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mauvros wrote:

Its a german word and means,  to screw over.

 

 




Same as "uber", we owe german a lot of words in computer gaming history.
 


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gera wrote:


mauvros wrote:

Its a german word and means,  to screw over.




Same as "uber", we owe german a lot of words in computer gaming history.
 



Except that "uber" really is German.  "Nerf" isn't! 

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mcpryon wrote:
They aren't making the game safer per se, rather a 'nerfed' item is scaled down so much that it's like a toy version of the pre-nerfed item.

For example:

Pre-CU doc buffs = MG42.
Post-CU doc buffs = Dragon 1/6th scale MG42.

Hmm...  another German reference.   This time to a famous WW2 era machine gun.   I'm beginning to see a trend here.
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Well, I don't know if using of "nerf" for grants predates computer gaming but for those applying for an NIH grant "nerf" is an acronym for NRFC.  This is the dreaded "Not Recommended for Further Consideration".  This is the worst sort of rejection and used to mean the grant application can not be resubmitted in its current form.  Suffice it to say a "nerf" is very bad.

 

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mauvros wrote:


BeefNoBroccoli wrote:

a nerf is a change to the rules of the game that is generally considered to have a weakening or negative effect upon the affected object(s). The term 'nerf', originating from the days of Ultima Online, relates to how Nerf toys for children use safe, soft foam and plastic to mimic sports balls and guns.

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"The term 'nerf', originating from the days of Ultima Online, relates to how Nerf toys for children use safe, soft foam and plastic to mimic sports balls and guns."
 
and.....
 
Are they saying that nerfing is making a game more "Safe"
 
Ive played UO and never heard this term used...
 
I think I first heard it when playing EQ Live
 
 



they're saying that just like Nerf toys were dumbed down weaker versions of the real thing, when something gets nerfed it's the weaker version of the original. 

As for UO starting it, that is what wiki says, and probably because UO was pretty much the first big mmorpgs.  Just because you heard it first in EQ Life didn't mean it wasn't used in UO (maybe not so frequently, but originated there and was passed on to other games, where today it is pretty frequent). 

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mauvros wrote:


BeefNoBroccoli wrote:

a nerf is a change to the rules of the game that is generally considered to have a weakening or negative effect upon the affected object(s). The term 'nerf', originating from the days of Ultima Online, relates to how Nerf toys for children use safe, soft foam and plastic to mimic sports balls and guns.

wiki FTW



"The term 'nerf', originating from the days of Ultima Online, relates to how Nerf toys for children use safe, soft foam and plastic to mimic sports balls and guns."
 
and.....
 
Are they saying that nerfing is making a game more "Safe"
 
Ive played UO and never heard this term used...
 
I think I first heard it when playing EQ Live
 
 


I have a 7 year UO account, and I heard the term "nerf" alot on the stratics and the old UO EA boards. (particuarly if you were a bard or a tamer)

The term PvE was a new one for me though, in UO it was referred to as PvM.

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An interesting question. So far as I know it's:

"Nerf (verb): To weaken a specific game rule, or specific character or item within a game, usually for purposes of game balance. Etymology: Modern Toys, refers to the Nerf brand name that uses a soft, compressible material to make non-hazardous toys."

Source, such as it is.


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From the original creator of this game Raph Koster (AKA Holocron)

http://www.legendmud.org/raph/gaming/nerfing.html



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mauvros wrote:

Its a german word and means,  to screw over.

 

 





funny i am german ... and i thought this word is of english origin

We do have a noun "Nerv" its just the same as nerve
and a verb "nerven" which means to annoy (get on somebody nerves)

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Where does the term "Nerf herder" come from?
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NewEco wrote:


mauvros wrote:

Its a german word and means, to screw over.





funny i am german ... and i thought this word is of english origin

We do have a noun "Nerv" its just the same as nerve
and a verb "nerven" which means to annoy (get on somebody nerves)




"Nerf" is French for nerve. Thus another reason to potentially hate the French.


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maybe my jedi could do with a Nerf foam baseball bat

do more dmg than my saber atm

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Yoshiyuki wrote:
Where does the term "Nerf herder" come from?



Nerf Herder
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Nerf Herder describes itself as a "nerd rock" band. It was formed in 1994. They take their name from a fictional occupation mentioned by the character Princess Leia in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back.

The band first got national airplay for their song "Van Halen," a parody tribute to the band of the same name.

Perhaps their best-known piece is the theme tune for the television series Buffy the Vampire Slayer, though anyone who was a kid in the nineties probably knows at least part of their extensive library of Power Rangers songs, including most of the series' theme songs. Many would claim that it is the song "Chewbacca, What a Wookie" but in fact this song has incorrectly been credited to Nerf Herder.

They also have some hits in the songs "Pervert," "Courtney Love," and "5000 ways to die."

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InsomniaxAU wrote:

maybe my jedi could do with a Nerf foam baseball bat

do more dmg than my saber atm




well if people are saying sabers got nerfed, that is exactly what happened...our lightsabers were replaced with nerf foam baseball bats

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