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lordkator
02-01-2020, 05:07 PM
Today we are excited to announce that SWGEmu is transitioning to a new phase of the project. After more than 15 years of investment by the original founders, we are now moving from the Development phase of the project to Beta as we march towards the much anticipated official post-1.0 server launch.

As many may have noticed TheAnswer has publicly declared heís taking a back seat on the project, and Oru has already been doing this quite some time. Vlada in his year-end update also bowed out with a long-winded, tear-jerking declaration (https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228680) of his love and devotion for the project.

TheAnswer and Oru are officially becoming blue glowy, they will forever be welcome in the project but the demands of their real lives will make it harder over time to dedicate the time needed to keep the project moving forward. Theyíll be here to provide wisdom, support and make fun of us when we do stupid stuff and cheer when we get it right.

Scurby, Farelli, and Lordkator have formed a new legal entity (In Delaware, USA) and are in the process of moving all contracts from the old legal entity to this new one. This means soon we will move the PayPal donations to the new account and will need your help getting the word out to subscribers on the old account that we need them to move their subscriptions. We expect this to happen in the next 30 days. Please keep an eye peeled as we transition we will need everyone to help keep the donations flowing to so the org will remain financially stable. This new legal structure will make it easier for the org to operate in the USA and avoid unnecessary taxes caused by the original legal entity being formed in Hungary.

Going forward Scurby, Farelli and Lordkator will be the council of three and will endeavor to move the project forward as we transition from development to beta onward to a post-1.0 world. We will all keep our same current roles and be officers of the organization going forward. We will continue to operate with the same separation of powers we have to date, including CSRís having control over bans/unbans, devs controlling what code finally makes it to the official codebase. Scurby will maintain the ďEye of Sauron'' role and we will continue to work towards more transparency inside staff and with the community. In April we will produce our first Quarterly financial update and will work to keep the updates coming no later than the last day of the month following a quarter-end (i.e. Jan 31, April 30, July 31, Oct 31) and include as much detail as we can without compromising project security or community memberís privacy.

Moving forward as we shift into the Beta phase of the project we will start leveraging Basilisk as the test server for changes that require large scale testing. A recent example of that is the multi-accounting detection tools and will include other changes over time where Basiliskís unique scale of 5,000+ monthly active users will help us test at scale. You can expect to see us test things like end-game content, camping issues, leveling, user surveys, email expiration, house cleanups, economy monitoring, and auditing. We, however, will not be introducing new content other than maybe some fun mysterious things related to the end of Basiliskís long run and teasing the coming of the new post 1.0 server. In most aspects, Basilisk will remain with the pre-CU behavior until we shut it down for the new official post 1.0 server.

We have a lot of exciting ideas on how to engage the community including in-game senate meetings to discuss game mechanics and up-coming ideas, an official process for community members to propose changes to the game. We will also create processes to embrace more community content contributions including ideas around allowing for new stories, quests and other content from new code to assets that enhance the game for everyone.

Stay tuned, over the coming weeks we will start to release more details about this phase of the project, and we will share our thoughts about whatís next, and how we plan to engage the community both as players and contributors.

Mobyus1
02-01-2020, 05:15 PM
Exciting! Keep up the good work, and don't hesitate to reach out for anything you'd think I can help with.

Omens
02-01-2020, 05:32 PM
end of the tunnel approaching....

Loc-nar
02-01-2020, 05:48 PM
First!!











/s

rlmartindale4
02-01-2020, 06:23 PM
Whoohoo! Congrats on the milestone. Thanks for your on going efforts!

Surrena
02-01-2020, 06:31 PM
Hype!!!!!

Ellyssia
02-01-2020, 06:32 PM
:approve: :cheerleader:

Way to go!! Ever onward!

Asifab19
02-01-2020, 07:39 PM
Great work has been done on this project over it's vast lifetime. It's a shame to see such dedicated devs are TA and Oru taking a step back after finally being so close to the end goal. Thanks to every staff member who has brought us this far. Can't wait to see what the 1.0 server brings us.

chily
02-01-2020, 08:29 PM
Great work, Thanks all involved!

