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  • Where The Heck Am I?
    By: Donavias D'Armetho, Posted at: Tue, Jul 1st 2:50 PM 2003, Last Edited: Thu, Mar 24th 6:06 PM 2005
    Rated 3.66 by 15 people

    (Understanding maps, way points and your radar)

    Greetings everyone.

    Well I see your lost. And there no shuttle refueling station around to ask questions. Those Jawa�s and Jabba thieves are no help either. Trust me when I first started out as a Surveyor and Engineer, I was more lost than knowing where I was. I would rather stumble into a city than a Krayt. Hopefully this guide will help you in finding your way quickly, and painlessly. (because there�s stuff out there that�s very hungry).

    So what do you do? Unfold your map and see where your at. Here�s some map reading and HUD control basics. There�s a lot of tools you have and each one work with the other, like a well orchestrated team. Let�s start with your radar.

    By default it�s on the lower left of your screen. As you turn, the radar display rotates. Where�s North? Along the rim you�ll see a large solid triangle. That�s North. On the other side is a solid circle, larger than your �blip�s�. That�s South. The rectangle on the left side of this is East and the rectangle on the right side of this is West. Along the bottom of this display is your position. The first number is your East / West (West being negative) and the second number is North / South (South being negative). So your at position �1254 / +562. You know exactly where your at, right? Yes, and no.....

    Bring up you map and the first thing is you�ll see a bunch of icons. The icons are the cities, way points, and yourself. Your icon looks similar to an anchor. The arrow end of it is the direction your facing. If your facing north, your arrow is pointing to the top of the map AND the solid triangle on your radar is ALSO at the top. Now you know exactly where your at, right? Sorta .....

    The cities are sort of like way points ... in so much that they work the same on location distance. Cities are square looking things where way points are kind like backward arrows. A triangle affair with a tail. The end of the tail is where the city and way point is set. Way points are also in different colors and you can set those colors and descriptions in your Data Pad for future reference.

    If you hover your cursor over the icon till the icon "lights up" and move it down to the end of it's tail, and you look at the bottom right of the map it gives you the meter distance and direction in relation to YOUR position. Let�s say the nearest city from where your at is 2565m NE.

    Ok .... hmmm ... move facing north east, radar pointing between triangle and the left rectangle, my anchor on the map is pointing toward the little tail, time to run. Because you know EXACTLY where your at. Depending on distance it may take a while, and dodging nasty stuff on the way, but you�ll hit the objective in no time.

    What about way points? Way point work in the same fashion except they are set by either you, or the data base IA, (missions for one). Blue way points are personal ones set by you and red ones are for missions in your data pad. You can also change these colors for a different reference if needed. When a waypoint is active ... you will get an arrow on your screen as well as a corresponding arrow on your radar. When you get close to your arrival point, the arrow on the screen in front of you will disappear, and a magic tunnel of light shooting in the sky will come into view. DEAD CENTER of this is your way point objective. You will also notice a small triangle corresponding to your way point color in your radar.

    Here�s a trick on using all this stuff together. Lets say your in the city of Mos Entha on Tatooine, I don�t know, surveying resources. A bunch of friend /tell or mail you that there�s to be a raid on the Tusken City in about 3 hours and to meet in Bestine. You agree and it�s off to Bestine. But wait. Make it worth your while. Do 2 delivery missions.

    Ok, how do you know what missions and where they take you? Go to a mission terminal. Open your map. Hover your mouse over the city of Bestine and look at the bottom left of the screen to get the meter distance and direction. (Bestine is in the 5100�s SE of Mos Entha) Write that down. Find 2 missions that are in the general number of 5100 SE. (their usually about 500-600 credits). Accept the 2 missions, shuttle over to Bestine, collect your booty, and wait for your friends to collect up and go.

    Your in Mos Espa. You find a mission that pays 890 credits. It's final destination is 11256m SW. Where is that? Open your map and you'll find its Wayfar. No shuttle or starport there so you'll have to hit Bestine and run to the city.

    This little trick with a tad of variations depending on the situation will let you know where you are, where you need to be in the quickest possible way, and where you are every step of your journey. There is POI�s (Point of Interest) and areas to see throughout the Galaxy�s. Visit some of them. There�s a guide here ( (Understanding maps, way points and your radar)

    Greetings everyone.

