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  • Armor Revealed!
    By: Ashla, Posted at: Mon, Jul 21st 3:20 PM 2003, Last Edited: Tue, Feb 8th 12:49 PM 2005
    Rated 4.13 by 23 people

    All of the information here is gleaned from watching hours of combat spam. it gives me something to do while I cue up specials. I hear a lot of people wondering about armor, and most dont know how it works. I just figured it out recently as well.

    Im going to break it down by stats found on all armor:

    Durability

    All armor has durability. Most of us have seen its effects. Armor in this game seems to decay in some relation to the damage it takes. The more damage, the faster it decays. As the armors get better, they increase in absorb, and also increasse in durability to make up for it. Use a repair kit to replenish durability, but be prepared to break it and have to buy a new piece.

    Protection

    All armor has a an AC of 1(as far as I can see, prove me wrong on this) It will absorb 50% of all damage not listed in vulnerabilities PLUS any percentage listed in Protection. Say if you have 10% kinetic(this is a value found on chitin). Damage dealt is 100, the armor will take 50 damage plus 5 more damage. It will say "Blah blah armor absorbs 55 damage" in the combat spam. The offshoot from this system is that small damages get lowered by less than large damages. Which is partly the reason I didnt notice before. For most hits, it will look like your armor absorbs 50%, but at higher damages the secondary number is in effect as well. At first I thought it was a rounding error

    a. Special protection

    all armors have a type of damage that they are best at absorbing(bone: energy, mabari: heat and blast). I believe this is also where layers will come into effect later(when they work).

    b. Normal Protection

    this is where the natural defense of the armor shows up. All of the damage types that the armor absorbs are listed here.

    Vulnerability

    These damage types are what the armor will Not absorb. You will be hit for full damage with these types of attacks. Even if your AC is 1. Some very rare damage types will fall into vulnerabilities, that I can only see players doing. Have you seen an electricity attack from an npc? I havent.

    Encumbrance

    a. Health This number is subtracted from the secondary stats. It will reduce Strength and Constitution by the given amount. Effected mostly by Chestplates.

    b. Action Same as above, only for Quickness and stamina. Leggings and boots effect these areas the most

    c. Mind Same as health only for focus and willpower. Helms effect this area greatly

    Encumbrance will lower stats by a huge amount for good armor. Even experimented suits will have a large effect. I have a very rough suit of chitin right now, and my strength, constitution, quickness and willpower are dipping into the 100-200 range while my focus is like under 100. This will get better, but I would expect it to only halve, which is still significant(at least for a brawler)

    Remember that both creatures and players have armor. The above rules still apply. If you have high enough creature knowledge, you can see all of the stats that matter on creatures. To help you decide what to attack and what not to, as well as pinpoint the vulnerabilities. I assume most people that hunt have no idea what the creatures armor is, and wonder why their lightning gun isnt hurting the creature, or their new blaster of armageddon is only tickling the giant sand beetle.

    I hope this is helpful to some people. If it has been done befor I hope that i have added something to it. This is a good start. I will try to add an explanation of damage types when I figure out more of them.

    Please feel free to dispute my claims, or prove them right.

    Ashla
    Lowca server
    novice medic/novice teras kasi/master scout/novice ranger

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       why not zabraks?? Reply...
      Posted @ Fri, Mar 5th 9:42 PM 2004
      By: jangosbounty
      67 posts
      Score: Decent [2.97]

      it sucks that zabraks have low secondaries. my zabrak couldnt fit into a low quality suit of chitin armor. id like composite armor one day bet im worried that its will either be in the 50%-60% protection range or i can wear it. what can i do about encumbrence?                                      

       
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         RE: why not zabraks?? Reply...
        Posted @ Tue, Jul 13th 1:46 AM 2004
        By: dynamicdog
        11 posts
        Score: Decent [3.00]

        if you are more likely to get into pvp fights composite is worth the expenses but with my budget i dont have the money to to use it on fighting people i fight creatures so if you do to i prefer getting a high kenetik resistance for the defending yourself from creatures pluss it is good in pvp to, but mostley just when you fight brawler proffs i dont recomend spending that much money on a suit of armor to blow on proving you are better than someone else i recomened just using it to harvest good xp on high cons but then again normally in  groups a braler needs the armor

