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    Quote Originally Posted by kenobuOwan View Post
    What about this engine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordkator View Post
    I has been confirmed many times that SOE will not do this and in addition they DO NOT HAVE the original pre-CU code base anywhere. It was lost in the shutdown and will never be recovered.

    You can't just glue together two games, the underlying systems are not the same, it's like trying to run a car on diesel that isn't designed for it...

    But we are working on a new feature for 1.0, you'll be able to travel to a new planet called Azzeroth.

    (sorry couldn't resist)



    For the effort of having a new game made we could have finished JTL 100x over.

    It's not that its impossible, its that we don't have enough devs interested in driving it forward.
    That's the answer to your question.
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    That one is an engine... it's not an existing game "being glued in".

    From his op...


    Quote Originally Posted by lordkator View Post
    Its unclear what the final design might look like[, we have considered a second engine with a bridge between them to make it seamless for the player to come in and out of the ground game

    Basing my suggestions off ^^^ this post in the OP. They've considered another engine before, so it's not in the realm of unbelievable, that they might consider another option if it is workable.

    So if there's another viable option... why not look into it considering how the current user base has nosedived since the jtl announcement.

    The only other option is for them to hack in the code to the current engine that wasn't designed for 3d space functions like ticks and uses a different spatial indexing tech.

    In his own words... "it would be a nightmare".




    Quote Originally Posted by lordkator View Post
    For the effort of having a new game made we could have finished JTL 100x over.

    It's not that its impossible, its that we don't have enough devs interested in driving it forward.

    That's the whole point of using an engine... so that it doesn't have to be designed from the ground up and building your own engine. It already has a spatial indexing tech for space travel and it has a combat system built for things like projectile "ticks", etc.

    You know... the stuff that he said would be a nightmare to hack in and that they don't have the devs for.

    You might even find people competent in dev with the engine who might be willing to donate their time to a STAR WARS project.

    Or you could use the open source branch of the engine that was developed FOR Star Wars. You might be able to get some devs from that project to help out with the engine here...

    https://www.moddb.com/mods/fwtow





    So in case a dev, and not a qa, is reading... maybe this is a viable solution.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSp...e_Code_Project

    https://github.com/scp-fs2open/fs2open.github.com

    https://www.moddb.com/engines/fs2-open-engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenobuOwan View Post
    So in case a dev, and not a qa, is reading... maybe this is a viable solution.
    Bashing our QA who try to give you an honest answer, will not help your case. Several of our QA also do code, so they are not all lost when they talk about it, as it seems you believe with this comment.

    At this point, we will not go this route. We are working on putting together a JTL team and some have reached out, but nothing is finalized and if it does, it will be a lot of work. You will just have to trust that our devs know the best way forward. Everyone of our active developers are actually senior devs professionally, so I have faith in that the decisions they make, are for the best for our project.
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    Because a potential viable option shouldn't be fwd'd and investigated.

    Instead of being courteous and saying thx for the input we'll fwd it on, instead it's "It's been asked and answered, you don't know what you're talking about" snark.

    It's clear that it's falling on deaf ears.
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    I believe they already know about the information you have provided, that is where my comment about trust in our development team comes in.

    If a job in a supermarket is what you wish to pursue, I say go for it!

    Actually, there are a lot of members in this community that have software development experience, some of them have contributed code as well (and several have started their own servers). If you wish to help the project, we are open to people who wish to contribute to the project. Our recruitment is always open in that department. Feel free to contribute. Mantis is full of work that needs to be done and there are still things that need to be implemented and there is ofc the future as well, be part of the team that shape the new server.
    Most of our devs and QA are willing to help and teach people who wish to contribute. Just reach out to some of them and start talking. Our Discord channel is a good place to get a hold of us.

    You can also ofc read the recruitment post
    https://www.swgemu.com/forums/conten...-is-Recruiting
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    I say buy the damn engine, let someone else do the job for us.
    We will cut our expenses until they finish the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makednoce View Post
    I say buy the damn engine, let someone else do the job for us.
    We will cut our expenses until they finish the job.
    You're a mate, and I like you. I've known you for eons. But please, just let the grownups talk.

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    But with all things said kenobuOwan, Mobyus1 is hosting an interview with Lordkator and ask for questions sent in to him. Follow this link to submit your question
    https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225598
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    Sorry for the lurker post but I'm honestly surprised by the number of people whom actually do not know whats going on. Plenty is posted and pinned as to the reasons for the progression of development. Funny stuff happens to intellectual property when departments and companies switch hands, usually things are lost forever in the quagmire of legalese. Stuck in a limbo of proprietary ownership to ghosts.
    Anyways, I'm glad your starting up a JTL team even though the original plan was not to start on JTL until the ground game was complete. I think its a fair compromise considering the interest of the community in JTL along side the ground game.
    Keep up the good work as always devs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenobuOwan View Post
    Because a potential viable option shouldn't be fwd'd and investigated.

    Instead of being courteous and saying thx for the input we'll fwd it on, instead it's "It's been asked and answered, you don't know what you're talking about" snark.

    It's clear that it's falling on deaf ears.
    Maybe because you don't know what you are talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlada View Post
    But please, just let the grownups talk.
    Greta Thunberg would like to have a word with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedge15 View Post
    Greta Thunberg would like to have a word with you.
    Who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlada View Post
    Who?
    Someone who lives outside the SWGEmu forums.

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    Greta Thunberg would like to have a word with you.
    Ouch, I'm way up here in the stratosphere and I can still feel the heat from that burn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedge15 View Post
    Someone who lives outside the SWGEmu forums.
    Ah, that would explain it.

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