Jaws
02-01-2020, 09:52 PM
Very exciting guys!!! Can't wait to see what happens at 1.0 and forward as we drift from 14.1

hotsplice
02-01-2020, 10:14 PM
Fantastic news and great work from the devs!

Arox
02-01-2020, 10:23 PM
You can expect to see us test things like end-game content, camping issues, leveling, user surveys, email expiration, house cleanups, economy monitoring, and auditing.Really excited to see what these bring.

TheMostInterestingMan
02-02-2020, 07:25 AM
Wow. Encouraging news. Looking forward to moving forward on a permanent server environment in the near future!

Fissile
02-02-2020, 07:38 AM
my name is fissile and i approve of this message

dromag67
02-02-2020, 08:44 AM
thank you so much for what all of you have done for the project! From the things Iíve heard on Lordkator and Scurbys
livestream this project is in good hands.

Impending777Doom
02-02-2020, 09:31 AM
Hi it's -Tom

Sqwd
02-02-2020, 10:51 AM
As some who is pretty much brand new to the game this excites me! Roll on patch 1.0.

xirad
02-02-2020, 04:37 PM
Thank you LK for that exciting update! And thanks to everyone who has helped keep the SWG dream alive!

Tomahawk
02-02-2020, 05:31 PM
thumbs up / big hug

Thrax989
02-02-2020, 05:58 PM
Congratulations on all the hard work and milestones achieved this is really good news, l Had one question about a very hard working developer who's name is never talked about anymore, seems a bit unfair to, his name has not been brought up for over the past year or 2, Where is the infamous Ivojedi at, last I heard he was in a bad car accident, he contributed quite a bit to this project and even worked his way up from a player to a Lead Core Developer. Any insight on if he will be making a return in the future ?

Scurby
02-02-2020, 06:56 PM
if u heard anything about Ivojedi it is merely a rumor.
Ivo is still around. He hasn't been active in development but that's fine. He still communicates with staff. I don't ask for his time, it's his to give.

jpadi69
02-02-2020, 10:10 PM
I have been playing for a few years now, love the game ans what you guys have done. I was an original SWG player when the game first started and I left when they did the CU. I am happy I can come back to the game I loved.

Khai-Han
02-03-2020, 12:40 AM
Thank you guys, your sheer willpower and love for this game have brought it back from the dead, and we're getting closer to the end of this long lasting journey.

Esquire
02-03-2020, 04:59 AM
Congrats, SWGEMU

Fedora
02-03-2020, 05:17 AM
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excalibur77
02-03-2020, 06:49 AM
love the news, cant wait for the excitement to come. Keep up the great work.

Doug
02-03-2020, 08:08 AM
I cannot wait for 1.0 to be released and we can all start the adventure from zero. It will be almost like going back to the start when SWG was first released. I take my hat off to all those who have helped it to this stage. This will mean me having to donate on a regular basis I guess - it will be worth it though

Alken_Ruushan
02-03-2020, 11:22 AM
Nice! I haven't been able to play much recently but I'm excited all the same! Though on the note of shifting towards Beta and not adding newer content, what is the news concerning JTL? (If it was cancelled or mentioned before, I might have missed it)

Fearvich
02-03-2020, 03:26 PM
They moved the goal post for JTL to after Suncrusher release, since it is a different type of game (Tick based 3d environment vs whatever ground game is considered). Probably hoping renewed interest will push it forward. I'm confused about the game being on pub 10, with the goal being 14.1, but saying the game is entering beta. My understanding of development lingo may be harming myself.

Mobyus1
02-03-2020, 05:27 PM
I'm confused about the game being on pub 10, with the goal being 14.1, but saying the game is entering beta. My understanding of development lingo may be harming myself.

There are 3 numbers that are tossed around quite frequently. 14.1, 1.0, and Pub#.

14.1 is the version of LIVE SWG the SWGEmu project is emulating.

1.0 is the completion of the SWGEmu project, where the ground game is finished and the new play server is opened up.

