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RyFord
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Plain and simple:

 

 There really is and was a lot of content in this game but when you break it down there is no worthwhile reward for much of it:

Dathomir Dungeons = no rewards

Yavin Dungeons = no rewards

Kashyyyk Dungeons = the good ones are not repeatable and offer outdated or unfixed rewards

 

MOST IMPORTANTLY:

the game presents no challenge. Logically speaking it is important that solo players get to play the game but SOMETHING in the game should take more than 1 person ASIDE from 2 dungeons on Mustafar, and that is LITERALLY what the current state of affairs is

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02-09-2007 11:24 AM  

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Haydekk wrote:


gasson wrote:


Sasune wrote:

I'd really like to know "why" you can't do what the players want ? Why to you keep pushing and riding this train wreck ?

Your dying here.. take a look and act fast..Your out of time SOE.



They have a very small amount of time left theres 2 major sci fi mmos due to launch this year and if SOE dont fix this game quick many will flock to them alot of starwars fans seem to be both StarGate and StarTrek fans also



Star Wars fans seem to be Star Trek fans? Where'd you hear that?


ok some

But most seem to be StarGate which will hurt SWG when StarGate Worlds launches

                         
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02-09-2007 11:24 AM  

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IMHO this game is way too easy compared to EQ2 for example

I think top priority must be a serious difficulty pass on all NPC's & Mobs etc

Gold elites shouldn't be solo'd by anyone, it should take a full group or more, like the Dark Jedi Masters that used to wander into the Mining Outpost on Dantooine.  It used to take 30 - 40+ players several minutes to take down just 1 of those, that was the community at its best!

Elites should not be solo'd, they should take a group of 3 or more to beat.

Any other mobs should be challenging to a player of the same level and a solo player should not be able to tackle a mob on their own.  A single same level npc would be a good fight, a lair of creatures then you need a group of players.

Do the above, adjust xp accordingly and grant more xp bonuses for groups and this will go part way to restoring the fun to SWG. 

Also, some sort of mentoring system will be helpful, a lot of CL90 players like to be helpers but how can a CL90 player help a new starter when the new starter is penalised for grouping with a higher level player?  Right now any new players that are in a guild are left out in the cold to fend for themselves, we can give them advice but thats it, a mentoring system would be ideal in this situation.

That's just a few ideas to bring content back into the game as well as some community sprirt, if you can get this right then you can concentrate on new content as well as future expansions.

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02-09-2007 11:25 AM  

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Although this will probably not be read.
 
Please dont forget us pilots in the next expansion/addon. We havent had any new content since ROTW and that was limited at best.
 
In the pilot forum top 10 things people were after, almost everyone said:
 
1) New Pilot Content
     High level Content for Aces
     Stations and capital ships with quest NPC's inside (imersive gameplay)
     New Space PvE zones
 

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KyleKnox wrote:


Centaurius wrote:


delanstarrunner wrote:
  Do away with the particle effects and Jedi.  They are ugly and create a tremendous amount of lag!  Oh, they are niether Star-Warsy nor Iconic.


fixed and I'm an elder, player Jedi were the single worst idea in mmorpg history

No making jedi a starter prof was the single worst idea.

If you think you can have a star wars game without jedi, you are NUTS.  When I saw star wars in 77, I didnt come out saying "gee those jedi are ok, but I REALLY REALLY want to be a sunggler just like Han"  Uh no.  No jedi, and ITS NOT STAR WARS.

Having Jedi as an epic prof was great.  They just needed to add other epic, unlockable profs, that were just as powerful, provided the same type of character advancement and "wow" factor, and offered players choice...Like a DarkTrooper or a Cybernetic Bounty Hunter/Killer, or a Rebel Fleet Commando, or whatever....



saber tef and perma-death were the best idea to keep things in check. I would be fine with Jedi as a player proff and alpha, at that if:

there were heavy penalties and repurcussions for making yourself known

and

there was a server cap relative to the population

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02-09-2007 11:26 AM  

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MY ideas for a happier and more playable NGE

 

1. it is beyond the discussion phase, we need a housing purge.  now!  Along these lines, mayors and guild leaders need more controll over the city.

2. The reason it seems people are so interested in pvp is because there is NOTHING else to do.  We want content, more immersive gameplay....that does NOT mean more quest like Legacy.  In all honesty, most of the quest you guys have put in the game are so boring, unimaginative, and lame, there is just no point in doing them.  The 250 skill point system of the old game was great content for me.  When i got bored i could just mix and match and try somthing else.  It was very immersive and FUN.  Please, no more pvp content.  Give us pve and crafting content.

