There has been an outcry on the forums for a roll back. As i understand the term Rollback it would mean rerurning to the old system and scrapping everything that happened since the NGE.
Please clearly state weather this is even possible and discribe what the end results would be if it were?
I will jump in and answer this honestly:
We are not doing a roll back. We are not planning a roll back. We are not discussing a roll back. Once again, we are not doing a roll back.
Message Edited by Dev-Vapor on 03-24-200603:26 PM
I think what you meant to say was "We're not doing a rollback"
JetStrike wrote: Smed, could you increase the XP made off of killing creatures, OR add quest xp to terminal missions?
at least until there are more quests added to the game, it would be very nice for us all, the xp nerf on kashyyyk was a kick in the teeth for all player's below lvl 60.
Smed please take a look at this post.
please smed, also consider Quest XP for space quests.
sorry to bump my own post again
Although this isn't the fix you guys are looking for, it at least makes the game bearable until there is enough quests in the game
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system. ...and making SWG a better place to be. Your voice counts!
We recognize that the current profession system doesn't allow for any real level of character differentiation. As such, we're currently working on an "Expertise" system, that grants the players "points" to spend on specialization. The expertise system gives the profession system a similar feel to what we had pre-nge as far as character customization goes. The tech for this system is being developed for the next publish (this won't be visible to you guys). The publish after that, we're looking at pushing out the first two professions's worth of expertise trees, with two professions targeted for every publish after that. Generally speaking, we'll have three trees for each profession to choose from, including a GCW tree and a "path" tree that will hold things like "dark" and "light" side powers for Jedi, for instance (or droid specializtion, vs poisons for Bounty hunters - for instance).
That's the plan.
Thanks for filling us in. This response and your one about PvP look promising!
Helios_SOE wrote: The reverse engineering system planned for the trader revamp will replace things like clothing and armor attachments. In the mean time, it's unlikely that we will add content that will be replaced with an upcoming publish. So the short answer is we don't plan on adding too much to trader until we do their revamp.
Ok - Here is the problem with the proposed RE system - IT ISN'T CRAFTING. Look, RE can be a fun little game for people, and it does work. But is isn't crafting.
Here is what crafting is:
Locating resources with good stats.
Finding some chef foods or an entertainer buff to help make better items.
Working with a customer to make a component/item that fit their needs.
Having pride in making good items - and trying to best yourself.
Here is what RE'ing is:
Combat guy loot camps or hunts for days and days to get items with good stats.
Combat guy takes loot to crafter.
Crafter dumps their items in an RE tool and an item is spit out.
Now, Smed, Devs - You tell me. Which version do you think is more fun for the crafter?
Y i v v i t s
My words of wisdom to the developers: Fix, Improve, Never take away.
Listen to "Star Wars Galaxies with Yivvits and MrBubble"
This type of no hold barred conversation between players and dev's is long overdue, and very welcomed. Thank you for this.
Now, onto my bribery. I will fedex the first dev who will respond to these three questions a 12 pack of heineken, or similar brew. No joke.
1. Mando armor color issues - Droid engineer palette change to match Tailor and Armorsmith - or - Armor recolor tool.
2. House decorating option - Allow us to rotate objects on the x y and (Z) planes. Like all the objects in Nym's GH for example.
3. Imperial Royal Guard Uniform - any chance of this hitting the game? Even if its not armor stat'd (that would be awesome), or a loot drop like the Black Sun Helmet in frequency.
I know there are more pressing issues, and many other questions, I have a full 2 page word doc I add to daily on things I like about the game or dislike.
Remember dev's the brews on me if you chime in. Thanks :-)
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Smed, why is it that the dev team and you are always avoiding this one question?
Will we ever see Clothing and Armor Attachments drop again? Crafters right now are getting screwed because they can't get any more experimentation points since they aren't dropping.
Someone from the dev team please answer this question.
Smed
The reverse engineering system planned for the trader revamp will replace things like clothing and armor attachments. In the mean time, it's unlikely that we will add content that will be replaced with an upcoming publish. So the short answer is we don't plan on adding too much to trader until we do their revamp.
So why should the crafters continue to pay until we get our revamp in 6-8 months?