         
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         RE: why not zabraks?? Reply...
        Posted @ Thu, Jun 10th 2:43 PM 2004
        By: Tomshirk
        181 posts
        Score: Decent [2.67]

        Find an armorsmith who knows how to WISELY spend his experimentation points, and have some good money with you for his troubles.                                                   

         
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        Why do we fear death?
        It is the one common thread that binds all living things.
        We should emrace it with the love of life and desire for harmony.
        Or should we instead cling to life and diversity, at the cost of peace?
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       mama miya Reply...
      Posted @ Wed, Jan 14th 11:24 PM 2004
      By: Burketti
      10 posts
      Score: Default [2.00]

      swg definatly has the most screwy armor system or any rpg, mmo or otherwise. just scrolling through and hearing what everyone has to say about the matter is enough to make my head spin. i'm the type of player who just wants to go on some fun adventures with people (dancing under the rainbows and all) and it's a bit too much for me to have to take into account the emcumberance of the kinetic 5th percentile on the ubese leg warmer. i know some of you guys are lovin' it, but man does it make me yearn for ff's DEF stats. they easy as pie! and smell good to boot!

       
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         RE: mama miya Reply...
        Posted @ Thu, Jun 10th 2:41 PM 2004
        By: Tomshirk
        181 posts
        Score: Default [1.83]

        I heartily agree.  Of course, I'm against the effective armor vs. nerfed guns anyway.
        Even top-notch bullet proof will have a hard time stopping a direct hit by a high-powered rifle firing a full metal jacket.
        So the best armor in the game should still leave you dead against military weapons like, say, the E11.
        However, a full suit of midieval plate armor might be able to stop a musket... but wont even slow down even a light modern hand gun like a 9mm or .45 cal.
        So low-level armor should stop a CDEF (the equivalent of a musket) but not anything bigger like a DH17 or E11.
        Lastly, ANY gun in history will likely kill you instantly if it hits an unarmored vital area.
        So no armor = even a CDEF should kill.
        There's a little bit different for unarmed/melee. Even cheap chainmail will stop just about any melee/unarmed attack.
        There are supposed exceptions to this (the chink in the armor theory) but such precision hitting during actual combat is extremely difficult.
        I KNOW this is true: I own a hand-made, master-forged katana. My brother made some cheap chain out of ordinary steel wire. He was so confident in his armor that he had me test my sword on it. I have studied for kenjiutsu for years, and all I and my excellent sword could do is bruise him by impact.
        So ANY armor = melee-proof except for rare/master-delivered critical hits.
        Unfortunately, in SWG armor is buff and guns nerfed. So it absorbs a %... and is VERY confusing.

         
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        Why do we fear death?
        It is the one common thread that binds all living things.
        We should emrace it with the love of life and desire for harmony.
        Or should we instead cling to life and diversity, at the cost of peace?
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       RIS armor Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Dec 22nd 4:07 AM 2003
      By: vekbhch
      5 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      Just wanted to know if anyone had any info on RIS armor and how to get it.  Ive seen it and been told it had no encumbrance at all.                                                   

       
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       Slicing and Armor Reply...
      Posted @ Fri, Dec 19th 7:04 PM 2003
      By: StonyTangiwizi
      3 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      Ok i am a slicer and would like to say that the devs changed stuff and now slicers can no longer get 35%'s the max is 30%.  Also master smugglers get 30%'s more often but there is not much diffrence between a master and slicer. Bone armor is NOT GOOD AGAINST ALL BLASTERS! Bone armor is good against any weapon that does energy dmg such as a T-21 or republic blaster. It says what type of dmg a weapon does when you examine it. Composite is the best armor in the game because it covers evrything and usually with 50%'s even though ive seen comp with all 63%'s. All creatures do kinetic dmg so if your gonna hunt it is wise to go with chitin because it has resonably low HAM costs and can have very good kinetic protection such as my 48% suit. Comp is mostly the pvp armor. Tantel completely sucks. Ubese is a good second to comp. Padded armor vary's greatly depending on the skill of an armorsmith but can be very good too.My advice is only buy comp if you love pvp cause it is spendy and also wearing no armor isnt too bad cause then no encumbrence!

