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Adamsky
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What Nador says is very interesting... Is that what you two did, Fiku and Vast? You still haven't given your customers an explanation...

 

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BLA BLA BLA, BLA BLA BLA.

They have already said that a CRS has investigated this and found no wrong doing on Fiku's and Vast's part.  It was not bugged, exploited or cheated according to the CRS.

Sorry for the "bla bla blas" but Im just really tired of hearing the argument of I can't do it so it's not possible.

This subject need to be dropped until a Dev or CRS says that it was wrong.

Otherwise you are just further harrassing a couple of **edit** good Weaponsmiths.

I do need to get out to vasts shop and buy a DX2 if he has any left.  Or a DXR6 would be nice too.

 

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09-16-2003 06:28 AM  

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If they've done nothing wrong, then it's time for all the other weaponsmiths to take a break.

ATTENTION: Fike & Vast can make make weapons with the same resources as all the other weaponsmiths that greatly exceed the stats of everyone else's guns. They're using some sort of "fluke" exploit that only they know how to do (Or they're lying & really are using duped Krayt).

The end result though, is that you can buy Krayt enhanced quality weapons at 30k from Fiku, so there's no reason to EVER shop from another weaponsmith for any weapon.

PvP also becomes imbalanced now, because anyone with a "fluke" weapons has an unfair advantage over everyone else who doesn't.

From now onwards, the only weaponsmiths that can properly compete, will be the ones that know how to use the "fluke". A non master, using the fluke, and not the best resources can make a better gun than a master using better resources.

Who cares about game balance, or the health of crafting tho, right? As long as you get your cheap Krayt weapons.


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09-16-2003 06:39 AM  

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yeah, Adune...no one can look past the barrel of their super fluke guns to realize what duped weapons could and will eventually do to the economy of the game......guess they're busy being to super leet with their uber weapons....its all good though, i get most of my weapons from Origins anyways...and while people are talking about his "super high prices", i've never payed more than 10k for a pistol and 20k for a really nice rifle or carbine...so much for that arm and a leg, eh?

hey, if you guys like fake stuff so well, i got some Tammy Halfager shirts to sell you, or even some Sean Johnson pants! just like the real thing!!!! only super cheap!

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09-16-2003 08:17 AM  

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Actually, to make your analogy correct, your "fake" clothes would have to be better than the name brands listed.

 

This has been an ugly subject on our server for long enough.  The real blame needs to fall on SOE for allowing either situation to exist (duping or a flaw).  Getting upset over the moral implications of 2 bugs is crazy.  I look at it as smart business, make em better and cheaper.  If the game code itself is bad, there is no written rule in the manual that says you can't use it.

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09-16-2003 09:00 AM  

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I'd like to assure you all that we are well aware of this situation and it is under investigation.

My sincerest apologies go out to all of you who have sent me PM's and have posted any useful information on the many threads that exist on this very issue. You have been anxiously awaiting some sort of response from us and we have not really provided it.

The fact remains that we are aware of this, we are looking into it, and when we have some sort of resolution, we will let you all know.

Thanks for your time everyone.

- Scott "Taurin" Snopel -

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09-17-2003 02:08 PM  

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Oooooh... first to reply to a dev!

Who cares. Give me money and free stuff. Respect.

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09-17-2003 02:09 PM  

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FInally! now will everyone please S T F U and let the man do his job?

 

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Let me say though. Leave it up to a QA guy to take the fall. Because QA guys break stuff. They do not build it and say it is perfect like developers do. I give you props Mr. QA man. Respect.

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Thank You Taurin.

And for those of you that proclaimed that they were cleared.

/em blow kiss

PWND!

 

09-17-2003 02:15 PM  

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sorrowblade wrote:

Thank You Taurin.

And for those of you that proclaimed that they were cleared.

/em blow kiss

PWND!

 





Don't declare victory. The investigation could conclude that it's a legitimate thing & everything is "working as intended" altho I find that extremely unlikely, because it would allow weaponsmiths that know how to exploit the bug an unfair advantage.


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09-17-2003 02:20 PM  

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Adune, I find it unlikely also, if what what Fiku and Vast was doing is cleared, then posting on how to duplicate the same effects on the Weaponsmith will have to be done, IE to give an even playing field to all weaponsmiths on this case.

This also means there would be no point in trying to hunt Krayts and everyone including armorsmiths will be able to produce Krayt "like" items without the use of Krayt drops, and the value of those tissues/hides/components would be useless.

Anyone know if there's anything else to hunt? Even if there was somethign else to hunt, given the nature of the bug/exploit, then you would need just one sample of the resource, and produce an almost unlimited supply.

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09-17-2003 02:26 PM  

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NotSevLaurence wrote:
Let me say though. Leave it up to a QA guy to take the fall. Because QA guys break stuff. They do not build it and say it is perfect like developers do. I give you props Mr. QA man. Respect.


Are all QA people as defensive about this as you are Chaw?  Whatever, as an engineer I say suck it QA!  Do our fixing!  I can't be expected to design something and make sure it works.  what am I, the freaking pope?  you'll fix it and like it.

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09-17-2003 07:22 PM  

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