And is the RE system all that is planned for crafters?
The question is will anyone be talking to us about what is being worked on for crafters before it is set in stone and if so when will that be? We need information.
I just want to make sure that you realize that right now I and many other crafters see no reason why we should keep paying for this game until publish 32. Tell us where we are headed.
I know the armor restrictions being dropped will help armorsmiths (thought it can be argued that the loot drops will cancel out any bennefit there) but what about the other crafting professions? Is there any information that you can give us about what is going to keep us here?
Here is the state of crafting as I see it. Most of this will be DE centered because it is my main profession.
Right now crafters feel very unloved. We have been combined into professions that some of us have no interest in playing (eg. DE combined with a limited version of WS). We have no substantial source of repeat business, and repair tools alone will not solve that problem.
Several of the modules that were introduced to DE with the "droid invasion" no longer have a purpose, some of them haven't worked right from the beginning.
All crafting professions have bugs that have been around since launch! Almost 33 months now. http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=tradereng&message.id=6802#M6802
I know the devs want to avoid the passionate discussions but they need to remember that they caused the passion by nerfing and ignoring us for so long. The only way to begin to have rational disussions is to start giving us information. Include at least some trader love for each sub-profession in each publish until our revamp. Give us new usefull schematics.
When you do add new schematics to the game please add them in a way that crafters can get without paying for them. That means not loot drop schematics and not cube combos unless crafters have a way of aquiring the glowing items without combat and without buying them from combatants. A little bit of loot drop and cube combos are fine but don't make them all that way.
We would love it if we could do non combat quests that have either a permanent schematic as a reward or a repeatable quest with limited use schematics. By non combat quests we are not talking about just delivery missions or the crafting missions from the terminals either. That can be incorporated in some way but we want an immersive Star Wars experience too. There have been several good ideas of ways that crafter quests could be implimented and if you started a thread asking for ideas I know you would get more than you could ever use.
And please stop blaming the traders for our current situation, TH said that the traders were only focussing on high end items (which many have disagreed with) and instead of talking with the crafters to come up with a solution you have started cutting us out of the game with loot .
Please help us.
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Why take away crafting spice? I enjoyed it and if some smugglers didnt they didnt have to.
Why take away slicing - same? I enjoyed it and if some smugglers didn't they didn'y have to.
Why take away bases - I enjoyed grouping with friends on a regular basis for this and now vets are left with nothing execpt pvp for the "GCW"
Why take away faction pets? They werent that good anyway...but most enjoyed them.
Slicing type gameplay will return with the reverse-engineering game for traders. GCW bases (not to be confused with battlefields) will be making a combeback in an upcoming publish. One of the systems guys is looking into updating these as we speak. Faction pets are coming back as part of GCW expertise trees (see my post above).
YES! Thank you! I feel partially redeemed.
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I'm going to ask this for the 4th time now, hoping you'll shed some light on this. I'm a day 1 (beta 3) vet, so I'm hoping you'll answer this for the sake of a long time vet.
You mentioned the possibility of guilds having their own capital starships such as star destroyers. I'd like to know what is the status of capital ships given that there is now no expansion on the horizon. Will we be seeing them implemented as free content? What about combat vehicles such as AT-ATs (which I've yet to see in a combat role in 3 years)?
If we got to the point where we had the time to do this, I suspect it would be an expansion. It was in the plans for the future. Right now we're focused on the core game and making it better.
What you said would be cool.. and it's a dream of ours and has been for a long time!
We recognize that the current profession system doesn't allow for any real level of character differentiation. As such, we're currently working on an "Expertise" system, that grants the players "points" to spend on specialization. The expertise system gives the profession system a similar feel to what we had pre-nge as far as character customization goes. The tech for this system is being developed for the next publish (this won't be visible to you guys). The publish after that, we're looking at pushing out the first two professions's worth of expertise trees, with two professions targeted for every publish after that. Generally speaking, we'll have three trees for each profession to choose from, including a GCW tree and a "path" tree that will hold things like "dark" and "light" side powers for Jedi, for instance (or droid specializtion, vs poisons for Bounty hunters - for instance).
That's the plan.
Excellent!
