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    Good luck to ya.

    Honestly, it sounds to me like you also had problems migrating your Berkeley database files and just don't want to admit to the general public that it's a system with flaws that can only really be resolved by deleting the DB files and starting over. If that really is the case, there's nothing wrong with admitting it and moving on. It's a complicated system, there are basically no tools for fixing Berkeley databases, and poop happens. Plus, you're not even finished building the whole system yet so, so what if the bugs haven't all been worked out yet.

    You're doing a great job. No one expects you to be perfect.

    I, at the very least, do expect you to be honest (seriously, who loses data to hard drive failures anymore? Really? That's either utter incompetence or a lie).
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    I just bought the game (two times) about two weeks ago. i am good with a wipe and I am hopeful that the community comes alive once again.. abit more poeple actually playing instead of afk grinding it.
    when I played live (pre-CU) back in the days, the community was the thing that made the major difference, the way it all had to work together to accomplish stuff.

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    I remember when I played when it first came out. If you got killed on a mission running around in your drawers, back to loot your corpse, lol. Oh yeah running as there were no mounts or vehicles. My buddies and I had fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falacy View Post
    Good luck to ya.

    Honestly, it sounds to me like you also had problems migrating your Berkeley database files and just don't want to admit to the general public that it's a system with flaws that can only really be resolved by deleting the DB files and starting over. If that really is the case, there's nothing wrong with admitting it and moving on. It's a complicated system, there are basically no tools for fixing Berkeley databases, and poop happens. Plus, you're not even finished building the whole system yet so, so what if the bugs haven't all been worked out yet.

    You're doing a great job. No one expects you to be perfect.

    I, at the very least, do expect you to be honest (seriously, who loses data to hard drive failures anymore? Really? That's either utter incompetence or a lie).
    There is no migration in this publish...Congratulations on trying to sound smart, but you're way off here. This is a hardware failure, plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reoze View Post
    There is no migration in this publish...Congratulations on trying to sound smart, but you're way off here. This is a hardware failure, plain and simple.
    So, you are telling me they had exactly ONE backup? I find that incredibly hard to believe. You are either naive for believing that or they actually DO have one backup and that is frankly terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trakaa View Post
    So, you are telling me they had exactly ONE backup? I find that incredibly hard to believe. You are either naive for believing that or they actually DO have one backup and that is frankly terrible.
    Im sure they have a hardcopy and just need a few years to scan it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livy2K View Post
    Im sure they have a hardcopy and just need a few years to scan it
    Bwa ha ha ha.

    Also, sad face

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    Wipe and come back with one or two characters per account? Brilliant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by neutrineaux View Post
    Wipe and come back with one or two characters per account? Brilliant!
    If only. Feels like a missed opportunity to wipe without that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neutrineaux View Post
    Wipe and come back with one or two characters per account? Brilliant!
    YES! Agreed, do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trakaa View Post
    So, you are telling me they had exactly ONE backup? I find that incredibly hard to believe. You are either naive for believing that or they actually DO have one backup and that is frankly terrible.
    Naive? I wrote the last database migration, there have been none since. You can look at the code if you wish, it's all spelled out as clearly as possible.
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    As for me, my initial reaction was "Noooooooo" and then my secondary reaction was "Okaaaaaayyyyy!" I'd love to see the server reset and for there to be all new traffic to the server. A lot of the settled areas would be finally be open to the active players, again; enough with these completely-abandoned player cities. Publish 9 will bring a healthy addition of gameplay and things to do and the freshness of a restart is exactly the poetic justice I think this community could use.

    Weed-out the real players and your longtermer's while flushing-out the excess bulk that has run the server down. Open it all up to those of us who check the forums daily for posts like this, rather than keep the unnecessary junk left-behind by those who don't/can't play anymore. Publish 9 and 10 are really where the bulk of players will come in, anyway, so, what's a small hiccup startover to the amount of attraction this, and the next, Publish will garner?

    Quote Originally Posted by falacy View Post
    I, at the very least, do expect you to be honest (seriously, who loses data to hard drive failures anymore? Really? That's either utter incompetence or a lie).
    That's funny: fallacy* creates a false dichotomy without any further information! Perhaps we should trust them and not make a big deal out of it. (:

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