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Scorpion100
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I have seen a lot of questions lately about this issue and i have decided that maybe it is time that someone wrote a guide devoted to using grenades.
 
 
WHAT TO DO FIRST
Obviously the first thing to do is to buy some grenades. This is not as easy as it sounds, as grenades are not made very often (it takes the weaponsmith a long time and a lot of resources). The way i found grenades was to advertise on the trade forums or just ask Commando's if they knew a place to buy grenades. Make sure when you are buying the 'nades that they are about 200-800 damage with a speed of 2.0-2.9. Dont bother to get these grenades sliced, unless you know someone who can give you free slices or you are a smuggler. For those of you who would prefer more bang for your buck, look around for some Grenade Powerups. If you cannot find any, a Master Artisan should be able to make some. The best way to buy grenades is in factory crates of 25. They will often be priced between 15k and 40k.
Ok, now we have some grenades. But what is the best and quickest way to use them? Go to your toolbar. If you havent extended it into 2 bars, do that now. On the top left of your toolbar there should be 2 little arrows. Press one of these arrows until you find an empty or unused toolbar. Now clear a lot of space in your inventory and pull out a full crate worth of grenades. Place each grenade in a slot in the toolbar.
Ok so our grenades are ready to be used. However we need to be suitably protected so we dont blow up when the creatures do. If you are wearing ANY   armour without blast resists (Ubese, Mabari etc) this will not be good. I use composite armour with at least 70% Blast damage protection. Now that you have armour selected, get buffed as you normally do.
 
WHAT TO KILL
 
Now we are all prepared to use our grenades, but it is no use unless we know what to kill. Go to either Dathomir or Dantooine. On both of these planets you normally find large solo groups. Get in a group and take missions for creatures that have no blast resists, but still give out good xp. Some examples of these are: Dantooine- Huurton Stalkers, Pikets. Dathomir- Baz Nitches. Obviously there are more than just these animals that you can hunt with grenades. Ok, take 2 missions for these creatures (it is faster to get them in one direction but you do not have to), switch to your 'grenade toolbar' and head to the mission WP.
 
COMBAT!!!!!
 
Congratulations, you are almost there. Now all we have to do is destroy the lair (it helps to have mastered an elite combat profession for this). Now, attack the lair before you attack the other creatures (lets imagine that they are Huurton Stalkers). This gets the Huurtons attacking you in a large group. Because attacking a lair gives you a 100% hit ratio, and ALL grenades have a blast radius, you should move close to the mission lair. This means that the pack of Huurtons that is attacking you will follow you and crowd around their lair. Now start throwing 'nades'. Remember, each grenade has 5 uses, so hit each of the grenades in your toolbar 5 times before going to the next one. The lair and Huurtons will take longer to kill than a normal lair, but if u have mastered an elite combat profession each Huurton killed will give you 5000 Combat XP.  After the lair is empty, switch to a normal weapon, as it is a waste of grenades to take the lair out with no real results.
 
THE NUMBERS
 
Anybody who has mastered an elite combat profession (especially a melee one) will find this easy to do. And since your Combat XP will cap out at 300k, it is also a lot quicker than a normal grind. 300k Combat XP = 100k FS XP. This means that it is possible to get possibly 500k FS XP done in 1 day.
 
WARNING! It has been brought to my attention that Wookiees are currantly bugged and cannot use grenades.
 
***EDIT***  It seems that you will get more Combat XP if you hold a weapon that you are not certified for while you are throwing grenades. I have not tested this myself.
 
I hope this guide has helped people with their questions. 
 
 
 

Message Edited by Scorpion100 on 10-06-2004 12:16 AM

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I've been doing this awhile but its good to see someone write a guide up for the people who haven't tried it out yet 5 stars!

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thanks lol this is the first guide i have written


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sorry no longer handing out grenade wps...sorry guys and gals

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Hehe my guy on Bloodfin is a noob. He has no credits and is never going to be Force Sensitive. But thanks for the information lol


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i have one question, my friend he is a Master Commando an he found out about it, and was doing a lot of xp, and I was wondering is this considered an exploit or a bug?

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As far as i know the devs had said nothing at all about this. But if your friend is a master commando then he would be raking in the xp a lot quicker than the rest of us because there is one entire Commando tree devoted to grenades. And because everyone starts with basic C-12 Grenade certification i see no way that this could be considered a bug. It may be a minor exploit but it is nothing like PUP slicing or credit duping.
Oh and by the way, any constructive critisism on this guide is welcomed


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As with what he says this is not an exploit or bug at all even though some species like Wookiees can NOT use C12s because they are bugged atm...my buddy Little-Grim felt that when he wasted a bunch of money on grenades but can't do anything with them now

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I didnt know that wooks were bugged with this. All wookiees ignore what i wrote!!!!!


