Lots of great posts in the last discussion, I want to refine it and re-discuss.
From the discussion, I'd like to throw out the following questions:
Should Robes be in game, period?
Should they be Jedi only?
Should they be craftable by Jedi or Tailors, or given as a reward for advancement by your trainer.....or even a schematic given...etc.
Should they be anything other than a cloth covering?
Should they simply give some bonuses to Force Powers? (+regen, +forcepool etc)
Do you not care what your Jedi is wearing as long as it is the best protection possible?
Should robes have some level of armor protection?
From all the responses, I think its pretty clear the majority wants state defenses and melee/ranged/mitigation etc. defenses to all be innate and not rely on an item.
We are not discussing innate armor protection in this thread, if you want to talk about it make your own.
Yes robes should definatley be in. I would say "starter" robes should be jedi craftable, with high rank robes being rewards from trainers. And they should add at least small bounuses to force powers and a small amount of armor protection or be able to be worn over light armor.
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Lots of great posts in the last discussion, I want to refine it and re-discuss.
From the discussion, I'd like to throw out the following questions:
Should Robes be in game, period?
Robes are in the game.. Tailors make them and you can put clothing tape attachments into the sockets.
Should they be Jedi only?
Robes never Imbue Jedi with special powers why now?
Should they be craftable by Jedi or Tailors, or given as a reward for advancement by your trainer.....or even a schematic given...etc.
Robes are made by Tailors already.
Should they be anything other than a cloth covering?
Robes are clothing.
Should they simply give some bonuses to Force Powers? (+regen, +forcepool etc)
No.. Unless you loot a Force or Regen Clothing skill tape to put into a socketed robe.
Do you not care what your Jedi is wearing as long as it is the best protection possible?
I wear 80% kinetic composite. Thats the best protection you an get for Jedi. I dont understand why people are upset about wearing armor. Thats what its for.
Should robes have some level of armor protection?
Last I checked a Robe is a piece of cloth. Robe = A blanket or covering made of material, such as fur or cloth. Do you think that should give armor protection? Isn't that what armor is for? ARMOR = A defensive covering, as of metal, wood, or leather, worn to protect the body against weapons. Check dictionary.com if you need help understanding what a Robe and Armor are for.
From all the responses, I think its pretty clear the majority wants state defenses and melee/ranged/mitigation etc. defenses to all be innate and not rely on an item.
We are not discussing innate armor protection in this thread, if you want to talk about it make your own.
There should be non-jedi versions,craftable by tailors, that have the same/similar appearance
Should they be craftable by Jedi or Tailors, or given as a reward for advancement by your trainer.....or even a schematic given...etc.
Craftable by Jedi, schematics given at different skill boxes
Should they be anything other than a cloth covering?
The Jedi robes should be a jedi's armor. They should range from ar1 50% resists at initiate to ar3 80% resists at master.
Should they simply give some bonuses to Force Powers? (+regen, +forcepool etc)
No, but these bonuses should appear on clothing attachments that can be placed in the robes. These clothing attachments should be lootable and should also be rewards in some jedi quests.
Do you not care what your Jedi is wearing as long as it is the best protection possible?
Should robes have some level of armor protection?
I want my Jedi to look like a jedi, when I want him to. When I want to be hidden I will wear other clothes. Robes should have some level of armor protection as the Jedi defenses will never be enough to reduce damage enough sans armor.
Should Robes be in game, period? Only if everyone can wear one (otherwise its too easy to spot a jedi).
Should they be Jedi only? No.
Should they be craftable by Jedi or Tailors, or given as a reward for advancement by your trainer.....or even a schematic given...etc: Both
Should they be anything other than a cloth covering? Can vary. Count Duku's outfit was a bit more refined.
Should they simply give some bonuses to Force Powers? (+regen, +forcepool etc): No, should vary. Some do that, maybe others add more to defense, etc.
Do you not care what your Jedi is wearing as long as it is the best protection possible? I dont care as long as he lives, ergo, my reason for wearing 80% protection vs kinetic composite.
Should robes have some level of armor protection? Yes, this ability, however, should ONLY kick in for Jedi. These robes "power" should have the equiavelent of medium armor protection, imo.
Ugh, I thought I asked you not to label these as numbers! Would it kill us to have thread titles that made a little more sense?