3. I never used to have lag.  Now, at times, the game becomes unplayable.  This needs attention

4. I dont think that a server merge would be the best thing to do.  Nobody is going to want to be uprooted.  I agree that somthing needs to be done though.  I think i would be willing to switch servers if i was guarenteed that ALL my housing, credits, items, ect..would transfer over.  Maybe give out a reward for those people that have to move.

5. You have to start listening to us.  Every time you say you are going to, and then you dont.  After that you add content to the game that nobody wants and it just upsets people and more of us leave.  The senators know what the community wants.  They compile threads, read through posts,and communicate with the community on a regular basis.  Please let them do their job and listen to them.

6. You removed all the species advantages with the NGE, but through some great wisdom, you left all the species restrictions in place.  All you have done is handicap those of us that are wookie, trando, or twilek.  This needs fixed, we have been asking....begging, for this for over a year now.

7.  Cheffs need fixed. 90% of our food/drink schematics are completly useless.  we have about 4 or 5 things that we can sell, thats it.  This has not been fixed with CH 5.

Please look into these issues. 





 
 
 
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02-09-2007 11:26 AM  

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Duragoth
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darkmelvader wrote:

 


Smed wrote:
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Smed
 


To everyone else:

This is some of the stuff that we spoke to Smed and the other SOE guys about that I wasn't sure if I could mention their reaction to.  We made sure that your voices were heard.  Some of you that are posting in this thread are more worried about flaming Smed than actually reading what he wrote.  Please go back and re-read it.



No offence to you darkmelvader, but I'm glad that Smed took the time to reconfirm what was talked about at that Summit.
(I say no offence to you because I tend not to believe much unless it's confermed. I think Smed stating this is confermation enough)

Yes I read the post, and yes I agree that in his position he might not know everything that goes on in the gaming community, but knowing that he took the time means something that the community should value.
02-09-2007 11:26 AM  

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Haydekk
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Hisagawa wrote:


Haydekk wrote:

Yes, and it looked to me like he plans on adding more content, improving the guild system, etc from what he learned at the influencers summit.

So what is so bad about that? Can't we comment on it constructively instead of just flaming him?




Excuse me but I really don't think I have time to wait 6 months to a year when he told us 6 months last year. Besides, I'll flame him when I wanna, I don't like liars. "CU is here to stay" Right....

It's too late in the ball game for all these things, NGE can't be saved.



Well than thats where your oppinion and mine differ. We can leave it at that

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02-09-2007 11:27 AM  

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Smed, a High level executive at IBM once said at a conference that "In order to Increase our success rates, we need to double our failure rates"

Well when it comes to this game, in my opinion, it has been failing miserably for a long time... and ill tell you why honestly...

I used to play on 9 accounts, and believe me, i used to play them! and NEVER ONCE NOT A SINGLE TIME did i mind paying the $15 a month for each character and ALWAYS had all 9 accounts active..

Nowadays, i play on 2 accounts and 3 different characters, and it bothers me i need to pay for the 2nd account because i dont feel im getting my money's worth (there are some issues with a server transfer that would mess up some housing/quests so i wont transfer till they get fixed).

My other Major problem is with the NGE is that Grinding is HORRIBLE, we are forced to do these deliver and kill type quests over and over and over again.. THIS IS NOT FUN! i have not grinded a character since the NGE (i started a new character when the 2nd slots were given out and i got to level 30 before i was ready to hang myself from boredom)

Why is this? Simple, because in the old days, even at "level 54" a.k.a. Master Rifleman (For example), we were still "competitive" and could play the game! My old Character was (for example) a master droid engineer and a TKA, and guess what, i could duel and have fun still!

Now, if you are not level 90, your ONLY objective in the game is to do quests and grind. THATS BORING!

Smed, this game will NEVER be what it once was... Look, it was a "good attempt", but you guys see the real numbers, why do you think servers have lost 80% of their population. Look at all the dead houses on all the servers for god's sake. Im not saying Roll back the servers to pre-cu, But jeez, do something! We Need diversity, 9 professions is boring! Ya expertise is a "nice" attempt and diversity BUT ITS NOT THE SAME!

Remember the Old Death Watch Bunker? in the old days, with a group of 20 people, we MAYBE got up to the B Door but would always die when going into the Mines! Those were the good old days, THAT WAS CONTENT! People Worked for a Goal, to get mando! it was a True Badge of Honor to show off your mando, Same with RIS ARMOR, it took Weeks to get a full suit (i had probably, if not the first suit of RIS on ahazi back way before the CU) and it was a honor to have it, showed my dedication and time i spent ingame..     THESE Items dont exist anymore?  everyone and their brother has a peice of mando if they want it, its WAY TO EASY, a spy could get a full suit in less than a week, i have done it.... THATS TRULY SAD! pathetic actually.