    Well I see your lost. And there no shuttle refueling station around to ask questions. Those Jawa�s and Jabba thieves are no help either. Trust me when I first started out as a Surveyor and Engineer, I was more lost than knowing where I was. I would rather stumble into a city than a Krayt. Hopefully this guide will help you in finding your way quickly, and painlessly. (because there�s stuff out there that�s very hungry).

    So what do you do? Unfold your map and see where your at. Here�s some map reading and HUD control basics. There�s a lot of tools you have and each one work with the other, like a well orchestrated team. Let�s start with your radar.

    By default it�s on the lower left of your screen. As you turn, the radar display rotates. Where�s North? Along the rim you�ll see a large solid triangle. That�s North. On the other side is a solid circle, larger than your �blip�s�. That�s South. The rectangle on the left side of this is East and the rectangle on the right side of this is West. Along the bottom of this display is your position. The first number is your East / West (West being negative) and the second number is North / South (South being negative). So your at position �1254 / +562. You know exactly where your at, right? Yes, and no.....

    Bring up you map and the first thing is you�ll see a bunch of icons. The icons are the cities, way points, and yourself. Your icon looks similar to an anchor. The arrow end of it is the direction your facing. If your facing north, your arrow is pointing to the top of the map AND the solid triangle on your radar is ALSO at the top. Now you know exactly where your at, right? Sorta .....

    The cities are sort of like way points ... in so much that they work the same on location distance. Cities are square looking things where way points are kind like backward arrows. A triangle affair with a tail. The end of the tail is where the city and way point is set. Way points are also in different colors and you can set those colors and descriptions in your Data Pad for future reference.

    If you hover your cursor over the icon till the icon "lights up" and move it down to the end of it's tail, and you look at the bottom right of the map it gives you the meter distance and direction in relation to YOUR position. Let�s say the nearest city from where your at is 2565m NE.

    Ok .... hmmm ... move facing north east, radar pointing between triangle and the left rectangle, my anchor on the map is pointing toward the little tail, time to run. Because you know EXACTLY where your at. Depending on distance it may take a while, and dodging nasty stuff on the way, but you�ll hit the objective in no time.

    What about way points? Way point work in the same fashion except they are set by either you, or the data base IA, (missions for one). Blue way points are personal ones set by you and red ones are for missions in your data pad. You can also change these colors for a different reference if needed. When a waypoint is active ... you will get an arrow on your screen as well as a corresponding arrow on your radar. When you get close to your arrival point, the arrow on the screen in front of you will disappear, and a magic tunnel of light shooting in the sky will come into view. DEAD CENTER of this is your way point objective. You will also notice a small triangle corresponding to your way point color in your radar.

    Here�s a trick on using all this stuff together. Lets say your in the city of Mos Entha on Tatooine, I don�t know, surveying resources. A bunch of friend /tell or mail you that there�s to be a raid on the Tusken City in about 3 hours and to meet in Bestine. You agree and it�s off to Bestine. But wait. Make it worth your while. Do 2 delivery missions.

    Ok, how do you know what missions and where they take you? Go to a mission terminal. Open your map. Hover your mouse over the city of Bestine and look at the bottom left of the screen to get the meter distance and direction. (Bestine is in the 5100�s SE of Mos Entha) Write that down. Find 2 missions that are in the general number of 5100 SE. (their usually about 500-600 credits). Accept the 2 missions, shuttle over to Bestine, collect your booty, and wait for your friends to collect up and go.

    This little trick with a tad of variations depending on the situation will let you know where you are, where you need to be in the quickest possible way, and where you are every step of your journey. There is POI�s (Point of Interest) and areas to see throughout the Galaxy�s. Visit some of them. There�s a guide here, Galactic Guide to Scenic Spots, and remember the coordinates are the numbers on the radar and a �ballpark� area on your map.

    Happy Travels.

    --------------------
    Donavias D'Armetho
    Engineer/Surveyor
    Ahazi Galaxy

    SWG: Location: Where The Heck Am I?, by Donavias D'Armetho
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       PEOPLE Reply...
      Posted @ Fri, Mar 25th 10:54 AM 2005
      By: Rasori
      1 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      He said "The rectangle on the left side of THIS [South, as he clearly mentioned with the "That's South." part of his previous sentence] is east."

      Turn to face south. East is on the left side. He is correct.
        N S
      W E E W
      S N

      Might not have been the clearest way of putting it, but it is definitely correct.            

