That about sums it up.  One thing I might add, I was on Tatooine and tried to use a seeker droid on 'seek' option when I knew my mark had already gone to Kashyyyk so we could test.  Instead of the usual 'your target isn't on this planet' message you get with a seeker I got the 'too many lifeforms on Kashyyyk' message.  That would seem to be a bug as it's inconsistent with seeker behavior if you are not on the same planet as your mark.

This new system has the effect of making you burn through seeker charges (DE's will finally have repeat business on seekers) while also providing a safe haven for Rryatt trail grinders.

Yea, at least DE's will be of some use and make some money.

I think it is incredibly gay that the name doesn't return for Kashyyyk marks.  Boooooo!!!!!

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Red-Dwarf wrote:

5) If you use a seeker in either mode on kash, you get the "too many lifesigns" message and do not get any waypoints (and heres the important bit) DO NOT get a name

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FaceInTheCrowd wrote:

That about sums it up.  One thing I might add, I was on Tatooine and tried to use a seeker droid on 'seek' option when I knew my mark had already gone to Kashyyyk so we could test.  Instead of the usual 'your target isn't on this planet' message you get with a seeker I got the 'too many lifeforms on Kashyyyk' message.  That would seem to be a bug as it's inconsistent with seeker behavior if you are not on the same planet as your mark.

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It already works this way on live servers: if you launch a seeker and your mark is on Kashyyyk, you get the "too many life signs on Kashyyyk" crap. If the mark is any other planet (except yours of course), you get the "target not detected on your planet" message.

I realized this 2 days ago, it's a good tip if you want to spare 30 seconds before going back to mission terminal (since you can launch the seeker immediately after having talked to informant, whereas Arakyd needs about 30 seconds before search is started). You can even use it to spare some Arakyd, but it would mean that you wait for the seeker results before calling the Arakyd.

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Red-Dwarf wrote:

Don't shoot the messenger, please.

 

1)  If you use a seeker in either "one-use" (now renamed "Seek Bounty Target") or "infinite use" (now renamed "Track Bounty Target" but still bugged and giving infinite uses) and target is not on world you get the "off-world" message as before.

 

I'll look to see why the Track mode doesnt consume a droid.

 

2)  If you use an arakyd (actual droid now renamed "Arakyd Probot", not "Imperial probot" and the option to call is now "Request probe droid" with no sub-menu) then you get the planet, but no name.

 

Did it bug anyone else for 2 years it said "imperial probot base", and had 2 menu options that did the same thing?  Cleaned it up so it is a bit more obvious what you are doing.

 

3)  If you use a seeker in "one use" mode then you do get a single location waypoint and it loses target you also get "Analysing biological signature... Target:XXXX"

 

Glad this works, put this in based on Tanks feedback to us and running through it once the new way on TestCenter.  The terminal greifing should be eliminated as it takes more of a time investment to even get to the point of finding a name.

 

4) If you use a seeker in "infinite use" mode then you do get running waypoints but do NOT get a name.

 

Seek mode is the only one that returns name.

 

5) If you use a seeker in either mode on kash, you get the "too many lifesigns" message and do not get any waypoints (and heres the important bit) DO NOT get a name

 

Until the Producers decide otherwise, Kashyyyk stays how it is.

 

I am cross posting this in the bug thread in the hope they consider point 5 a bug and either fix the infinite use bug and give a name or make it a feature that to get the name you need to use a charge.

 

Thanks to the jedi who helped me with this test, and vredak for testing with me.

Glad to see the fixes put in work!  Hopefully cleaned up the system a bit so new BH's do not get confused with all the sub menu options.

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Blixtev wrote:

Until the Producers decide otherwise, Kashyyyk stays how it is.

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Message Edited by riotcontrol on 07-17-2005 03:04 AM

Blixtev - Kashykk is a content planet which is fair enough, allow jedi to enjoy the content without being disturbed by Bounty Hunters - however many jedi are using the planet as a grind haven which pretty much totally removes the risk from becoming a jedi ever.

Could I be so bold as to propose that you remove XP from Kashykk mobs? or reduce it considerably to make grinding on the planet not a viable option - that way Kash stays a content planet and Jedi don't get their haven.

