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wyrwulf wrote:

It doesnt but since LA made a statement about an addition to SWG this year I would like to know what is planned.

When we asked him about this, he said that more content was to be added but not in an expansion.  It will be added at no additional cost.

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    We need another expansion BADLY.......... More involvement with some of the main characters would be nice, you can't get much more star warsy and iconic than running around with Vader or Luke.

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    Centaurius wrote:


    delanstarrunner wrote:
      Do away with the particle effects and Jedi.  They are ugly and create a tremendous amount of lag!  Oh, they are niether Star-Warsy nor Iconic.


    fixed and I'm an elder, player Jedi were the single worst idea in mmorpg history

    No, making jedi a starter prof was the single worst idea.

    If you think you can have a star wars game without jedi, you are NUTS.  When I saw star wars in 77, I didnt come out saying "gee those jedi are ok, but I REALLY REALLY want to be a smuggler just like Han"  Uh no.  No jedi, and ITS NOT STAR WARS.

    Having Jedi as an epic prof was great.  They just needed to add other epic, unlockable profs, that were just as powerful, provided the same type of character advancement and "wow" factor, and offered players choice...Like a DarkTrooper or a Cybernetic Bounty Hunter/Killer, or a Rebel Fleet Commando, or whatever....

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    i still say classic servers is a possibility whether they want to admit that they COULD do it or not.... im well aware that they wont do it but its fun to dream but bring back some proffessions at least going from 32 to 9 is quite the jump even if you bring back more condensed versions that we could use our expertise in to specialize

    example have a brawler proffesion make it so we could select swordsman fencer TK or pikeman in it

    bring back Legendary and Exceptional weapons and make it so loot is no longer superior to crafted weapons other than the legendary and exceptional weapons

    and bring back CH in whatever form and let us control larger creatures such as rancor maybe not kimo(id be dissapointed but could stand it)

    make armor more customizable the armor dye kits was a great idea it gave us more options id like to see more colors and for different sets of armor especially factional im sick of seeing all the white trooper armor

    last but not least make DWB a challenge again i miss being one of the few people with a jetpack it would cut down on the AFK campers as well and provide another reason for people to group ..... i also dont like seeing everyone and their dog in mando armor thats not star warsy i seem to recall only one person in all of star wars during this period of time with mando armor


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    Sasune wrote:

    I'd really like to know "why" you can't do what the players want ? Why to you keep pushing and riding this train wreck ?

    Your dying here.. take a look and act fast..Your out of time SOE.



    They have a very small amount of time left theres 2 major sci fi mmos due to launch this year and if SOE dont fix this game quick many will flock to them alot of starwars fans seem to be both StarGate and StarTrek fans also

                             
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    Hisagawa wrote:


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    I'm just gonna come out and say it...you guys suck, really.

    This post of yours shows how little you listen to us. When you take out the sandbox, you need content. Restuss is a poor excuse for content. The only thing I see it as is a centralized PvP spot due to the lack of players we have now. It's been over a year...come on now...

    Why exactly is Pre-CU so impossible Sir? You say it's impossible...why? How come a few nerds can do it, yet you guys can't?

    I really thing you guys want this game to fail. If NGE was not a hit (My God it was a disaster) when it first came out, it never will be. No matter how much you put on a crap base, it's still going to be crap.

    The sky is really falling...



    OMG. People want more communication from the devs - they try to listen to the players and head toward making the necessary changes, but whenever a dev posts his/her views all they get is flamed for it.

    Really people can't anything just be a constructive discussion?




    Did you read his post? Really....

    Yes, and it looked to me like he plans on adding more content, improving the guild system, etc from what he learned at the influencers summit.

    So what is so bad about that? Can't we comment on it constructively instead of just flaming him?

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    bring back the old animations as well..... the ones now are crap


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    John,

    I was one of the lucky three in the room with you for the discussion. Thanks for the invite and taking a listen....

    Please make sure this time that your words are followed by actions. Animations are needed, not particle effects. New content on all fronts: PvE, PVP, and RP are needed. Speed of combat might want to be toned down just a tad, not as slow as before though, if that's what it takes to get animations back in there. More decent storyline quests for higher levels. More bug fixes (Lair Crystal, DA buff at the end: these things have attributes that effect things no longer in the game as of the NGE.) Let's get targeting options and mechanics simpified and fixed. (Speak with Yivvits if you need more input/info.)

