty farm animal sites? NSA knows it either way VPN or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surrena View Post
    Yes in general every VPN service provider ad recommends you pay to use their VPN services. Ping will almost certainly be worse for you when you use VPN, not sure why would someone go for that?

    Just curious what are people afraid of? targeted ads or ISP knowing that that you look at dirty farm animal sites? NSA knows it either way VPN or not.
    Great great News. But I'm using NordVPN and I didn't found this option. Something special to do ?
    Sorry I'm a noob :/


    No1 had just 2 slots on live, that I knew anyway. We bought multi-accounts. I had 4, wife had 5. Contrary to popular belief, live accounts were not limited, they just cost money.
    Exactly, I had bought 4 Boxes and I was Paying 4 subscriptions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surrena
    Just curious what are people afraid of? targeted ads or ISP knowing that that you look at dirty farm animal sites? NSA knows it either way VPN or not.
    To Access to our country TVs, newspaper website blocked in the country we are living. During 2 years, my Bank Website wasn't joinable, they have removed the restriction in september ...
    As Tourist it's not important, as expatriate it's really different. But like I said, I think we are few.

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    NSA knows it either way VPN or not.
    I hope not, even if they can, I don't care ... I'm more worry about writing in a forum about stupid king in thailand and risk Jail.
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    The VPN discussion is important. ADK's? Char slots? Unlocks? Really not fully decided. Don't consider this thread a declaration of 1.0 features. What 1.0 will hold will be a mystery to all who make a toon. That much I can assure you.

    On the other hand, Multi-account issues will be secured. Many options remain open to be able to play swgemu. Exceptions can be made by using the open communication channels provided. Our plan was never to exclude any individual, but to secure a safe place for everyone.

    Without illegitimate use of a VPN to create undetected multi-accounts to advance in the game we all have the same advantage.

    I'm also watching. Everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scurby View Post
    Without illegitimate use of a VPN to create undetected multi-accounts to advance in the game we all have the same advantage.
    Sure, I understand the problem about one guy with 10-15 accounts managing a metroplois and with 10 ADKs, it's a big issue.
    But if you change the characters limits to 1 or 2 by account (with unlock instead of ADK), that's already remove the "city managing problem" may be vet rewards should be linked (like crystal quest of Jedi)

    Quote Originally Posted by Scurby View Post
    we all have the same advantage.
    That will never happen, we don't spend the same time IG (Should limit to 2H by day), we don't know the game mechanics same, we don't have the same number of friends to help ...
    I'm leaving too far to get a good ping without lost packet, So I'm disadvantage for pvp and die stupidly in pve sometimes too.
    I'm french and we love equality (as a socialist country) but it's a dream, just a dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by rease View Post
    That will never happen, we don't spend the same time IG (Should limit to 2H by day), we don't know the game mechanics same, we don't have the same number of friends to help ...
    I'm leaving too far to get a good ping without lost packet, So I'm disadvantage for pvp and die stupidly in pve sometimes too.
    I'm french and we love equality (as a socialist country) but it's a dream, just a dream
    Ofc he is right, we all have the same chance to get ahead in the galaxy, if the TOS is followed. Knowledge and time spent is on you. If you don't have the time to get ahead, don't expect code to help you. It would not be fair if someone putting in 4 hours a week get to be at the same place that someone who put in 20 hours. If you lack knowledge, learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolindir View Post
    Ofc he is right, we all have the same chance to get ahead in the galaxy, if the TOS is followed. Knowledge and time spent is on you. If you don't have the time to get ahead, don't expect code to help you. It would not be fair if someone putting in 4 hours a week get to be at the same place that someone who put in 20 hours. If you lack knowledge, learn.
    Quite so. All the same chances exist, but the limiter is the desire or ability to spend the same level of time and effort. I cannot hold it against player "x" that they can afford to play 20hrs a week and have developed friendships with other like-minded folk. Heck, I started on the forums, writing guides, and pestering the heck out of people because i got tired of being ignorant. I had to "get smart."