Pub# is just whatever Publish the SWGEmu project is currently on. There is no set number of Publishes before we reach 1.0.

Up until this announcement, SWGEmu's v1.0 was meant to be an accurate emulation of Live SWG v14.1... so the two could have been considered the same. However, now that we're moving into beta, it appears that our 1.0 will now feature some non-14.1 changes, which is exciting.

Hope this helps.

decastro
02-03-2020, 09:46 PM
Never give up. Never surrender.

Scurby
02-03-2020, 11:38 PM
Never give up. Never surrender.

cheers
1luv

algebuckina
02-04-2020, 12:09 AM
This is great news. I shall await my promotion to lead creative director of swgemu.

lordkator
02-04-2020, 04:21 AM
This is great news. I shall await my promotion to lead creative director of swgemu.

Sorry you canít have my job!

algebuckina
02-04-2020, 11:56 AM
Sorry you canít have my job!
Farelli confirmed it! I have proof!
https://i.imgur.com/TQm6EXH.png

Farelli
02-04-2020, 12:19 PM
Farelli confirmed it! I have proof!
https://i.imgur.com/TQm6EXH.png

I think you missed the joke. You didn't watch the entire Scurby interview. :)

khazad
02-04-2020, 12:32 PM
Congratulations to all the staff and promoters getting to this point. Eager for the future and liking some of the changes hinted at by the Scurbs in the Mobyus1 interview.

Adaso
02-04-2020, 12:52 PM
This is great news. I shall await my promotion to lead creative director of swgemu.

You can still apply for the Community Content Influencer position

vayman
02-04-2020, 06:59 PM
I have since moved on to "newer experiences", but I still keep tabs on the project. Congratulations on this milestone. I wish nothing but the absolute best for all involved; present, past and future.

/salute

luisscherer
02-05-2020, 04:41 AM
Awesome news, can't wait!

jasonajaqua
02-05-2020, 11:39 PM
Thanks you for all the time that everyone gives to keep the dream alive! Keep up the communication it is great! Yes bring back the mystery.

Misk Brebran
02-06-2020, 02:03 AM
Weeeeeeeeeeee!

algebuckina
02-06-2020, 11:46 AM
I think you missed the joke. You didn't watch the entire Scurby interview. :)
I did, and I choose to ignore the joke. I WILL be creative lead.


You can still apply for the Community Content Influencer position
ooooo, in game AND forum influencer. I like it!

Misk Brebran
02-06-2020, 01:17 PM
Scurby, Farelli, and Lordkator have formed a new legal entity (In Delaware, USA) and are in the process of moving all contracts from the old legal entity to this new one. This means soon we will move the PayPal donations to the new account and will need your help getting the word out to subscribers on the old account that we need them to move their subscriptions. We expect this to happen in the next 30 days. Please keep an eye peeled as we transition we will need everyone to help keep the donations flowing to so the org will remain financially stable. This new legal structure will make it easier for the org to operate in the USA and avoid unnecessary taxes caused by the original legal entity being formed in Hungary.

Hmmmm....does this mean we can write off our donations to the non-profit???

Never hurts to ask ;)

lordkator
02-06-2020, 02:36 PM
Hmmmm....does this mean we can write off our donations to the non-profit???

Never hurts to ask ;)

Sadly not yet, we tried but the IRS denied our first attempt at NPO status, we will try again but we have to re-think our strategy and potentially engage a lawyer that specializes in Open Source NPO's.

Misk Brebran
02-06-2020, 03:08 PM
Sadly not yet, we tried but the IRS denied our first attempt at NPO status, we will try again but we have to re-think our strategy and potentially engage a lawyer that specializes in Open Source NPO's.

Copy all, thx for the response ;)

ethaz
02-08-2020, 02:02 AM
oh ok

elpete
02-08-2020, 04:40 AM
Exciting news. Congrats.