       
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       No it doesn't Reply...
      Posted @ Tue, Dec 16th 10:33 AM 2003
      By: Razira
      Scholar
      51 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      I disagree with the person above me, with my 40% Kinetic Ubese armor I can solo giant carrion spats and larger creatures easily at two handed 4, however one time while leaving my camp I forgot to put my armor back on... next thing I knew I was wondering WTH I was doing in the cloning center. Armor makes a big difference. I do agree that the encumberance needs to reduced or spread out more than it is now... why do armored boots effect the mind pool? :rolleyes:

       
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      - Razira Deathwind

      Zabrak Major in the Imperial Army
      Master Ranger / Master Swordswoman

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         RE: No it doesn't Reply...
        Posted @ Fri, Jan 14th 2:09 AM 2005
        By: TynoTeke
        2 posts
        Score: Decent [3.00]

        Ok like my thought actualy matters but FYI RL story.....I got a job were I had to ware steel toed boots, well I had good boots, but that huge steel plate made it impossable to flex my foot and by the end of the day i found it hard to concentrate, even after i been there awhile i still noticed the heaviness of the boot and found them uncomfortable... well i said this to say the foot is a major part of the body..why do you think foot rubs help you relax.

         
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       RIS Reply...
      Posted @ Wed, Nov 26th 11:19 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

         I am on the Kauri server (Chars name: Gho'ule), does anyone know any armor smith that could sell me RIS? I think RIS looks awesome...I want a suit of it for my wall or a helm to wear with my robe of honor (currently wearin a composite helm). I am a TKA/CH. And does anyone know a CH who sells Maulers and/or Grauls and/or Gnarled Rancors? Please post if u know.             

       
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       Armour? Reply...
      Posted @ Wed, Nov 12th 3:47 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      I use a full set of chitin right now but i am grinding for unarmed xp hoping to hit commando.  What armour would you guy sreccomend for a commando? I see alot of them in composite but that can'r be the be-all-and-end-all when it comes to armour, can it?

      Also, has anyone got a link to a picture of this RIS armour?            

       
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       armour wearing Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Nov 3rd 1:19 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      should i wear armour as a tera karian kung fu guy or not ???                                                                

       
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         RE: armour wearing Reply...
        Posted @ Thu, Jun 10th 2:22 PM 2004
        By: Tomshirk
        181 posts
        Score: Decent [2.67]

        lol... it's Teras KAZI, dude!  
        And yes, wear armor. You're a melee guy... melee has always gotten a boost in survivability by using armor. Armor is your friend.                                                   

         
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        Why do we fear death?
        It is the one common thread that binds all living things.
        We should emrace it with the love of life and desire for harmony.
        Or should we instead cling to life and diversity, at the cost of peace?
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       Really Cool Looking Helmet? Reply...
      Posted @ Wed, Oct 22nd 8:18 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      I saw a helmet for sale in the bazaar (but was too poor to buy it) and I've also seen at least one player wearing it.  The thing is, I've no idea which type it was!

      Basically, it looked a little like the Ubese one (with the visor slot) but didn't have the "gas-mask snout" or the "brim." Basically, it was a black helm with a single visor slot (in red/orange)

      Anybody know what it was?

      - Tyl

       
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         RE: Really Cool Looking Helmet? Reply...
        Posted @ Fri, Oct 24th 9:22 AM 2003
        By: Rador, Eater of Souls
        Scholar
        19 posts
        Score: Decent [2.65]

        That sounds like a Composite Armor helmet. They are black with hoses and a visor slot that is reddish orange. They do look nice.                                                   

         
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       Ris Armor Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Oct 20th 3:47 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      I have heard of RIS armor, but i have no idea what it is.  Can anyone enlighten me?

      folkler@cablespeed.com                                                                

       
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         RE: Ris Armor Reply...
        Posted @ Thu, Oct 30th 3:09 PM 2003
        By: Anonymous
        Score: Default [2.00]

        Ris armor is a new Type of Player armor going to be release next patch. Armor smiths will be able to get the schematic for it through a quest.
        I think it's cool looking, but others disagree.  It is crazy though. will be hard to obtain, that is a fact. need some crazy ingredients to get it.                          