We need Ingame Items, things, weapons, armor, that actually Mean something, that takes time to get. The hardest thing to get ingame now is probably a lava crystal or maybe a OR hilt from HK, everything else can be gotten in a day or two or money can buy these things otherwise...

Now that the Reverse engineering system is coming out to make Skill attachments, its all based on JUNK loots and kills from elite mobs to get bits. What happened to the days of killing the hardest mobs in the game to get good SEA's? DJM's, Krayts, Nightsister Elders, Lord Nyax, etc, i know it promoted camping but it was fun and challenging!

Another Disappointment with the NGE was Jedi, in the Pre-CU days, we needed to grind up to "32" professions to unlock, with the village, it took "126?" to unlock, and then in the NGE it was just given out....  Jedi was a badge of Honor, a show of determination, now "non elder" jedi's are the red headed step children of the community. I am a elder jedi (pre-cu), but when i wear my "master cloak" instead of my elder robe ingame i get "comments" and called noob and such, ill throw on my elder robe and tell them to shut the hell up, and they usually shut up right away once they look at my badges and see that im a "pre-cu" jedi, Its a Badge of Respect, people respect that (in general that is, mostly older players that have been around.) that you are a Non village Elder, i dont get it myself, its weird, but people in general hold that as the highest accomplishment in the game being a elder unlock jedi. Hell i went to a video game conference a few years ago and told people i was a "Star wars galaxy jedi" and before i knew it im talking to 8 people about galaxies and the jedi grind and how it is to play a jedi, people were intrigued. Now its a joke, im sorry, people dont give a crap anymore.

Look i am just throwing out some random thoughts here, and ill be glad to discuss my thoughts further, hell send me a private message and ill be glad to give you a call and discuss things in detail as how to "revive" this game, just give me a phone number.

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Expertise is out for all professions...bring on the content and not another $30 expansion with yet another added planet. We have so many wonderful wide-open planets that can be utilized with high-end quests/dungeons.

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What SOE and LA should work on is profession specific content, like the smuggler system, but expand on that and make a system that is a never ending or decay-able system for each profession.
 
Here is an example of the officer system. A officer would do a quest (PVE or PVP) that would increase their rank *whatever their current rank* first class. I don’t know how RL military ranks work or in SWG for that matter. You would be working for ranks that only an Officer could get.
 
Jedi is simple bring back the Paddy quest and Knight Quest for XP. And Give out titles for completing them. Also bring out back the FRS but include PVE and PVP options for gaining rank. Lower the decay and puff you’re done.
 
BH needs a ranking system for the number of Marks you kill. Also be sure to include a kill to death ratio into the calculation. Too many BH claim to be the best this will answer this for us.
 
Smuggler just improve and add on to the current system.
 
Medic taking suggestions
 
 Commando should also have some type of ranking system but in order for them to “rank up” they need to be in a group. Also taking suggestions.
 
Entertainer taking suggestions
 
Spy should have type hidden origination that they could go to, to sell information about rival crime lords or opposing factions. By doing so they would rank up to elite spy stasis.
 
 All of these are ideas I came up with within five min. I think people that are paid to come up with ideas might do a better job but it’s a good start anyway.

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Server consolidation is a touchy subject...I would suggest being very careful with how you approach it.  The biggest problem I have with it is house or city locations.  I worked very hard to get what I consider prime real estate in the game, and if I get moved to another one, I start from square one.  Good news for those servers that are gaining population, but not so much for those being shut down.

And the fall-out has to be considered.  How many Japanese players did you retain when you shut down their servers?  I'm betting not a whole lot...


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ewwww....... seeing smed post something like this brought back all the horrible memories of what happened in early Nov 05...


Everyone remember last time they talked to "focus groups" ?






bleh...... bring us the hoth expansion already so we have something to do.

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jlutz11 wrote:

7.  Cheffs need fixed. 90% of our food/drink schematics are completly useless.  we have about 4 or 5 things that we can sell, thats it.  This has not been fixed with CH 5.


whats sad is even with BE components coming back, chef's will still only be able to sell 7 different items (ones that boost each primary stat to around 75 and then flameout)

Everything else is worthless and should be removed from the game OR CHANGED

We need Quad Mod Food, Stuff that acts similiar to spice perhaps! Where you get big boosts to some mods but negative mods to others.

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also, why have a Poll, when (approx) 95% of the Community [US], all believe that Polls are POINTLESS, USELESS and a giant waste of time, when it seems like nothing EVER comes from them

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