       
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       idots Reply...
      Posted @ Thu, Mar 24th 7:56 PM 2005
      By: LockeColeNine
      2 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      This realy sucks man, go back to school you dumb @#$!!                                                                             

       
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       OMFG Reply...
      Posted @ Thu, Oct 7th 9:45 PM 2004
      By: NamoTirrub
      39 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      you guys really need to go back to school...  THE ARROW IS NORTH! HOW MANY TIMES DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO SAY IT??? THE ARROW IS NORTH THE ARROW IS NORTH THE ARROW IS NORTH DAMMIT!                                                   

       
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       LOL Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Apr 12th 12:05 AM 2004
      By: StudentOfLife
      14 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      You are all killing me. (weeping with Lafter) Think of your contry's map, Do you know the west border/cost? Do you know North when you look at a real map? Hehe Same in game.

      Spelling, I speek/read Typo just fine. Gramer, as long as I understant the post I am happy.

      Realy though. LOL. the orig post was fine. Might help someone.            

       
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       Duh Reply...
      Posted @ Thu, Nov 20th 9:39 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      You're all morons                                                                             

       
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       Ajunta Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Oct 27th 3:42 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      suffering form edition problem this is a new version of the preeceeding post.

      okay to make things clear one time for goo to nav newbs its been like this for over centuries and i bet swg dinot change it for just this game

      +N+ +E+ +S+ +W+
      W+E N+S E+W S+N
      +S+ +W+ +N+ +E+


      every other arrangement of the four letter pattern is definitely false.

      remember taht when your are standing at one point facing North, East is on your right,west is on your left and south is in your back.


       
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       ajunta Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Oct 27th 3:38 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      ookay to make things clear one time for goo to nav newbs its been like this for over centuries and i bet swg dinot change it for just this game

      'N'----'E'----'S'----'W'
      W+E or N+S or E+W or S+N
      .S.----.W.----.N.----.E.


      every other arrangement of the four letter pattern is definitely false.

      remember taht when your are standing at one point facing North, East is on your right,west is on your left and south is in your back.

       
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       Thanks Reply...
      Posted @ Wed, Oct 15th 11:12 AM 2003
      By: GreatWhite
      2 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      So far as a newbie, your insights to the navagation tools has been a big help to me as an explorer.


      Thanks                                                                

       
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       Also... Reply...
      Posted @ Sun, Oct 5th 9:34 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      You can also create a waypoint with the waypoint command,

      /waypoint -1200 500

      Then in the misc section of the options you can turn the waypoint monitor on that will tell you how far away that point is as well as anyother way points such as missions.                         

       
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       whoops Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Jul 28th 12:31 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      Ok here is what it should look like...

        S
      E + W
      N
                                                                      

       
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       quick to flame Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Jul 28th 12:28 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [1.50]

      My God people, read the original post again,
      Now stop, and read it again carefully this time!!!

      "On the other side is a solid circle, larger than your �blip�s�. That�s South. The rectangle on the left side of this is East and the rectangle on the right side of this is West"

        N
      E + W
      S
                  

       
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       quick to flam Reply...
      Posted @ Mon, Jul 28th 12:28 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [1.66]

      My God people, read the original post again,
      Now stop, and read it again carefully this time!!!

      "On the other side is a solid circle, larger than your �blip�s�. That�s South. The rectangle on the left side of this is East and the rectangle on the right side of this is West"

        N
      E + W
      S
                  

       
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       Atrocious grammar Reply...
      Posted @ Thu, Jul 17th 5:41 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Decent [2.50]

      He has some good points and good information, but the text is very poorly written and the grammar is apalling. One example: "There is POI�s (Point of Interest) and areas to see throughout the Galaxy�s." It should be "There are points of interest and areas to see throughout the galaxies." I was taught 3 times in elementary school how to make a singular word ending with a Y by changing it to 'ies'. Also many times he used your when it should have been you're. And "where your at" should be "where you are". I know probably none of you care, but the guy just made himself look like an idiot with a pearl of wisdom by writing good information very poorly.