         
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       Armor Reply...
      Posted @ Tue, Sep 30th 9:05 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      My character is a Teras Kasi Zabrak Doctor.
      He wears a full suit of Composite Armor, ranging from 52% to 66% effectiveness.

      I can squeeze into the armor with mind food or muon gold. Once I'm in it, I'm in it, with 400 standard willpower remaining for mind regens.

      Being almost a Master Doctor, with top quality Enhance Packs, I am able to raise my Health and Action primaries and secondaries to 2000 and beyond each.

      With this setup, and my ability to heal myself and use Equilibrium every 60 minutes, I have successfully tanked upwards of 5 or 6 mutant rancors at one time alone for two minutes at a clip, while my squad plinks them from afar.

      Armor is costly in all means, but when supported by proper stats, proper enhance packs, and proper strategy, it can make you into a serious damage absorbing machine.

       
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       Why not both Reply...
      Posted @ Tue, Sep 16th 11:47 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      Might I add that I run with armor that blocks my kinetic damage, and also where MK3 sheild generators for the energy. I am a brawler, and I taunt, get in close, and then attack in melee and heal also. While my pet, and my faction soldiers tear into the victim as well.                          

       
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       Dahem Salron Reply...
      Posted @ Thu, Aug 28th 9:48 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      Yeah gengen, great question. Seems no one added that little tid bit, or if they did they didnt go into it what so ever.

      If you have a decent set of armor, find a master smuggler ( one I use isnt a master but produces great effects is nefashu on Ahazi ) and have him slice all your armor. Some will charge you 2k a piece to slice it, some less...everyone is playing right now more or less for experience. I have found that if you are just nice, patient, polite and strike up a conversation as oppossed to sending the person tells over and over again, or just hassling them in general over how long its taking or if they can cut you a deal, that they will cut you one if your just laid back and cool about it all.

      Another piece of advice is try to get tips on who to use
      ie: nefashu on Ahazi server....so you have a little more piece of mind. I know the first time I had something sliced that I just paid 15k for was a bit nerve racking for me lol. But I truely have yet to hear of some smuggler screwing another player....but Im sure it happens somewhere once a day at least....no offense to any smugglers meant. Just there are unfortunatly dishonest people everywhere you go it seems.

      Anyway back to slicing armor, it can go either way so make sure you try to find a reputable master smuggler, I know they are out there...and get them to hook you up. Usually drops the encumberance on my stuff by 35% when nefashu slices my stuff. Master smugglers may do better.

      BTW if your on Ahazi and need a good armorsmith, Atock and ospreyhawk are the two best that ive heard of and their prices are very reasonable. I can get a chest and helmet of composite from Atock alot cheaper than anywhere else. Ive seen helmets of composite for 35k on some vendors, maybe thats the going rate if you dont know someone....I dunno.

      Just my two cents....

      Dahem Salron
      Ahazi server
      Home planet of Corellia
      AKA:TheRediJedi

      May the resource be with you my friend.

       
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         RE: Dahem Salron Reply...
        Posted @ Wed, Sep 17th 7:19 AM 2003
        By: Anonymous
        Score: Default [2.00]

        Good post, some humanoid npcs do have ranged weapons with light armor piercing, thats why sometimes it seems your armor is useless.

        When getting armor sliced, remember that slicing is random, you don't always get 35% no matter how good you are, and that the effect is random. The slicing randomly improves either the effectivness, special effectiveness, or encumbrance.

        As far as I know master smuggler doesn't make a difference. Anyone with slicing 4 does as well as a master smuggler.