I think robes should be in the game. At the very least, they should be available as clothing. I can't really justify them being anything 'more' than what clothing is in the game right now. I actually think this should be high-end tailor content. Similar to how RIS is available to Armorsmiths (except without all the obscure loot one must get). RIS is just another type of armor, the robes would be just another type of clothing.
I would have no problem if it were an available outfit to everyone. I mean, heck, might be fun to see a bunch of people decked out in Jedi robes who aren't Jedi. I'm pretty sure there is nothing 'special' about Jedi robes (not like lightsabers are special to Jedi).
So, I say there should be robes and that they should be similar to the regular outfits currently in the game.
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I don't care what I'm wearing as long as it is the best protection possible. If you give me robes, I'll find the best combo of robes/armour to protect my character.
Should they be craftable by Jedi or Tailors, or given as a reward for advancement by your trainer.....or even a schematic given...etc.
They should only be craftable by jedi. They should not require rare loot/resourses to craft either.
Should they be anything other than a cloth covering?
The robes should provide enhances to stat mods that jedi should have in their skill tree.
Should they simply give some bonuses to Force Powers? (+regen, +forcepool etc)
Hard to say but it would be nice if it did give a small bonus.
Do you not care what your Jedi is wearing as long as it is the best protection possible?
I do care very much about what my jedi is wearing. I do not want to be limited to wearing composite armor all the time to make up for my lack of defences. I want to have some normal looking clothing that has defences on it as personaly i dont like the look of armor.
Should robes have some level of armor protection?
yes they should, but i wouldnt go beyond light armor rating though.
Robes are in the game.. Tailors make them and you can put clothing tape attachments into the sockets. I think lots of jedi would say these don't look like jedi robes.
Should they be Jedi only?
A jedi only robe would be hot but too bad it would identify you immediately
Should they be craftable by Jedi or Tailors, or given as a reward for advancement by your trainer.....or even a schematic given...etc.
Robes could be given by trainer. It isn't a bad idea but tailors should be able to make one just like it in terms of looks.
Should they be anything other than a cloth covering?
Robes that are special to jedi could give all kinds of bonuses.
Should they simply give some bonuses to Force Powers? (+regen, +forcepool etc)
Yes I think thats a better idea than skill tapes since we don't want to have to camp these things with our alts. You could have a + to lightsabers made with crystals. Reduced force cost while equipped. Decreased visibility on radar while equipped. etc. All kinds of ideas could be put into play. I really like the idea of a jedi wearing a robe and being less visible on radar vs just wearing armor.
Do you not care what your Jedi is wearing as long as it is the best protection possible?
I wear 80% kinetic composite. Let us wear the robes over the armor... It could simply change our look to that of a jedi or random player if anyone can use a robe like the ones we are suggesting here.
Should robes have some level of armor protection?
I think armor should be worn for armor protection. Give us a robe to wear over the armor so we get the look right. Who knows maybe people will wear the robe look more vs just the armor if everyone can get robes that look like jedi robes.
From all the responses, I think its pretty clear the majority wants state defenses and melee/ranged/mitigation etc. defenses to all be innate and not rely on an item.
We are not discussing innate armor protection in this thread, if you want to talk about it make your own.
Unlocked Jedi November 16th 2003 Dark Jedi Guardian
Arjun - I still pose the alternative idea of having the lightsabre be the item that grants protection and not the robe. Its already a crafted item, adding restists and protection to it would not be hard to do. It does not pigeon hole a jedi into one look and it would work well with the risk/vs reward. If you want the protection you risk having to have the LS equipped by doing so you risk getting a TEF.
While I think that Jedi Robes would be a nice addition, and a way for Jedi of this period to explore their past by wearing the "outfit" of their profession, it might not be good as many of this periods Jedi are still in hiding.
I believe that Jedi should have some state protections with out items, or have the ability to embue their equipment with temporary force protections.
allowing robes to be worn over armor is simply a quick fix that wont work. it would be like restoring an old cars exterior but not fixing the broken engine. im not saying robes are the big fix we need. im saying that they should play a big role in a jedi character and not just be worn over armor. and like most big fixes go it will take a long time before we may get want we need, but i am willing to wait if it is well worth it.