Lolindir
02-08-2020, 11:30 AM
Exciting news. Congrats.Look who we have here. How are you?

bigevil
02-08-2020, 12:01 PM
Beautiful people still doing beautiful things. :) Big props to all the hard work from all the Devs, QAs, Mods, CSRs, Admins and others who have devoted so much time to our happiness. :)

We appreciate you folks always! :)

sumion
02-08-2020, 11:32 PM
Keep up the good work. Looking forward to 1.0!

stonehocker
02-09-2020, 03:59 AM
Definitely a long time in the making, amazing work and astounding dedication by those involved! I definitely appreciate it.

patchface
02-09-2020, 08:28 PM
this **** is taking forever

ethaz
02-09-2020, 08:34 PM
cya in a decade

lordkator
02-09-2020, 08:49 PM
this **** is taking forever

Learn to code.
Take all your spare time with your family and kids and throw it away and dedicate it to the project.
Write code and have people complain for years.



Then you can complain.





Until then, please be patient.

ethaz
02-09-2020, 09:18 PM
Learn to code.
Take all your spare time with your family and kids and throw it away and dedicate it to the project.
Write code and have people complain for years.



Then you can complain.





Until then, please be patient.
wow, if its such a huge burden why go through all the trouble?🤔

jakey112
02-09-2020, 09:41 PM
So so so excited! Good work DEV TEAM! <3

lordkator
02-09-2020, 11:49 PM
wow, if its such a huge burden why go through all the trouble?樂

Some of us are deeply passionate about this game... My SWG Story and why I donated today... (https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216279)

The hard part isn't the work, it's the people who blame us for not getting everything done in a week and think we're not moving fast enough.

Meanwhile doing literally nothing to move the project forward.

That is the hardest part honestly...

ethaz
02-10-2020, 04:22 AM
Some of us are deeply passionate about this game... My SWG Story and why I donated today... (https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216279)

The hard part isn't the work, it's the people who blame us for not getting everything done in a week and think we're not moving fast enough.

Meanwhile doing literally nothing to move the project forward.

That is the hardest part honestly...
so others who donate, stress test the servers, playtest the game and submit bug reports are doing "literally nothing" for the project and shouldnt be allowed to voice their concern? tell us more!

I think everyone's contribution should be celebrated no matter how small, and you should be a little less dismissive of other community members who, even though they dont code, still contribute in other ways :)

Tyrenio
02-10-2020, 05:16 AM
so others who donate, stress test the servers, playtest the game and submit bug reports are doing "literally nothing" for the project and shouldnt be allowed to voice their concern? tell us more!

I think everyone's contribution should be celebrated no matter how small, and you should be a little less dismissive of other community members who, even though they dont code, still contribute in other ways :)do you do any of those things? I don't see any gold bars, strike one...

Generally, those that do those things understand the scale of the project and how challenging it is... And don't make entitled-*** comments like the above

Lolindir
02-10-2020, 06:58 AM
Now now, lets calm down.

We all know that if we measure the ones contributing past stress testing it's a very low % compared to our player base. We know who contribute and we are eternally great full towards the ones who do. We are happy to have everyone else here too. Without everyone, we would not be a community.

ethaz
02-10-2020, 10:13 AM
Now now, lets calm down.

We all know that if we measure the ones contributing past stress testing it's a very low % compared to our player base. We know who contribute and we are eternally great full towards the ones who do. We are happy to have everyone else here too. Without everyone, we would not be a community.
i accept your gratitude :^)

Leylyah
02-10-2020, 12:25 PM
As a player on day 1 of Star Wars Galaxies in 2003, I'd say because of the great love they have for this game, the passion and commitment it. I'm still coming here, even if I don't play much. I love this game, have since I took my son to see the Original movie in 1977 and we both fell in love and waited with bated breath for the game to arrive. We weren't disappointed.

Fedora
02-11-2020, 06:16 PM
Man, the entitlement I've seen on these forums in the last few months is staggering.