       
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         RE: Atrocious grammar Reply...
        Posted @ Mon, Oct 27th 3:52 PM 2003
        By: Anonymous
        Score: Good [4.00]

        hum, what a smartarse,

        Maybee you did not consider the fact that the guy who wrote this article is not a native english speaker, he might be tha� for example and speak perfectly 2 other languages you dont even know about.
        Yet as a french I perfectly understood the whole article and found it easy to read. So I guess the message is clear, which is the aim of communication. I take it any native english speaker who plays the swg game ( who are the people to whom it is intended) is able to understand it perfectly.
        Speaking about language I am not competent to judge your english grammar and spelling but your post is poor as far as structure and readability are concerned which is way more a sign of lack of cleverness to my mind than spelling and grammar are.

         
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         RE: Atrocious grammar Reply...
        Posted @ Mon, Sep 22nd 2:45 PM 2003
        By: Anonymous
        Score: Default [1.50]

        It never fails to amaze me how someone can take something dynamic,language in this case, and try to over structure it.  The primary purpose of language is to communicate not to be tied to what someone's ideal of correct is. English spelling is almost entirely memory, which really doesn't have much to do with intelligenance..... If you want a language that requires intelligencance try math.......... (i wonder which act of congress made the webster dictonary law)

        Free thinker.

         
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           RE: Atrocious grammar Reply...
          Posted @ Sat, Oct 25th 8:18 AM 2003
          By: Anonymous
          Score: Default [2.00]

          Who is this man, 'Webster', who tells me how to speak?
                                                                                       

           
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       Nope Reply...
      Posted @ Sat, Jul 5th 4:16 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      "The rectangle on the left side of this is East and the rectangle on the right side of this is West."

      Isn't the left side west and the right side east?  

      Not if you're facing south, using it as a reference point.                                       

       
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         RE: Nope Reply...
        Posted @ Mon, Jul 28th 12:22 PM 2003
        By: Anonymous
        Score: Default [2.00]

        taken in context it reads:

        "On the other side is a solid circle, larger than your �blip�s�. That�s South. The rectangle on the left side of this is East and the rectangle on the right side of this is West."

        which is correct, although a weird way to explain it.                         

         
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       RE: but...? Reply...
      Posted @ Tue, Jul 15th 12:04 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      No, you would have to stand on your head OR look in a mirror.  Doing both would reverse then unreverse. Now if I could just figure which of these things on my radar is Middle East I could go kill Saddam and Osama with my bounty hunter.                                      

       
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         RE: but...? Reply...
        Posted @ Mon, Sep 1st 7:38 PM 2003
        By: ANolan
        Scholar
        29 posts
        Score: Decent [3.00]

        lol :) send in the at-ats                                                                             

         
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           RE: but...? Reply...
          Posted @ Tue, Oct 7th 12:44 PM 2003
          By: Anonymous
          Score: Default [2.00]

          "J" wouldn't be posting on a sci-fi MMORPG website, I can tell you that...                                                                

           
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       compass Reply...
      Posted @ Fri, Jul 4th 9:51 AM 2003
      By: Uglokk
      5 posts
      Score: Excellent [4.50]

      its a typo.. When north is up,just go by NESW (easy to remember if you refer it to "Never Eat Shreaded Wheat") where North is the arrow direction and then go clockwise to the right.. East, then South, then West..                                      

       
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       East/ Reply...
      Posted @ Wed, Jul 2nd 3:31 PM 2003
      By: Tigsen
      1 posts
      Score: Excellent [4.50]

      If you are facing North... the triangle on the outer ring of your radar is at the top and the circle (South) is at the bottom, then West should be on the left and East should be on the right. Just keep in mind that those directions are all relative to the direction you are currently facing... if you're facing East then east is straight ahead and West is behind you, etc.

      Tigsen

      Edited, Wed Jul  2 15:25:36 2003

       
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       east/west Reply...
      Posted @ Wed, Jul 2nd 10:21 AM 2003
      By: fineganone
      2 posts
      Score: Decent [3.00]

      The book says the same east is left and west is right  which is backwards Is this really true?
                                                                      

       
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       Maybe Reply...
      Posted @ Wed, Jul 2nd 3:03 AM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      Well I think the writer was explaining the point of the compass with South as reference.
      Hence the "That�s South."

      "On the other side is a solid circle, larger than your �blip�s�. That�s South. The rectangle on the left side of this is East and the rectangle on the right side of this is West"                         

       
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       Just a thought.... Reply...
      Posted @ Tue, Jul 1st 5:01 PM 2003
      By: Anonymous
      Score: Default [2.00]

      "The rectangle on the left side of this is East and the rectangle on the right side of this is West."

      Isn't the left side west and the right side east?                                                   

       
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