Blixtev...you weren't going for this i'm sure...but....you really came off very...for lack of a better word "smart ass"

Almost mocking....not trying to flame just giving ya  a minor PR tip....just kinda felt that way to me, maybe it was just me though /shrug

But so you're saying, we can't get a name on kash, this is intended...and so without a name we CANNOT hunt jedi on kash because droids don't give waypoints...so are you saying at this time its an active decision (not a bug or unintended effect that's just hard to code-fix) to make kashyyk a jedi safe zone?

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Red-Dwarf wrote:

Don't shoot the messenger, please.

 

1)  If you use a seeker in either "one-use" (now renamed "Seek Bounty Target") or "infinite use" (now renamed "Track Bounty Target" but still bugged and giving infinite uses) and target is not on world you get the "off-world" message as before.

 

I'll look to see why the Track mode doesnt consume a droid.

 

Thanks, I know alot of DE's who would love to get that fixed (including me)

 

2)  If you use an arakyd (actual droid now renamed "Arakyd Probot", not "Imperial probot" and the option to call is now "Request probe droid" with no sub-menu) then you get the planet, but no name.

 

Did it bug anyone else for 2 years it said "imperial probot base", and had 2 menu options that did the same thing?  Cleaned it up so it is a bit more obvious what you are doing.

 

Always nice to clean things up, the little things do add that bit of spit and polish to the game

 

3)  If you use a seeker in "one use" mode then you do get a single location waypoint and it loses target you also get "Analysing biological signature... Target:XXXX"

 

Glad this works, put this in based on Tanks feedback to us and running through it once the new way on TestCenter.  The terminal greifing should be eliminated as it takes more of a time investment to even get to the point of finding a name.

 

Agreed, I think it's a good trade off between getting the name and preventing 'gank' squads.

 

4) If you use a seeker in "infinite use" mode then you do get running waypoints but do NOT get a name.

 

Seek mode is the only one that returns name.

 

Cool, thanks for confirming that

 

5) If you use a seeker in either mode on kash, you get the "too many lifesigns" message and do not get any waypoints (and heres the important bit) DO NOT get a name

 

Until the Producers decide otherwise, Kashyyyk stays how it is.

 

Hmm, can you ask them to add the name (not the wp, I understand that's too much time to code) - or have a bigger meeting to discuss making Kash a quest only planet (no xp or xp-loss on world). I'll understand if you can't.

 

I am cross posting this in the bug thread in the hope they consider point 5 a bug and either fix the infinite use bug and give a name or make it a feature that to get the name you need to use a charge.

 

Thanks to the jedi who helped me with this test, and vredak for testing with me.

Glad to see the fixes put in work!  Hopefully cleaned up the system a bit so new BH's do not get confused with all the sub menu options.

Thanks, Blix, and thanks for taking time on Sat to pop in and communicate with us

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Red-Dwarf wrote:

Don't shoot the messenger, please.

1) If you use a seeker in either "one-use" (now renamed "Seek Bounty Target") or "infinite use" (now renamed "Track Bounty Target" but still bugged and giving infinite uses) and target is not on world you get the "off-world" message as before.

I'll look to see why the Track mode doesnt consume a droid.

2) If you use an arakyd (actual droid now renamed "Arakyd Probot", not "Imperial probot" and the option to call is now "Request probe droid" with no sub-menu) then you get the planet, but no name.

Did it bug anyone else for 2 years it said "imperial probot base", and had 2 menu options that did the same thing? Cleaned it up so it is a bit more obvious what you are doing.

3) If you use a seeker in "one use" mode then you do get a single location waypoint and it loses target you also get "Analysing biological signature... Target:XXXX"

Glad this works, put this in based on Tanks feedback to us and running through it once the new way on TestCenter. The terminal greifing should be eliminated as it takes more of a time investment to even get to the point of finding a name.

4) If you use a seeker in "infinite use" mode then you do get running waypoints but do NOT get a name.

Seek mode is the only one that returns name.

5) If you use a seeker in either mode on kash, you get the "too many lifesigns" message and do not get any waypoints (and heres the important bit) DO NOT get a name

Until the Producers decide otherwise, Kashyyyk stays how it is.

I am cross posting this in the bug thread in the hope they consider point 5 a bug and either fix the infinite use bug and give a name or make it a feature that to get the name you need to use a charge.

Thanks to the jedi who helped me with this test, and vredak for testing with me.

Glad to see the fixes put in work! Hopefully cleaned up the system a bit so new BH's do not get confused with all the sub menu options.

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