Forget server wipes - it sounds like we need to wipe the community here and start over

Droptine1927
02-12-2020, 01:46 PM
Fantastic news. Just know that for every ungrateful troll that posts here, there are many many more of us who appreciate the passion and dedication it takes to pull something like this off. Keep up the amazing work! Excited for 1.0.

fahcup-
02-12-2020, 08:16 PM
Keep up the good work, you're scratching a nearly 20 year old itch for a LOT of people. We appreciate you all.

Praxi34
02-12-2020, 08:48 PM
Great work and well said LordKator

Special thumbs up to Oru and TheAnswer. Steering us through difficult and often turbulent times during the start and middle of the project. Without your dedication and passion we certainly wouldnít be here today! I canít wait to see the post 1.0 world. Iíve seen staff come and go since 2006 but I think oru, theanswer and LordKator are certainly the stewards of the project and it feels just as safe if not more with LordKator at the proverbial helm.

The community, itís members and the wider Star Wars universe is with you!

Ignore the haters, they always Guna hate

Keep fighting the good fight!

MadOne
02-12-2020, 09:10 PM
As a newbie, this is exciting. Great work, great accomplishments all around!

Adaneitor
02-12-2020, 09:15 PM
Sweet words, awesome now im hyped

divlas
02-15-2020, 08:33 AM
Sorry to interfere, I'm a fiscalist (graduate tax program Boston University)
Are you really sure about this move to Delaware? This is a great state for entities such as yours, however to leave Europe is creating vulnerabilities. Any move is dangerous.
May I ask what is your fiscalist plan exactly? I know we have little defense but...

I know about the deal you made years ago with Lucas, but I think to remember that they specified that as long as the project doesn't change, they won't interfere. Creating an entity, or an organisation is a major change.

May the force protect this projet.
Enmor/Hatchi

bigevil
02-15-2020, 08:45 AM
Sorry to interfere, I'm a fiscalist (graduate tax program Boston University)
Are you really sure about this move to Delaware? This is a great state for entities such as yours, however to leave Europe is creating vulnerabilities. Any move is dangerous.
May I ask what is your fiscalist plan exactly? I know we have little defense but...

I know about the deal you made years ago with Lucas, but I think to remember that they specified that as long as the project doesn't change, they won't interfere. Creating an entity, or an organisation is a major change.

May the force protect this projet.
Enmor/Hatchi

I'm on the sidelines for most of that type of conversation, and i wasn't at the meeting itself, but I don't remember it being that broad. A few more specific controls but I won't add info for info sake. Many more qualified than myself. :)

hawkes
02-15-2020, 12:08 PM
Wow, congrats all! And thank you so much for bringing back to us a game unlike any other. Once it gets into your head, no other game will quite do. I thought Iíd never get to play this grand old game again, thank you for making it possible!

armsdealer
02-15-2020, 03:58 PM
Thanks! Hype!

Oru
02-19-2020, 11:57 AM
Sorry to interfere, I'm a fiscalist (graduate tax program Boston University)
Are you really sure about this move to Delaware? This is a great state for entities such as yours, however to leave Europe is creating vulnerabilities. Any move is dangerous.
May I ask what is your fiscalist plan exactly? I know we have little defense but...

I know about the deal you made years ago with Lucas, but I think to remember that they specified that as long as the project doesn't change, they won't interfere. Creating an entity, or an organisation is a major change.

May the force protect this projet.
Enmor/Hatchi

The deal with LA was made back in 2006, when there were no entity at all. The currently used non-profit company was established in 2011 but it has it's own risks (https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218028) due to local rules and regulations.

vertwheal
03-02-2020, 02:53 PM
Thanks everyone who put in the years and years of time to make this happen. I have such nostalgia for this game, i'm glad it will be around because of your efforts.

psychosiszz
03-08-2020, 03:28 PM
Great news, keep up the good work!

Instapeace
03-08-2020, 07:55 PM
Ok, uh, so, when's this happening?

Mobyus1
03-09-2020, 03:50 AM
Ok, uh, so, when's this happening?

It's in the post title.

"SWGEmu, The Next Decade..."

Edit for staff: :heart:

lordkator
03-09-2020, 05:14 AM
Ok, uh, so, when's this happening?

