flame single 2 speed modifier X3 at master more like X2.5 with +speeds mods

damage modifier wich is X5.8 but with dot 6.7

ham modifier of 0.02h 0a 0m

so we have a flame thrower with these stats 3.4 speed 883 max dam ap 0 (this is a normal sliced flamer ) (ham dosn't mater that much)

used with single 2 does 5916 damage (if kd its x2.7 wich would be 15973) with a cool down time of 8.5 secs so every 8.5 sec a speed sliced flame thrower can do 15k of dam if targets kd (counting in dot and not counting in any resits or armor of target )

acid single 2 speed modifer x3.5 at master more like x3.0 with speed mods

damage modifer is x5.5

ham modifer of 1.0health 1.5action 1.0mind

Speed: 3.6   750 ham Cost: Health-89, Action-54, Mind-18. ap 0 (Sliced for speed 

used with  single 2 does 4125 (if kd its x2.7 wich would be 11137) with a cool down time of  10.8 and ham cost of  89 health 81 action and 18 mind

so every 10.8 sec with a speed sliced HAR  i can do  11k dam if target is kd (not counting any armor resist)

and i believe  the stats on the cone are the same except they are aoe  tho i might be wrong on that

ps i am only human and if in my testing   i made a mistake i will admit and fix it   yours truly  maddog