        For those who think bone armor is useless, I have gotten bone armor to 29% against energy with very low encumbrances. Low enough to wear like normal clothing. Useful for just running around.

         
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         RE: Dahem Salron Reply...
        Posted @ Sat, Sep 6th 3:43 PM 2003
        By: Kriil
        2 posts
        Score: Excellent [4.50]

        This guide is correct in most cases, however, there are exceptions.  Armor does not always absorb at a base of 50%.

        Here is the official word on armor rating vs armor piercing from the official site:

        http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/content.jsp?page=Advanced%20Guide%20Armor%20Fundamentals

        I made this chart based on the info from that article:

        The top row is the Armor rating (All personal armor has a rating of light)

        The column is the weapon's Armor Piercing value: (Most weapons have a value of none)

        This graph shows how much damage you do with the weapon your using.

        none(0) light(1) medium(2) heavy(3)

        none (0) | 100% | 50% | 25% | 12.5%

        light (1)| 125% | 100% | 50% | 25%

        medium (2)|156.25%| 125% | 100% | 50%

        heavy (3) |195.31%| 156.25%| 125% | 100%



        The following weapons have an Armor Piercing value of light:

        SR Combat pistol, DXR6 Carbine, Elite Carbine, E11 Carbine, Jawa Ion Rifle, Tusken Rifle

        These have a value of medium:

        Laser Carbine, E11 Rifle, Laser Rifle

        And the only weapon with heavy: T21 Rifle

        All others have a value of none. Note that this list is for ranged weapons only. So if you hunt creatures (who mostly have a value of 0) or unarmored humanoids don't forget to add the armor piercing bonus to your weapon to find out it's true DPS

        So if someone attacks you with a t21 rifle and your not wearing armor, they get a 195.31% bonus to their damage, and you're toasted. Attack an AT-ST (heavey armor) with your scout blaster and it only does 12.5% damage, not a good idea.

        DISCLAIMER: I copied this from my post on the official site...I think some of the Armor Piercing values for the weapons have changed since then.

        Filia T'lath

         
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        Level 46 Cleric
        Prexus
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       WTF Reply...
      Posted @ Sat, Aug 23rd 1:48 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      I am so sick of seeing noobs running around in full sets of bone armor while hunting animals that do nothing but kinetic (melee) damage, having no idea that they have no protection against kinetic. I just type "/slap;Do you even realize that the only thing that armor is doing is lowering your stats?!" And they have no idea what encumberance or kinetic or energy damage is. I only wear chitin armor boots because I hate taking down my own stats. So armorsmiths, please warn people about the encumberance and give them some info about protection ratings.

       
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         RE: WTF Reply...
        Posted @ Wed, Oct 8th 2:59 PM 2003
        By: Anonymous
        Score: Decent [3.00]

        Instead of Biotching about noobs why not take the time to help them understand what they doing wrong.  If you are tired of noobs looking cool in armor then dont play MMorpg. Cause you not helping community by crying and wasting post space !!

        Ie: I am a noob to SWG and just getting the picture on armor. I have mostly Comp armor and cant even wear are full suit or I would cause I LOOK GOOD !!

        So why take the time to biotch here when yopu can assist the community in the game and explain there.

         
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         RE: WTF Reply...
        Posted @ Wed, Sep 17th 7:06 AM 2003
        By: Anonymous
        Score: Default [2.00]

        Some people wear Bone armor just to look cool or not get shot at against npc mobs. So don't call everybody a noob unless you know what they are thinking. A good set of bone armor barely cost any Ham and can stop most of stray fire from npcs shooting at you(as long as they aren't using blast dmg). My bone armor is all sliced also to reduce encumbrance. There are people who know how to play this game.