    .....and as for VPNs.... as i read through here I am continually centered by one thought...there is no perfect answer. You are trying to mitigate a flaw in the player structure of the game. If you take away VPN use, some will be affected. If you block certain zones, some will be affected. It will come down to the ruling lords' (most certainly not me) comfort level with what is most effective with acceptable losses. Some will not be happy. That's normal.

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    Removed several off topic posts. Lets keep this thread on track
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastburn View Post
    We're asking that your traffic to us goes outside the VPN, that doesn't mean you can't keep it running for whatever else you might want to do. Most of these services have the ability to exclude a IP from routing through the VPN.
    Can you provide the ip or hostname that needs to be blocked, or a port used? I have my VPN configured in router and need to unblock there.

    The reason I asked if the client scans a local network is that, while I respect the TOS and such, I expect some respect when it comes to the privacy of the devices on my network. Having a game run as a network scanner is not good, and I'm looking for some assurance that it isn't one. I'm defining network scanner as software that will scan route tables or take client IP and ping subnet with it for results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyinDuke View Post
    Can you provide the ip or hostname that needs to be blocked, or a port used? I have my VPN configured in router and need to unblock there.

    The reason I asked if the client scans a local network is that, while I respect the TOS and such, I expect some respect when it comes to the privacy of the devices on my network. Having a game run as a network scanner is not good, and I'm looking for some assurance that it isn't one. I'm defining network scanner as software that will scan route tables or take client IP and ping subnet with it for results.
    We don't do anything on client side but to be clear most modern games do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyinDuke View Post
    Can you provide the ip or hostname that needs to be blocked, or a port used? I have my VPN configured in router and need to unblock there.
    I think you mean excluded, but it should be what you see in your Launchpad > Settings > Login Servers > Click SWGEMU > Click Edit > Should show Hostname and Port that need to be excluded.
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    I know this is a bit of an out there suggestion and I dare say I will be flamed to ashes for the mere suggestion, but how about the people who want to use VPN's send a picture of their disks with Activation Code on the case?

    The Code is then assigned to that user and be allowed to access the server through VPN. If they are banned by the system after first sign on, they can contact Support who will then check their Code has been assigned and unban them so they can continue to use a VPN. Assuming there is an option (or one that can be created) to excluded from further banning upon signing on, it will be a one time only procedure for both player and Admin.

    I just think its the best way to stop any more people leaving the server, as it is the population has plummeted and if there is a way to stop losing anymore players I think it would be worth the effort.

    What is the point of all the work that has gone in to this project if players are going to be alienated for their choice of security? Especially those who I dare say make a sizable contribution to "Pay the Bills".

    I dont use VPN, I have never used VPN, I dont give a flying Mynocks tail about VPN, but I have seen how the population has plummeted and its a shame when this is the best Pre-CU SWG Emu server available to all of us dedicated fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snash123 View Post
    I know this is a bit of an out there suggestion and I dare say I will be flamed to ashes for the mere suggestion, but how about the people who want to use VPN's send a picture of their disks with Activation Code on the case?

    The Code is then assigned to that user and be allowed to access the server through VPN. If they are banned by the system after first sign on, they can contact Support who will then check their Code has been assigned and unban them so they can continue to use a VPN. Assuming there is an option (or one that can be created) to excluded from further banning upon signing on, it will be a one time only procedure for both player and Admin.

    I just think its the best way to stop any more people leaving the server, as it is the population has plummeted and if there is a way to stop losing anymore players I think it would be worth the effort.

    What is the point of all the work that has gone in to this project if players are going to be alienated for their choice of security? Especially those who I dare say make a sizable contribution to "Pay the Bills".

    I dont use VPN, I have never used VPN, I dont give a flying Mynocks tail about VPN, but I have seen how the population has plummeted and its a shame when this is the best Pre-CU SWG Emu server available to all of us dedicated fans.
    I believe all this will only be important when the new server is launched. IE this work and testing is more for when everyone and their brother wants to put 30 accounts on the new server at start up. You wont be lacking for people to play with on the new server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loc-nar View Post
    You wont be lacking for people to play with on the new server.
    I do hope you're right =)
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