Website and Database Move 01/07/12

[ibuth]

sound good!

[xyborn]

How expensive are monthly operating costs now with a third server?

[Vlada]

How expensive are monthly operating costs now with a third server?

Third, Community box has been around for months now, monthly costs are still the same as they were back in November.

November had the following expenses:

FDC for three dedicated servers = $897.00
BurstNet for Windows virtual private server = $7.95
Xzibition for IRC virtual private server = $8.76
TOTAL EXPENSES = $913.71

[xyborn]

Third, Community box has been around for months now, monthly costs are still the same as they were back in November.

Weren't both Liberator and Nova running on the now "Liberator Box"? So, if all three servers have been around for months, what was running on the now "Community Box" previously?

[Vlada]

Weren't both Liberator and Nova running on the now "Liberator Box"? So, if all three servers have been around for months, what was running on the now "Community Box" previously?

Yup, as far as i know they are still on the same Denver box, and Community box was being prepared for the move, Site Services probably has more info on this, my involvement in the actual move began when and ended when I posted this.


P.S. This move probably should have happened months ago, like it was planed. But some of the staff members went MIA, others were just too busy IRL and didnt have time for SWGEmu, so everything was put on hold, up until now.

[Ganymede]

Cool beans

[Morex]

Sweet stuff.

[TAfirehawk]

This doesn't require a wipe though??

No wipe, 100% database dump and 100% file copy. And remember, this has NOTHING to do with the game servers Liberator/Nova/STM at this stage.

24 hours to move a website from one server to the next?

It takes quite awhile to transfer many GB's of MySQL data and get it reloaded. The copy has already been tested with "old" data but we need to shut this site down, copy the current data and then finish tweaking the setup. I figure this whole process is 4-6 hours if things go perfect - how often do things go perfect - but also remember the DNS change will be up to 24 hours to propogate too.

Weren't both Liberator and Nova running on the now "Liberator Box"? So, if all three servers have been around for months, what was running on the now "Community Box" previously?

Vlada did a good job replying but I wanted to expand it a bit more.

We got the third server at the beginning of September I think. The purpose is for a brand new site with "updated" technology on the server side. The tools we are using were just updated/released a few weeks/months before we got the third server. The tools will provide the best, free environment for security, access control, crash isolation and data backups. I won't get into all the details but there is no "Easy Button" for cutting edge server technology that is FREE...so it has taken a lot longer than anticipated.

The new site isn't ready yet so we stopped working on that and shifted gears to copy Chicago to the Community Box so the Developers could have a Nova/STM dedicated server sooner. The Devs need this to keep progress moving in the code, so that change took extra time as well.

The management of Liberator moving to Site Services is also part of the future plan that figures into this equation to help the Developers focus on Nova/STM. We are constantly trying to improve development and this current announcement is not the end of the upcoming changes


The Law of Project Management comes into play here....there are three variables in every project and only two can be controlled. You can pick any two but not three: scope, cost and time. In SWGEmu we have a specific scope/task with almost no money (relative to big gaming companies) so the amount of time to get the scope/task completed just falls beyond anybody's control.