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    You know that many countries around the world requires the use of VPNs since there governments blocks many parts of the internet, also those who travel to those countries and still want to play?
    I recommend allowing VPNs only on demand by users put there names on a list and then you can check them for abuse.
    Blocking it all is too drastic in a free world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking carpet View Post
    You know that many countries around the world requires the use of VPNs since there governments blocks many parts of the internet, also those who travel to those countries and still want to play?
    I recommend allowing VPNs only on demand by users put there names on a list and then you can check them for abuse.
    Blocking it all is too drastic in a free world.
    I would feel sorry for people in cases like that, but we will not start with an on demand thing and have to check them. Then we are back at what we do now. You have no idea how much time some of us spend on this project, searching and banning. It is ridiculous. I'm soon at my limit of it and this can't come soon enough. Just today I have searched a bunch more and banned 19 of the accounts for multiple accounts. last month i banned 84 accounts in one day. I also had a record that day, one guy having 27 accounts. I hope people understand that we need to control this before we go to 1.0 and that means we will not allow VPNs. For the ones who can't or will not login to services without a VPN, I'm sorry, but then we are not the server for you. It will actually be a very little part of the community that only have VPN as an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splntz View Post
    I have a slight problem with this. I work from home sometimes. This means that I need to VPN into work. Being that i'm home I sometimes play SWG while waiting for phone calls. This can reflect my works IP address. Can I give you my work IP and you guys keep it on file or something?

    Edit: i'd like to add that I have SWG on my work laptop as well, and sometimes will be at hotels and play, is this a problem?
    We will roll with this slowly, in the begining it will be about automated checks, emailing people when they show up on a new IP. Much like WoW and other games will do when you're moving your account around. It'll help with people who get accounts stolen etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walking carpet View Post
    You know that many countries around the world requires the use of VPNs since there governments blocks many parts of the internet, also those who travel to those countries and still want to play?
    I recommend allowing VPNs only on demand by users put there names on a list and then you can check them for abuse.
    Blocking it all is too drastic in a free world.
    I happen to work for one of the same types of companies! And I traveled 100k miles this year already! I'm going to be a live tester myself and the everyone can laugh at me every time the system bans me!

    Again we will roll this out slowly, we are deploying the tools now and you will always have the option to ask for an exception. But as Lolindr says this is a major pain for everyone in game and on staff. We must make it better for everyone involved. We will be leveraging new machine learning based detection technology and we will develop more of our own tech to make this easier for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolindir View Post
    This thread is about VPNs. Future ideas will have to wait, or be posted somewhere else.

    I would feel sorry for people in cases like that, but we will not start with an on demand thing and have to check them. Then we are back at what we do now. You have no idea how much time some of us spend on this project, searching and banning. It is ridiculous. I'm soon at my limit of it and this can't come soon enough. Just today I have searched a bunch more and banned 19 of the accounts for multiple accounts. last month i banned 84 accounts in one day. I also had a record that day, one guy having 27 accounts. I hope people understand that we need to control this before we go to 1.0 and that means we will not allow VPNs. For the ones who can't or will not login to services without a VPN, I'm sorry, but then we are not the server for you. It will actually be a very little part of the community that only have VPN as an option.
    Man your a good Hunter however I disagree about this VPN policy
    My point about VPNs is that many legit people have to use it ,there is Chinese players here that requires it and CCP tries to lock them down , now the Emu will block them down from the free world ,and theres about 12 to 15 countries that censor the internet , I have lots of knowledge in current world politics I know some will start saying its a racist decision and I dont want the Emu to be tagged has such.

    remember that VPN is the only window to the free world for residents of those countries ,People are not the issue its there governments indoctrination to keep there populations as dumb as they can , people must see whats out there to reverse this trend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking carpet View Post
    I have lots of knowledge in current world politics I know some will start saying its a racist decision and I dont want the Emu to be tagged has such.
    LOL
    You have to twist pretty hard to make a basic decision about fairness, server health, and following the rules into a racial topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hybridtheory View Post
    LOL
    You have to twist pretty hard to make a basic decision about fairness, server health, and following the rules into a racial topic.
    Im far from racist If I had the powers I would eradicate censorship worldwide so the planet could live in synch
    by blocking VPNs your blocking whole countries
    just pretend you live in 1 of those countries and your a legit emu player , see a broader picture put yourself in there shoes a minute or 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking carpet View Post
    I have lots of knowledge in current world politics I know some will start saying its a racist decision and I dont want the Emu to be tagged has such.
    I am sure a proxy server or private network could be made in the future for these people so they can connect, however.....
    Trying to phrase the situation to make it appear as it could be a racial prejudice motivated issue is a ridiculous statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hybridtheory View Post
    I am sure a proxy server or private network could be made in the future for these people so they can connect, however.....
    Trying to phrase the situation to make it appear as it could be a racial prejudice motivated issue is a ridiculous statement.
    No ,I think that the Emu staff dindt thought of all the implications before making this rule
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking carpet View Post
    Man your a good Hunter however I disagree about this VPN policy
    remember that VPN is the only window to the free world for residents of those countries ,People are not the issue its there governments indoctrination to keep there populations as dumb as they can , people must see whats out there to reverse this trend
    But we are so few to play from those countries, so nobody matter. A friend in Cambodia is using Shadow Cloud Computer.
    Without VPN, no Full Netflix, no order on amazon and many limits on youtube about politics contents and many many many other limits ...
    You must live in those countries to understand what limits to freedom mean.
    fortunately, technology often provide a solution at the end (if gouvernement doesn't shut down all internet).
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