Death and Taxes...

[Asifab19]

While we are grateful for the sudden influx of donations, I feel like i need say that this thread wasn't posted with that intent at all. Oru and the rest of the staff just wanted to keep the community in the loop. Yes we had some trouble with Hungarian tax authorities, yes we did have some unexpected expenses, but it was all covered and we're moving forward. I think LK said it best:




On a more personal note, your concern, your dedication as well as your donations are humbling and deeply appreciated.

Thank you for being awesome.

Even though you like to Troll us on the forums most of the time Vlada, I think the donations are coming in because everyone would miss it haha.

To Oru.......**** happens man, I don't think anyone who has ever invested their time either helping or playing or even doing both on this project would be upset at you not being a master at Hungarian/US/EU taxation. While the staff is not asking for players to donate more I believe most will when they have the money. If you are still here either staff side or player side this game is probably one of the biggest passions you've had in your life time. While I was just a teenager when this game was live, I am now in my 30's being able to play it all again. No game has ever come close to this date at being as diverse in things you can do as SWG was.

If there is any future cost related issues with this project my personal opinion is bring them out to the community right away. I believe most of us that are still around now will do what ever we can to help keep this up and running.


Thank You to the founders, the current and retired staff for allowing us all to continue playing such an amazing game!

[PikiPunobi]

some legal representation would go a long way in this type of situation. perhaps there is a member of the community that can assist?

[Qui-larek]

We know Vlada, nothing wrong with a little /burstrun every once in a while

[Praxi34]

Thanks for letting us know ORU. I live in the UK and run a Beauty and Aesthetics business and the tax and VAT issues are awfully arcane. Hitting the VAT threshold in the UK is a full time job in itself paying it back!!!!

I will make sure I donate a bit more this month to help cover some of the costs.

[Mobyus1]

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...yes, I know it says "ChannelUpdate_July18" ... but it's not.

[Praxi34]

Video is recorded, edited, and rendering. Will be available later tonight.

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...yes, I know it says "ChannelUpdate_July18" ... but it's not.

Awesome good work Mobyus1

[Mobyus1]

Alright, it's posted. Spread the word. And thanks to everyone who's already donated!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypM7h2GHDts

[Walking carpet]

Alright, it's posted. Spread the word. And thanks to everyone who's already donated!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypM7h2GHDts

Ohh Yeah tanx bro

Vlada stop playing with the taxes heheh

[Vlada]

Ohh Yeah tanx bro

Vlada stop playing with the taxes heheh

This is a serious thread so ill refrain from explaining what I'm playing with most of the time.

[Misk Brebran]

Alright, it's posted. Spread the word. And thanks to everyone who's already donated!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypM7h2GHDts

Good vid as always, thx Mob!

[dust906]

if i was to voice my first thought after reading this.

It would be that i think the entire dev community should come out and just do a QA live one night.
we don't hear from you guys enough in my opinion and if you want us to pull together, it would just be nice to see that from the devs, even when not in a bad spot.

just looking for more communication with the base.

[Mobyus1]

if i was to voice my first thought after reading this.

It would be that i think the entire dev community should come out and just do a QA live one night.
we don't hear from you guys enough in my opinion and if you want us to pull together, it would just be nice to see that from the devs, even when not in a bad spot.

just looking for more communication with the base.

I would be down to host such a thing... like a livestream with staff on Discord or something. I think it'd be too difficult to get everyone together at the same time though.

[nee2earth]

It would be that i think the entire dev community should come out and just do a Q&A session live one night.
we don't hear from you guys enough in my opinion .

I actually used to irritate the devs about that very thing quite a lot back when i was on-staff, even trying to organize something with less pressure (like a Newsletter) to augment the Year-End-Updates.

But in retrospect, i came to realize not only how impractical it was but also how unnecessary.

Reason being: Most, if not all, of the entire current Dev Team is readily available for questions 24/7 in IRC & Discord, as well as on these forums.

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like a livestream with staff

. I think it'd be too difficult to get everyone together at the same time though.

Bingo ^ , therein lies the main hurdle. RL time management.

We all have to remember that these are not paid SOE employees required by corporate to do 'Stratics live chats' periodically for PR. These are noble volunteers, working in their spare time. And 99% of that spare time is typically spent coding & testing.

Letting them work in peace seems to indeed be the best method for consistant progress.

[lordkator]

if i was to voice my first thought after reading this.

It would be that i think the entire dev community should come out and just do a QA live one night.
we don't hear from you guys enough in my opinion and if you want us to pull together, it would just be nice to see that from the devs, even when not in a bad spot.

just looking for more communication with the base.

I'm generally supportive of open communication between staff and community.

We have a number of challenges on the Q&A front:

1. Trolls
2. We're all volunteers and on five different timezones world-wide.
3. All of us have day jobs so scheduling is tough (yes some work on the weekends)
4. Currently there is very little to discuss, we're very clear on our goal and it's set in stone.
5. Managing Q&A is stressful, and in this context most Q's will be off topic because of our clear milestone.
6. People who's Q's don't get addressed feel like we're not listening or being defensive.
7. We often make a lot of technical decisions but we make very few if any design decisions because we're trying to emulate a point in time, not fix it (yet).
8. Given 1 hour to code vs 1 hour of Q&A which would you really rather our devs spend time on?
9. See #1

One of my concerns is that the people on the forums are not the bulk of people in the game.
Lots of people in the game, login, play, have fun, logout, live their lives, come back again later.
Only a small percent actually make it the forums. And we also have a lot of people in the forums who never play the game.
This imbalance makes communication here biased in a way that is not easy to correct for.

All this said as you may have noticed I've been trying to carve out more time for the community. All of us on staff know its important, however it is incredibly time consuming and challenging.

Perhaps we could start with the community voting on a couple questions (NOT IN THIS THREAD) and we can try to have a thoughtful answer to the top couple of questions on a weekly basis.



(P.S. If you try to get Q&A questions started on this tread I'll ask the mods to delete your post)

[Mobyus1]

One of my concerns is that the people on the forums are not the bulk of people in the game.
Lots of people in the game, login, play, have fun, logout, live their lives, come back again later.
Only a small percent actually make it the forums. And we also have a lot of people in the forums who never play the game.
This imbalance makes communication here biased in a way that is not easy to correct for.

This is 100% accurate.

All this said as you may have noticed I've been trying to carve out more time for the community. All of us on staff know its important, however it is incredibly time consuming and challenging.

Perhaps we could start with the community voting on a couple questions (NOT IN THIS THREAD) and we can try to have a thoughtful answer to the top couple of questions on a weekly basis.

That'd be a great new thing that should only take a few minutes of your time each week. =D