    If you read my earlier posts, you will notice that I am usually always critical. It's not the fact that I don't appreciate what SOE does with development. It's more that I want to see that development completed as much as possible. Let's get this game stable and interesting as soon as possible.

    Sincerely,

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    *hands Smed a nice, warm cup of coffee*

    OK, Smed, now wake up and smell the coffee. Anyone here could have told you ages ago we wanted more high-level content, instead of that asinine emphasis on PVP.
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    I'm glad to hear that the message about content sank in.  This is the number one issue I hear from my guild members.  They are bored because there is no new content to take part in, and they have done all the old stuff over and over and over.  I have one guildmate that regularly just hangs out in the Coronet Starport simply because he has nothing to do.

    I will commend you for brining in players that are critical of your efforts.  The focus groups that often get cited don't seem to be reflective of the community.  Not that the most critical players are either, but I suspect they are closer to knowing what the community actually wants.

    I'm very surprised by the server consolidation.  I'm a little worried too.  I suspect my primary server won't suffer because it is one of the largest in the game.  However, the Devs haven't been behind this idea much in the past.  I'm all for increasing the server populations.  I just hope it gets done right.

    Overall, I'm encouraged by this post.  I hope that those things that have been laid out are actually followed up on.

    P.S.  In case you are wondering, my biggest desire for the game is a load of new PvE GCW-centric content.

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    gasson wrote:


    Sasune wrote:

    I'd really like to know "why" you can't do what the players want ? Why to you keep pushing and riding this train wreck ?

    Your dying here.. take a look and act fast..Your out of time SOE.



    They have a very small amount of time left theres 2 major sci fi mmos due to launch this year and if SOE dont fix this game quick many will flock to them alot of starwars fans seem to be both StarGate and StarTrek fans also



    Star Wars fans seem to be Star Trek fans? Where'd you hear that?

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    Please read this too Smed. That's the start of the discussion about your post when it was still in the locked forums:

    http://soe.lithium.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swg_temp&message.id=37428

    Thanks

     

    >And that was part of the appeal. Something you completely lose when you "dumb down" the rules so that "anyone can play".
    We like to say "complex but not complicated". But I think we might be missing a bit of the point there. As in, actually, complicated has a great deal of appeal.<

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    i would like to know who are the biggest critics.... cuz i could critisize all day with incoherent babble maybe even well thought out ideas


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    Haydekk wrote:


    Hisagawa wrote:


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    I'm just gonna come out and say it...you guys suck, really.

    This post of yours shows how little you listen to us. When you take out the sandbox, you need content. Restuss is a poor excuse for content. The only thing I see it as is a centralized PvP spot due to the lack of players we have now. It's been over a year...come on now...

    Why exactly is Pre-CU so impossible Sir? You say it's impossible...why? How come a few nerds can do it, yet you guys can't?

    I really thing you guys want this game to fail. If NGE was not a hit (My God it was a disaster) when it first came out, it never will be. No matter how much you put on a crap base, it's still going to be crap.

    The sky is really falling...



    OMG. People want more communication from the devs - they try to listen to the players and head toward making the necessary changes, but whenever a dev posts his/her views all they get is flamed for it.

    Really people can't anything just be a constructive discussion?




    Did you read his post? Really....

    Yes, and it looked to me like he plans on adding more content, improving the guild system, etc from what he learned at the influencers summit.

    So what is so bad about that? Can't we comment on it constructively instead of just flaming him?




    Excuse me but I really don't think I have time to wait 6 months to a year when he told us 6 months last year. Besides, I'll flame him when I wanna, I don't like liars. "CU is here to stay" Right....

    It's too late in the ball game for all these things, NGE can't be saved.

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        Most likely SOE is using some sort of SIX-SIGMA team as a way to develop the future of this game.  This would explain alot about their previous decisions and the NGE.  But one thing statistical analysis can't eek out, is niches such as those found in the gaming industry.  If we wanted to play WOW we would play WOW, we are still here because we believe the development team can steer this wreck back around.  But for Christ's sake listen to the **edit**ing community, not some numbers-cruncher that knows little about gaming.

     

      /rant off. 

     

      Edit:  Rant made me forget to link in Six-Sigma

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