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there may also be some other alien species...but I do know that Humans and Zabrak can use C12s and Wookiees can not right now...I'll have to check around with my buddies who are Trandos and Twi'lek too I'll get back to you by tomorrow

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Yeah i will add this information into the guide


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Wookies bugged??!! NooooOoooooOOOooo!!!

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IceyBlueTundra wrote:
Wookies bugged??!! NooooOoooooOOOooo!!!

/Wookieroar devs


Since as long as I've been playing, this has been true. The only grenade certification wookiees rate is the "light grenade" cert, which allows for the use of bugbombs. On the upside, it's not that hard to make novice commando if you really want to get serious about getting enough exp to climb to Jedi, and start making use of the C22 grenade, a more powerful grenade, which uses exactly the same components to manufacture as the C12, but which can do considerably more damage, reducing the expense of grenade grinding. I'm trying to remember the stats on the C22's I used to make, and I think the max damage was in the 1300 neighborhood. For those intent on using C12s, speed powerups are probably the way to go. An artisan 4/4/x/x has 10 experimentation points, so a master isn't really needed.

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So you really do damage to yourself if you are standing in the blast radius? I've never noticed myself taking damage using this method. Hm, I may have to try with no armor but I can't imagine that we can hit ourselves with our own weapon. If we can then I'm impressed.

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I'm pretty sure you do damage yourself but it's not that significant if you are buffed and wearing armor.  Just as a note on this, I used this method on hurtons and the like on Dant and managed to just about cap so I went to Dath to kill some stuff and head to the village.  I converted once my 2 handed and combat were caped and noticed I needed another 15k FS to get into the 4th block so I did some local mobs.  The Maloks are a good target but only con white.  My XP was low so I equiped a non certed weapon and that brought the XP in.  You can do the lower level mobs and still get great XP using C12s by equiping a non certed weapons.  2 malok lairs, one spider lair and a couple kinad baz nitches gave me 20k FS xp.
 
works great and this will be used in my FS XP grind from now on.....   just remember to get that BF checked before your next buff.  I'm hitting about 500 BF per buff now using grenades.  Not sure if that's directly from the grenades or from the mobs attacking me while not fighting back.  Remember that getting buffed with 500 BF means only a 50% buff so get that fixed.
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You will notice the difference if you stand there without armor on. I wasn't too sure about it myself until I tried it. Of course I am a commando and was using C22s to do more damage too. While you do gain combat exp quickly, I found grenades to be boring because it takes me forever to finish off a lair with them. I am dropping commando and going back to swordsman and tka just for that reason. If you can't enjoy it, then it just isn't worth it.
 
 

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Thanks for posting the bit about the Wookiee's guys.  My toon, Kamehameha, is a wookiee, and I bought around 10 crates of C12's and tried throwing them.  When nothing happened I was thinking it was because I was a Swords/Doc, but thanks to this little footnote, I now understand what was going on.  IT's a good thing I gave 'em to my Zab. alt   Pity though, it would make my life a bit easier   As it stands now, I simply attack any friggin' red dot that shows up on the screen as I walk fro mthe village to rancor alley...and back.

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Wookiees can't use C12's, but I believe we can use any of the grenades (when certified, of course) from the Commando profession.  I should master Commando tonight and begin using Proton Grenades on Baz Nitches.

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/bump to the top so the same questions are not asked 100 times


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/bump


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Wookiees can do well with Proton Grenades. I used 5 grenades and took out a whole lair of quenkers for around 30k Combat XP. I didn't even let the lair go to it's fullest, either.

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to the top!


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Hi
 
Ive got novice commando so I bought a few crates of C12s and threw them at a voritor lair.  It took a very long time and a large number of c12s to destroy even one of the voritors.  Is this because they have blast resistance or I was using weak grenades???
 
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If you are novice Commando then you are actually certified to use C-22 grenades. C-12's are the weakest grenades of the lot. However it is very possible that depending on the voritors you were killing that they have blast resistance. Im not sure about that. The stats on your grenades may have had something to do with it as well.


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one question, may have been answered already, but do you throw the nades at the lair itself or the creature ?

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