My apologies if this has been brought up before....
I remember reading somewhere that a Dev said that it would be possible for a non-combat character to unlock without ever having to participate in combat and vice versa. So...
Has anyone ever unlocked by doing only combat professions (CP) or only non-combat professions (NCP)?
If the Devs statement is true then it probably means that our professions for unlocking are arranged as follows - 5 pairs of professions. Each pair contains a CP and a NCP. When you open a holocron it looks at the pairs and gives you a random profession. That's why holocrons normally give you a mix, without any sort of pattern (not that there is any).
This explains why some people can open their 4th holo, complete a bunch of professions, have another holo go silent, complete their 4th, and still not unlock. Chances are they just completed the other profession the 4th holocron's pair. Or something along those lines...
If this is true then it is possible to unlock by only completing 16 professions. Since there are 32 professions - 16 CPs and 16 NCPs, your grind time could be cut in half.
I think that non-combat professions are easier to grind since in most cases you only have to factor in time and resources or in the case of entertainer professions, just time.
I never said that it wasn't 5 out of 5 or 6 out of 6, or even x out of (x+n). I was just wondeing if you *have* to do both combat and non-combat professions in order to unlock.
Having done several non-combat professions already (because of holos and because they were easy to do) I was trying to find the shortest path.
Its RANDOM we have had people unlock on all entertainer and some medical professions. There is no mystical pattern people, the dev's have stated as much.
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Eldrikk wrote: Its RANDOM we have had people unlock on all entertainer and some medical professions. There is no mystical pattern people, the dev's have stated as much.
I think you guys might be missing the point of my message.
I'm not saying that it isn't random - I think it is. What I'm trying to determine is if a statement a dev made is true or not. The statement was something along the lines of "non-combat people will still be able to unlock without ever having to do a combat profession." I believe a dev made this statement at some point - possible pre-holo. So, it could be a lie or it could now be false because of the holocrons.
However, if it is true then the way to unlock could still be RANDOM. However, it could be coming from a pool that is slightly smaller than 32 professions.
Also, saying that someone didn't unlock until after he mastered 30 professions doesn't prove or disprove anything unless he had mastered all of one kind of profession (either combat or non-combat) and still didn't unlock. If he was mastering a "mix" of professions all that proves is that he is unlucky.
Can anyone address the question I asked without telling me again that everything is RANDOM? I've heard enough about that and I already believe it. I'm just trying to determine the "pool" that the the RANDOM professions are pulled from.
Eldrikk, this isn't a flame. It's just frustrating when someone states something that I already know and agree with. There seems to be a trend now that whenever anyone posts an idea about unlocking people just tell the person that it's all RANDOM and don't even think about the theory itself.
***Hopefully, I've used the word RANDOM enough in this post to satisfy everyone who wants to tell me that everything is RANDOM ***
You'll notice that he mastered only 15 combat professions. My bet is that if he would have mastered all 16 of them and not Architect he would have unlocked. However, in this case he mastered 15 non-combat professions. The last one of which unlocked.
Let individuals, who believe there might be a pattern, post in peace. Some, not all, who believe it is a random thing, seem like they are trying to regulate what topics people are allowed to post about on this forum. I believe it's random too. But I don't step in and ask them to stop the "Is there a pattern" posts. These boards regulated by SWG only.
Let individuals, who believe there might be a pattern, post in peace. Some, not all, who believe it is a random thing, seem like they are trying to regulate what topics people are allowed to post about on this forum. I believe it's random too. But I don't step in and ask them to stop the "Is there a pattern" posts. These boards regulated by SWG only.
I did a bit more research and found some interesting things:
1) Those who unlocked with a low number of professions tended to "focus" on Combat professions or non-combat professions. By "focus" I mean that there was more (by +1 or 2) of one than the other.
2) Members of the 20+ club and other people who took a long time to master seem to jump between professions without any focus on one type of professions. By this I mean they might master Carbineer, Merchant, Brawler, Artisan, etc... In other words, they seem to be doing both combat and non-combat professions.
I've decided that since we have a limited time before the devs take holos out of the game and probably change the path to Jedi I'll try ot master all of the non-combat professions before doing another combat one.
Its acutally 6 out of 8 randomly selected proffessions. It use to be 5 out of 8 but they changed it to 6 right after the Christmas Holo give aways. I know this to be true. Plus that is why he unlocked on number 30 his last 2 remaining proffessions would have unlocked him just the same, because they were number 7 and 8.
Let individuals, who believe there might be a pattern, post in peace. Some, not all, who believe it is a random thing, seem like they are trying to regulate what topics people are allowed to post about on this forum. I believe it's random too. But I don't step in and ask them to stop the "Is there a pattern" posts. These boards regulated by SWG only.
Respectfully,
First of all, he NEVER said there was a pattern. This person is only asking if it is truely possible to unlock having never fought. And the question was answered when somebody gave an example of someone who did.
Second, the "pattern" and "guess my holo" threads DO need to be regulated, if not disposed of or banned. Once upon a time, there weren't that many of them. Now every other thread is about patterns or desperate idiots who can't figure out that they should spend more time playing and less time looking for a shortcut. Not only that, but they are confusing to the non-educated and are likely to start waves of unfounded rumors. (Which they tend to do, like it or not. They have been doing it a lot recently.)
The point needs to be gotten across that PROFESSIONS ARE RANDOM. Not only are they random, but completely so. Until somebody steps in and starts deleting/closing threads, the insanity will continue, the rumors will spread, and headaches will get worse.
Trying to find a good post in this forum is looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack. And despite what people say, the search function is mostly useless. It will say there are no matches to posts you know exist. It also lacks a feature to search by date. Also useless.
Peace? There will be none until the rumor threads go away.
Basically, I was just trying to prove if a Devs statement was true or not while also trying to narrow my focus a bit.
I did a lot of reserch (looking through threads) and I noticed a few things. The stuff I posted above.
I think that profession selection is random BUT I think it's random within set paramters. One of these is proven - you should never get politician as your profession. The other, my theory is that there are two paths you can take - combat or non-combat. Of coruse, this is all based on the statement of a dev and we aren't sure how reliable they are.
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