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    06/26/2022 Finalizer Sunday Update

    Finalizer Sunday Update

    06/26/2022
    The SWGEmu Development Division
    • [Fixed] Stability issues
    • [Added] Celebration Event - Empire Day
    • [Updated] HealEnhance check for LD
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    Any hope for clarification on the undocumented change that we cannot buff offline characters now? I.e. Alts cannot buff their mains. It's not in the notes, so it might be a bug?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrhein View Post
    Any hope for clarification on the undocumented change that we cannot buff offline characters now? I.e. Alts cannot buff their mains. It's not in the notes, so it might be a bug?
    On a server where you can only login one character at a time you think buffing your link dead alt was expected behavior?

    It was a bug and has been fixed, you should see a doctor for a buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordkator View Post
    see a doctor for a buff.
    took the time to grind out doc on my alt to provide self buffing service to my alt toon. as i'd rather buf fmyself then fuill coffers of an AFK buffbot. we could even do that on live to an LD alt.

    again you blindside the community with your own shortsightedness and cul-de-sac thinking.

    thank you?

    Quote Originally Posted by lordkator View Post
    It was a bug and has been fixed
    was it tho? i mean honestly, was it? and no. the answer is no, it was not a bug.

    slow week on the updates so thought you'd curve ball this one in>?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordkator View Post
    It was a bug and has been fixed, you should see a doctor for a buff.
    It was not a bug. You could buff LD characters on live, especially when people had ****ty dial-up connections or bad computers with 1 processor and would crash, you could finish the buffs/wounds/heals.

    How are permanently overt Jedi Knights supposed to get buffs? Waltz in to a cantina unbuffed? You're retroactively punishing anyone with a Doctor alt who took the time and credits to grind one.

    Is the last time you played a video game back in 2003? I have to ask based on how this server has regressed, and continues to deteriorate with out of touch changes.

    This project desperately needs new leadership who actually play the game and comprehend it. And no, sitting your Dev toon afk doesn't count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLiFeR View Post
    It was not a bug. You could buff LD characters on live, especially when people had ****ty dial-up connections or bad computers with 1 processor and would crash, you could finish the buffs/wounds/heals.

    How are permanently overt Jedi Knights supposed to get buffs? Waltz in to a cantina unbuffed? You're retroactively punishing anyone with a Doctor alt who took the time and credits to grind one.

    Is the last time you played a video game back in 2003? I have to ask based on how this server has regressed, and continues to deteriorate with out of touch changes.

    This project desperately needs new leadership who actually play the game and comprehend it. And no, sitting your Dev toon afk doesn't count.
    And people thought that only SOE could put the FU in fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordkator View Post
    On a server where you can only login one character at a time you think buffing your link dead alt was expected behavior?

    It was a bug and has been fixed, you should see a doctor for a buff.
    Those Doctors that some people use a macro to sit and send a tell to the Doctor, draining their buffs.. And once they get blocked, they delete and remake the character and redo it when you're not ATK.

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    Can you still train your alt?, cough cough *whistles*

    I might have to get force persuasion after all
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    As we have said from the start, we want more interaction and not the ability to do it all yourself. Buffing your main/alt defeats that goal.

    This is probably my fault. I might have missed a line I should have added in the report. It is manual, so mistakes can and will happen. I'll have a look.

    Edit.

    Yes, I overlooked a line. I'll edit it into the report.

    [updated] HealEnhance check for LD
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordkator View Post
    On a server where you can only login one character at a time you think buffing your link dead alt was expected behavior?

    It was a bug and has been fixed, you should see a doctor for a buff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolindir View Post
    As we have said from the start, we want more interaction and not the ability to do it all yourself. Buffing your main/alt defeats that goal
    can of worms?

    i demand all those that loot stuff on their combat toon to not be able to craft it or sell it on their smith/merchant alt. they msut go straight to another person for interaction. how dare they do it all themselves!

    it's such a weak argument, you removed the ability to do it all by removing 10char. people have the choice to support a main char with an alt, and doc or merchant are natural choices.

    at this point you are trying to see who are the swg die hard fans that truly enjoy being shafted consistently that plain faced refuse to leave. i wish i could see admin forum again, i bet you are all having a right giggle in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolindir View Post
    As we have said from the start, we want more interaction and not the ability to do it all yourself. Buffing your main/alt defeats that goal.
    and a weak one it was, too!

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    This has always been the problem the staff (in the past lul) was trying to avoid with making changes, they knew that whoever got to decide would pick and choose what to change and when and what made sense and doesn't. Literally the game changes on the whim and emotions of like 5 people so I guess this is what you can expect when they let their values go down the drain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolindir View Post
    As we have said from the start, we want more interaction and not the ability to do it all yourself. Buffing your main/alt defeats that goal.

    This is probably my fault. I might have missed a line I should have added in the report. It is manual, so mistakes can and will happen. I'll have a look.

    Edit.

    Yes, I overlooked a line. I'll edit it into the report.

    [updated] HealEnhance check for LD

    This is just going to benefit the afk docs and not provide more interaction. Most likely these 24/7 afk buffers are multi-account abusers. Where else are they sending the credits to? or selling them? This only really helps those breaking the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fissile View Post
    can of worms?

    i demand all those that loot stuff on their combat toon to not be able to craft it or sell it on their smith/merchant alt. they msut go straight to another person for interaction. how dare they do it all themselves!

    it's such a weak argument, you removed the ability to do it all by removing 10char. people have the choice to support a main char with an alt, and doc or merchant are natural choices.

    at this point you are trying to see who are the swg die hard fans that truly enjoy being shafted consistently that plain faced refuse to leave. i wish i could see admin forum again, i bet you are all having a right giggle in there.
    Agreed. This the community should of had a chance to weigh in on this "bug" fix.
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    Oh my days

    After 19 long years this horrible bug is finally gone! We didn't even get to see it in the patch notes 

    Thanks for the clarification Loli rather than trying to brush a critical change off as a "bug"
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    It's actually a great idea

    The server will benefit from doc in people main temple - think world boss for example
    It will also dilute the quantity of pure combat toons that were made in Bas where you have enough toons to min max and we will see more TKM or Swords/DOC style temples we as saw in live

    I can see the change in playstyle required but its a bit like reducing my lots down. It's different but its better overall once things adapt to the new norm.
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