         
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         RE: WTF Reply...
        Posted @ Sat, Aug 30th 7:28 AM 2003
        By: Winesnob
        26 posts
        Score: Decent [2.61]

        Well... if everyone knew as much as you do right off the bat, the world wouldnt need a god now would it.                                                                

         
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       a Nice mix Reply...
      Posted @ Sat, Aug 9th 7:19 AM 2003
      By: NeOxJoKeR
      1 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      personally i take a nice mix of the crowd, since im a tks and a armorsmith hey! best of both worlds right. But since im tks , i take mostly kinetic dmg, therefore i make stuff like chitin and ubese for myself, nothing heavy or ham draining, but bracers, gloves, and boots. And they do wonders, just these little things take off 30 - 100 dmg sometimes, that save my arse, and i have peices of clothing that add to my stats in terms of defense, and + dmg, and such.

      So wear it depending on your situation, and wear light, unless you really wana save your butt from high dmg, id say stuff like ubese pants and jacket, those are nice, not toooo draining, also take your helmets to slicers, and get some lower mind costs. :)

       
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       Armor is good for everyone in combat. Reply...
      Posted @ Thu, Aug 7th 11:58 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      I am just a Novie Marksman (Expert Carbineer)

      after I put on my set of armor, I can solo some Rats Lairs with all White Con Rats spawns, which is difficult 9 - 10.

      Without the armor you are just dumb. Can't finish the mission with 2 people.

      Look for armor that has Kinetic Protection if you go hunting animals, terrorist or swoopers.

      Look for armor that Has Energy/Blast Protect if you are fighting some CorSec or Imp.

       
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         RE: Armor is good for everyone in combat. Reply...
        Posted @ Thu, Jun 10th 2:15 PM 2004
        By: Tomshirk
        181 posts
        Score: Decent [2.68]

        I soloed rat nests all the time w/o armor.  I just built myself better blasters everytime the going got tough.

        "When the going gets tough... the tough buy bigger guns!"                                      

         
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        Why do we fear death?
        It is the one common thread that binds all living things.
        We should emrace it with the love of life and desire for harmony.
        Or should we instead cling to life and diversity, at the cost of peace?
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       Armour Reply...
      Posted @ Wed, Jul 30th 2:44 AM 2003
      By: Kungfuzhou
      3 posts
      Score: Good [3.66]

      I tried Bone at first and found that against most Creatures I was Hunting ,I was not getting the Protection for the HAM mods I was Taking.Then I realized that the Bone Armor I wore had no Kinitic Protection (Claws-Swords-ect).

      Then I started to Hunt in my Finest Clothes. Looking Good with Full HAM Stats.This Allowed me to use many more Special Moves in Combat, not to mention Faster Regen Rates:Health-Action-Mind.

      Then I felt the Pinch on Missions : they were getting Harder and Harder. When I headed out From Town to tend my Harvesters i would get 2 Missions in that Direction and Make some Extra Creds also Harvest Creatures for there Resources and Loot Goons for Items . There Hitting alot harder..OW-OW..should I Run ? <activate Cloning Center>

      So I looked at Armor Again ). As I read it ,all Armor has an AR of 1:so all Being Equal I looked at the Other types of Damage Protection. I Fight alot of Ranged Weapon Mobs now and i need Defence Vs Energy (the most common RW Damage)... AND a High Kinetic Defence Vs Melee . I Found Ubese the Best Armor for me (at least that I can Find)I have a Chest and Head Ubese the 2 most Hit and  deadly locations. Each Piece has the Following
      :Energy 20 Blast 10 all other 19 Effectivness:
      I only Wear my Armor when I Know ill be Getting Hit.I Keep my Chest and Helmet Hot Keyed with my Duster, when I need my Armor I hit the Hot Key.

      My Creds worth to a Great Post Ashla :)

      MRK Darkstar
      Smuggler-Pistoleer-BeastHandler-Scout-Artisian
      Galaxy:Flurry (Son of Corellia)


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         RE: Armour Reply...
        Posted @ Fri, Aug 1st 3:25 AM 2003
        By: Anonymous
        Score: Default [2.00]

        Only Reason I see for a Marksman with armor is against Head Shots/Mind Shots.  

        So other than the Helm I don't see a reason for armor.

        Most armor Cost too much to start with. That, and armor like Gloves and Shoes provides almost no benefit while still carrying HAM cost.                         