The legal entity is in the process of transitioning now, please see the post: Please update your subscriptions! (https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229359)

The rest till be happening as we are able to meet our milestones, this will require Developer work, QA Teams testing, Community testing etc.

In other words: Soon(TM)

Instapeace
03-10-2020, 11:10 AM
So, somewhere within the next decade. Gotcha. Like others have mentioned, I'm so excited too!!

tippythop
03-13-2020, 03:41 AM
Wow! Never thought I'd see the word Beta!!! I've followed the project since Core1. I've kept an empty slot open in my server rack to one day run a precu swgemu server for some time now.

jasonr
03-13-2020, 04:36 AM
If your like me your running out of decades. Lol.

AleazarBrel
03-15-2020, 09:38 PM
Cool news - silly question do characters on Basilisk get wiped when it gets shut down ?

lordkator
03-15-2020, 10:38 PM
If your like me your running out of decades. Lol.

We're all counting down, some quicker than others! I'm no spring chicken either!


Cool news - silly question do characters on Basilisk get wiped when it gets shut down ?

Yes, the new server will be a clean slate.

We have debated on ideas for people to reserve character names on the new server. But we're not excited about just making that a blanket thing, we've had 425,872 characters created on Basilisk. But only 59,130 are active in the past 90 days. With that in mind, we're debating ideas that would allow active players to have reservations on the new server and maybe even guild name reservations etc.

Again none of this is fully decided but just to give people a preview of ideas we're debating.

jasonr
03-16-2020, 01:59 AM
Can't wait.

Instapeace
03-21-2020, 10:09 AM
Who gives a crap what happens 10 years from now with this game. This entire thread is like, 9 years too early.

Farelli
03-21-2020, 10:55 AM
Who gives a crap what happens 10 years from now with this game. This entire thread is like, 9 years too early.

So certain are you?

Fedora
03-25-2020, 11:43 PM
Who gives a crap what happens 10 years from now with this game. This entire thread is like, 9 years too early.

you've had an epic big stick up your *** lately my man

bigevil
03-26-2020, 11:00 AM
Play nice. :)

Mervent
03-29-2020, 08:54 PM
I'm still waiting for rifleman to use /conceal shot like live. I have been waiting since 2009. Once this actually works I don't care how long Beta and 1.0 take. :)

https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229458

oh and using camo.....

Farelli
03-30-2020, 10:40 AM
All AI-related, which is the current focus of devs and QA team. That said, RL concerns are currently rearranging time for some people.

Conceal Shot is ticketed here: https://www.swgemu.com/bugs/view.php?id=2774

lordkator
03-30-2020, 11:14 AM
I'm still waiting for rifleman to use /conceal shot like live. I have been waiting since 2009. Once this actually works I don't care how long Beta and 1.0 take. :)

https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229458

oh and using camo.....

Then join the testing effort on Nova (https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226327) because the goal of the new AI is to properly respond to things like /conceal and other combat nuances.

It's easy to complain, much harder to do something about it, which path will you take?

Pyjri
04-02-2020, 10:54 PM
Every fiber of my being is a grinning emoji. I will be keeping an eye out for the switchover on PayPal.

Thanks to everyone for their past, present, and future efforts!

lordkator
04-03-2020, 10:28 AM
Every fiber of my being is a grinning emoji. I will be keeping an eye out for the switchover on PayPal.

Thanks to everyone for their past, present, and future efforts!

Paypal already moved: Please update your subscriptions! (https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229359)

Pyjri
04-03-2020, 09:26 PM
Paypal already moved: Please update your subscriptions! (https://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229359)

Got it. Thanks!

As an aside, would the project still have received the payment if it had been sent to the old Paypal (as of March)?

lordkator
04-04-2020, 10:21 AM
Got it. Thanks!

As an aside, would the project still have received the payment if it had been sent to the old Paypal (as of March)?

Yes but going forward that wonít work so we need everyone to move their subscriptions to the new account.

Pyjri
04-05-2020, 07:17 AM
Okay, thank you for the information.