A question though on how you intend for this to work... Will you be able to freely drop and change these skills, or will they be "set in stone" on selection? I think some sort of system whereby you can spend credits and "respec" your skill points would be a great thing, and would let people change their characters as their tastes change.
For example: I have always been a Rebel player, and a Light side Jedi (my pre-NGE template reflected that, my being a Lighstaber Master rather than a Powers Master). What if I fall to the "dark side" and (gasp) went Imperial? Would I be able to change those skills to support darkside powers (such as lightning and choke) away from the lightside support set I am certain to initially change?
Another idea:
Allow Entertainers (via Image Design) respec these skills for you! (A nice way to make entertainers viable again)
There has been an outcry on the forums for a roll back. As i understand the term Rollback it would mean rerurning to the old system and scrapping everything that happened since the NGE.
Please clearly state weather this is even possible and discribe what the end results would be if it were?
I will jump in and answer this honestly:
We are not doing a roll back. We are not planning a roll back. We are not discussing a roll back. Once again, we are not doing a roll back.
Message Edited by Dev-Vapor on 03-24-200603:26 PM
I think what you meant to say was "We're not doing a rollback"
Clarity is so important!
Smed
so you're not doing a Rollback....
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Helios_SOE wrote: Yes, we have a large scale GCW battleground as well as a PvP leaderboard and rewards/advancement system in the pipe.
Helios_SOE wrote: We recognize that the current profession system doesn't allow for any real level of character differentiation. As such, we're currently working on an "Expertise" system, that grants the players "points" to spend on specialization. The expertise system gives the profession system a similar feel to what we had pre-nge as far as character customization goes. The tech for this system is being developed for the next publish (this won't be visible to you guys). The publish after that, we're looking at pushing out the first two professions's worth of expertise trees, with two professions targeted for every publish after that. Generally speaking, we'll have three trees for each profession to choose from, including a GCW tree and a "path" tree that will hold things like "dark" and "light" side powers for Jedi, for instance (or droid specializtion, vs poisons for Bounty hunters - for instance).
Amazing. Exactly what we need! I hope this all plays out well.
Which is all well and dandy, but we've had 'jam tomorrow' posts since the NGE hit (and before, but I'm cutting you a break here).
Looks like I'll be playing MxO more than SWG till all that lot appears then. Now how bad have things got to be to force a guy into doing that....
1OWND1 wrote: BTW!!! TELL LUCASARTS TO UPDATE THIER WEBSITE ON TRIALS OF OBI-WAN..ITS STILL ADVERTISING TAMABLE CREATURES ON MUSTAFAR AMONG OTHER THINGS...AND thier site on SWG still refers to the old system
serious question - why do people do this with the large font things? I don't know about you guys but it just annoys the crap out of me. It doesn't make me read it (he says in response to a big font post)
Smed
You know, thats the lamest response ever, as you know you won't respond to normal written posts either! The fact that you responded to it, proves it grabbed your attention, but then if everyone does it, none would stand out!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You're out of time, SOE The whole 2.5 months shouldn't have been. The game was fine up until Nov 15th. If the CU was worked on, instead of devoting time to the NGE (including the many months prior to November), the game could possibly be totally bug free by now.
My account cancels on 2nd Feb, which was a waste as only played game for 1 day to get the life day gifts, will be resubbing when creature handler, Bio-engineer, scout, and ranger return, oh and the FS village.
There has been an outcry on the forums for a roll back. As i understand the term Rollback it would mean rerurning to the old system and scrapping everything that happened since the NGE.
Please clearly state weather this is even possible and discribe what the end results would be if it were?
I will jump in and answer this honestly:
We are not doing a roll back. We are not planning a roll back. We are not discussing a roll back. Once again, we are not doing a roll back.
Message Edited by Dev-Vapor on 03-24-200603:26 PM
I think what you meant to say was "We're not doing a rollback"
Clarity is so important!
Smed
Yet, but it didnt answer the question, i get bans for getting crappy answers for that...if the question is gonna get answered, answer the question
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Reply to my PM. I asked for your e-mail addy so I could correspond with you in regards to the SWG project.
I'm sure you'd get mass amounts of "spam" if you openly posted your e-mail addy.
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please smed, also consider Quest XP for space quests.