         
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           RE: Armour Reply...
          Posted @ Sat, Aug 30th 7:18 AM 2003
          By: Winesnob
          26 posts
          Score: Decent [2.61]

          Nope..sorry but I am an armorsmith making chitin and I keep an eye on how much damage each piece has taken.  I personally (this could be random for all pieces and all people) have had my Gloves and Boots take the majority of the damage.

          I also agree for the most part with the above guide as a rule of thumb. Its consistant with what I have witnessed as well. And yes, the bone armor is only good for anti blaster and NOT kinetic.

           
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             RE: Armour Reply...
            Posted @ Wed, Sep 24th 5:05 PM 2003
            By: Anonymous
            Score: Default [2.00]

            Ok, I have not looked into it deepy, but I only have Chitin gloves adn they have been hit about 75 % of the time or more when I fight. I am using unarmed combat and fighting cretures. Those might factor in as well. Either way, keep an eye peeled for where you get hit.                         

             
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       10% failure? Reply...
      Posted @ Tue, Jul 29th 9:35 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      Im an armorsmith with tech level 2 advanced and chitin.  a 10% on any stat is not a failure. Maybe at tech level 4 master but when your trying to work up a ladder that requires 140000 exp points that you can only get by making armor takes awhile. I have experimented with using all 900+overallquality materials vs low quality. It makes no difference at all. The stats givin seem totally random just like when you experiment.

       
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       wookies Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Jul 28th 7:08 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      wookies cannot wear armour... thats the downside to them.. why do you think they get such good stat bonuses to start with? if they could wear armour too, there would be no balance to the other races and everyone would be a wookie!                                      

       
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       wookie armor Reply...
      Posted @ Sat, Jul 26th 9:52 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      Anyone know of any armor a wookie can wear?                                                                              

       
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       Tradeoff Reply...
      Posted @ Fri, Jul 25th 6:00 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      Once you get into Rank III and up of your favorite combat skill, it really becomes worthwhile to purchase weapons and armor made by highly skilled crafters.  I wouldn't even consider wearing any armor if it wasn't made by someone who could knock those HAM costs way, way down.

      As it is, I really don't wear it anyways - the Intrepid server has seriously high prices and as a Creature Handler my damage output (and ability to run away real fast) is more important than soaking pain.

      Those who complain that armor isn't HAM friendly need to grab some stuff make by top-notch Armorsmiths.

       
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         RE: Tradeoff Reply...
        Posted @ Thu, Jun 10th 2:10 PM 2004
        By: Tomshirk
        181 posts
        Score: Decent [2.68]

        Or experimented on by ANY artisan worth his salt.  When I'm making weapons, armor or ANYTHING on Bloodfin, I always knock down the HAM costs whenever possible.
        Since lower HAM costs to your weapons & armor means you can do more specials over time, they increase your DPS. When ARMOR has lowered HAM costs, your DPS stays high and you still have protection.
        So what if my Chitin only absorbs 10 (see above)? if it costs next to nothing to wear it, then it's a smashing success!

         
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       Armor is good Reply...
      Posted @ Thu, Jul 24th 11:59 AM 2003
      By: Playingforfun
      Scholar
      378 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      for tougher mobs and high end Pvp

      in the beginning all your fighting is weak lil baby mobs that hit for 40 tops and even up until advanced specialization in your weapon they will still be doing too little damage to matter, but i just made my advanced class and mobs are starting to hit for 200 and more dmg, my ubese armor is halving that right now which is a life saver, and i've been hearing horror stories about mobs that hit for 500 and more damage on dathomir and endor, i don't see it possible to survive those kinds of encounters without armor

       
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         RE: Armor is good Reply...
        Posted @ Mon, Feb 9th 12:50 PM 2004
        By: HawaiiDlehi
        4 posts
        Score: Decent [3.00]

        Nightsister Elders can hit for 10,000 damage with some of their special attacks... I'm not even sure that the best armor with the best doctor enhances and a combat medic are going to ensure your survival. :)  Hmm... 1/2 from armor 5,000... 1/2 from 50% effectiveness 2,500... Let's say another half from Skill Mods and damage mitigation 1,750... yeah I guess you can survive with enhancers.

