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Re: Who mastered what for their FSCS.
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Bolanos
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This might not have anything to do with this post, but I'm just curious.  Has anyone been told by a holocron to master a 4th profession?  I continually see using three holocrons or less then the next one goes silent.  Or is it just a coinsidence that these people didn't need more then 3 holocrons?

11-13-2003 09:35 AM  

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Well if I was a devious developer, I would make the next master box earned the trigger AFTER you completed the real items to keep people focused on professions only.  This way you would never realize what you had done to trigger the FS slot.

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11-13-2003 09:38 AM  

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Very cool, exactly what I was thinking of looking at. After seeing these I have to say that it must have something to do with either regular xp and or Apprentice xp. Why?

If you look, not everyone had all 6 of the starting professions, and not everyone had the same amount of different professions. The only thing in common was that they all had many different profession, most of which were mastered. So my thinking is that you have to collect so many points of experience, any kind, but experience. Possibly also, they have the system look to see you have at least, for example, 5 different types of xp. What I'm saying is, you have pistal, combat, scout, medic, unarmed, crafting xp, and at least 3mil points, you get FSCS.  Say for example 3 mil points. Well if you masters several professions, then you will get a ton of xp for mastering all of them.

If you look at, it kind of makes sence. All the professions have a cap on collecting xp. That means if you only get 3 professions and stick with them never changing, will won't get the FSCS. The only way to get enough xp is to change professions, or sell off all your skills in the one you have and learn it all over again. But if they are making sure you have at least several types of xp, then that won't work either.

Again, it makes sence because if those things above are true, then that means a person has spent a lot of time playing the game, and has tried a lot of different parts of the game, and different professions. Thus, you now get to try the ultimate profession, Jedi. A reward for playing so much and trying so many different things. It fits all the criteria; anyone can achieve it, powergamers will probably get it first, the path is different for everyone (doesnt matter what order you do professions in or what combination), and it will take a long time to do. It fits with the people who already got it too. Achieving new profession, means you get some more new type of xp. Getting a new skill in one, raises the xp cap thus allowing for the pool of it you have been getting to move into the count. Killing something, as one person did, gets you combat and weapon xp.

 

So now the thing to look for is how many total xp points each person got based on the pofessions, and the minimum different types they all got. What are the common factors.    Those are my thoughts on it.

 

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11-13-2003 12:13 PM  

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Seems to me the way to becoming a jedi is luck! Yea hard work sacrafice and luck. Or master 34 professions.
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I have noticed i thing that may help.

Everybody who has opened thier slot has mastered at lest 2 basic and 2 elite professions.  I don't think holocrons have any effect on it opening.  They just give you a path in the right direction.

 

 

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I'm starting to think that skill XP is the key to this as well. Specifially, there is a random number generated as a threshold for each skill. Hit the threshold on each one and FSCS unlocks.

It's simple & straightforward (from a coder's perspective), it's attainable without holocrons, it adds an element of randomness and is consistent with what the devs have said.

I'd REALLY like to see the skill point totals for each person who unlocked FSCS at close to the time that they did it.

 

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I did some small calculations on the required profession exp that each of the jedi have gained by mastering professions...this is going by the list provided earlier in the tread..

Total profession exp:

Monika - 4,253,000

Zina - 9,163,470

Orions - 12,313,130

Mraughh - 11,271,240

Forceismypath - 5,795,960

Kazzar - 8,963,990

Well there it is for what it's worth..

Del'Faan

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heh I noticed none of them had Master Bounty Hunter, like my Holocron told me, I think it is almost better to delete my charcter and make a new one then to try and master bounty hunter, unless the exp change thats actually in the patch notes gets hotfixed in, because from what Ive seen,  the exp increase for investigation is not in, and investigation is far from casual gamer, which I am for the moment(strange saying that, because I usually play hardcore, but Im finding that not playing as much is actually making me a happier person heh).
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Also the majoirty of them Mastered a profession that branched off their last holo Porfession and opend the slot...not all but most. Now if you say that there is a delayed opening trigger you could fit even more of the Jedi that appeared into this category.

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Just curious on one thing with all these jedi... what were their starting professions?

 

there is a theory i've seen that states that you have to do the professions that holocrons give you "on top of" completing/mastering  your starting profession...

 

just curious if they all have this in common or not.

 

 

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11-14-2003 07:17 AM  

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listen to squidwalker. he's on the right track.
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IMO

34 professions

Stated that every person will reach FSCS differently.

Lets say 8 mastered professions for FSCS

34*33*32*31*30*29*28*27 = 732,058,145,280 posible paths to FSCS.

So I think it is as simple as choosing the correct professions to master. The one dev did say he was amazed it was something as simple as it was....yes the idea is simple...choosing the correct path is not.
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One problem with how he seperated it.  He would say stuff like 8 basic, 7 elite.

But what about hybrids?  Hybrids are not technically elite.  Elite is something like ranger or rifleman.  Hybrid is something like BH or commando. 

 

I know it's not a big deal.  But i'm bored. =)

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SquidWalker's theory sounds pretty good to me.  The only addition would be that I think we need to widen the horizon with the types of experience to that given both directly and indirectly by mastering skills.  So ... what classifications of experience are there?

1.  Combat XP (killing things)

2.  Crafting XP (making things)

3.  Explorer XP (traveling the world)

4.  Content XP (running missions, doing theme parks, and basically using the content the devs have created)

5.  Social XP (declaring a residence, grouping)

Then apply SquidWalker's concept, saying you have to gain X number of experience in each category and boom, your slot is opened.  If this is the case, it seems heavily weighted in combat XP.

Hrm, whatcha think?  I'm probably missing some classifications.

 


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i unlocked mine mastering 4 basic 1 elite .......... started when game first came out as brawler then decided i wanted Bh so i mastered scout and marksman ...... had few professions in the mean time i dabbled in like ch ranger medic and pistoleer ..... got first holo it told me master teras kasi so i did that 2nd holo told me master medic did that 3rd holo was silent ...... so didnt know what to do next i decided i would master artisan i mastered that and after training i tried to use my 3rd holo and it told me my slot had opened. so thats 4 basic prof and 1 elite mastered.

1. scout 

2. marksman

3. medic

4. artisan

elite

1. teras kasi

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