Here is the full quote with Keldarins approval:
I BETTER NOT hear any complaints about Tanks fighting for the BH profession in his responses, he's doing his job and it will just mean this type of feedback will be much harder to get in the future.
So be cool 
Keldarin wrote:
Once we can get all the Bounty Hunter issues resolved we will be removing Jedi XP loss for normal PvP deaths as well. Jedi XP loss is primarily a PvE risk factor with loss from bounty deaths to prevent Jedi - BH exploits.
ArjunThakur wrote:
That's what I'd like to tell the community about
Keldarin: Sure, you can pass that on. We must not have been clear enough on this one, but that's been the intent all along. Those darn BH missions just keep making everything so difficult. (But well worth the effort cause they're so darn cool.)
Tanks wrote:
I'd rather you put in the fix including restoration of Jedi bounties before making such announcements. BHs are already not pleased that jedi are allowed to be rezzed and lose only 30K instead of full 200K upon db, as they consider losing 30K not much of a risk. Also, with no risk how do you plan to restore bounties AND prevent exploits? Even if you put in a timer people could just do it a few times a day for extra cash.
Keldarin: This is tied hand-in-hand with the Jedi death penalties. One can't be fixed without the other. Risk (for the Jedi) and reward (for the BH) need to scale in sync. So taking a BH mission for a Padawan with only Novice Lightsaber would yield nearly no cash for the BH and very little loss for the Jedi while taking a mission on an almost Knight qualified Jedi should be worth some serious money and that Jedi should lose lots of experience. This is the only way to make the system fair and minimize exploits. Unfortunately this happens to be a fairly difficult adjustment so will take a little while.
Tanks wrote:
BTW, if PvP deaths do not count as an experience loss, then what happened to THs explanation that exp. loss was put in to prevent Jedi from jumping into the meat grinder.
I know that pre-Knight I would be all over the GCW action with no penalities once my template is complete.
Keldarin: There may be some crossover confusion between Ranked and non-Ranked Jedi risks. Non-Ranked Jedi are basically like all other players. They don't have to participate in PvP if they don't want to and their penalties for participating in PvP should be similar to other players. Ranked Jedi however follow a completely different set of rules. There has been lots and lots of confusion and pain involved around what the balance of these non-Ranked Jedi should be. Ever since the decision to ease the requirements to become a Jedi we've had to accept the reality that there would be lots more of them and consequently the power level of the average Jedi could not be significantly higher than a fully advanced standard profession. Minimal added advantage for being a Jedi also translates into minimal additional risk. Again the rules all change once you start talking about Ranked Jedi because there is a very limited set of those.
The issue of having Jedi keep a low profile, to maintain as much continuity as we can, is a separate issue and will be tackled by different methods than just experience penalties. Having Jedi occasionally jump into a GCW battle to influence the outcome is cool, having Jedi with lightsabers coming out of the woodworks every few minutes is kinda silly.
Message Edited by ArjunThakur on 08-18-2004 06:20 PM
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Fed Up!