        What *does* help?

        As you advance in your career you will gain various skills that let you naturally reduce the damage you take from different types of attacks (depending on your career choice). Look for things like Melee Damage Mitigation (for example, in the TKA tree), Ranged Damage mitigation (for example, under Pistoller).

        You also gain Skill Mods that reduce the damage taken. For example: Melee Defense, Unarmed Toughness, Ranged Defense.

        For melee skills that knockdown your opponent or prevent them from attacking (like Warcry). For ranged attackers, skills that delay your opponent from attacking like Suppression Fire, Warning Shot, and other skills.

        Multiple attackers will cause your NPC opponents to spread out their damage, this gives a little more time for healing between getting hit (sometimes).

        Pets are also used to keep an opponent from attacking you. Even Melee can give the pets a few attacks before stepping up *just* behind the pet and attacking. The closer you are to an NPC opponent the more likely they are to attack YOU. By keeping the pet between you and your opponent you can avoid getting hit at all (e.g., TKA can use Unarmed Lunge to attack from slightly further away).

        When you combine all these skills together, pets, highly trained(tough) melee, defensive skills like knockdowns and suppression fire, good doctor enhancements, and combat healers... ALONG WITH good armor against the type of damage your opponent is doing you can survive much longer.

        As an example, as Master TKA in my 54% composite armor Bolle Bol's hit me for about 20 damage (when they hit me at all, they miss a lot too). Enraged rancors I think do about 40.

         
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       Armor Reply...
      Posted @ Tue, Jul 22nd 3:09 PM 2003
      By: Shrei
      2 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      How sure of you of the base 50% armor protection? From my understanding and experience,  bone armor for instance will protect against energy attacks, but is completely useless in melee, as it doesn't have any kinetic protection. If you are correct, then it does have kinetic protection, and almost as much as mabari, which I really don't think is true.

      Can anyone verify either way? If you watch your combat spam while wearing bone armor, have you ever seen it absorb melee damage?

      If this isn't true, then much more emphasis needs to be put on choosing the right armor for the situation.

      Also, many people don't seem to understand the differences in the quality of armor, and how much of a difference experimentation makes. If you examine a piece of chitin armor and the kinetic value is 10, you need to realize that it is someone's failure. Most of the Ubese I have seen in the bazaar is absolutely pathetic. It is very important that you examine every piece of armor you buy, and don't sell yourself short.

       
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         RE: Armor Reply...
        Posted @ Thu, Jul 24th 12:01 PM 2003
        By: Playingforfun
        Scholar
        378 posts
        Score: Decent [3.00]

        from my experience with armor it only gives the 50% against damage types listed as a resistance so yes bone armor is useless for brawler and against animals but it will save your life in a firefight with humanoid mobs                                      

         
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       SWG armor Reply...
      Posted @ Tue, Jul 22nd 1:11 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      hehe, everyone looks at Armor in SWG as they do armor in other mmog's...which isn't how it is in the Starwars Universe.  Even from the beginning days of the pen and paper RPG of Starwars, armor was a trade off, you gain some protection but it takes away from other stats. I was happy to see that SOE captured that aspect of the game.

      Also, watch the movies. How often were the characters running around in armor? Not often at all, they wore regular clothes as they sped throughout the galaxy. This was the feel that SWG is trying to promote, their "emersive experience" or whatever.

      So armor comes down to, if you want to wear it or not. Or if you just see your character running around Han Solo style in normal clothes.

       
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         RE: SWG armor Reply...
        Posted @ Fri, Jan 14th 2:29 AM 2005
        By: TynoTeke
        2 posts
        Score: Decent [3.00]

        Good Thought. I wear normal street clothes most of the time cause the armor thing was so "hit or miss" as far as when you should and shouldnt use it ...plus I enjoy looking like I just steped out of a diplomatic confrance and ran in to a little trouble.  I have used armor and i have not used it and probably continue on switching by how I feel that day.            

         
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