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Re: FSCS Unlocking Theory (FAQ)
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ShortJedi
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If holocrons randomly selected a profession from your remaining required professions then they wouldn't tell you the same thing everytime you used them.  They would say something different each time (which you could use to determine all 5 required professions).  The holocron picks professions in an order.  There's no significance to the order, but the order is there so you won't get a different profession every time you use a holocron unless you master the profession it tells you. 

That is not true, they could. You are assuming that the Holocron does not look at the flagged professions to unlock the slot. Meaning, you use your first Holo, which  flags a one of the five professions as being the first to master although you don't master it. You get a second holo and use it, the holo could be set up to see if there is an unmastered profession that another holo has already revealed an if there is an unmastered profession that is already revealed it tells you the same and at the same time it checks for number of FSCS professions that has been mastered that way if it does not give away the silent one.

12-02-2003 12:47 PM  

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>>I think what he is trying to say is that the hidden profession is NOT earmarked and if one of the three pre holo mastered professions WAS a FSCS profession then the 4th holo used would have been silent because the holo wont give a hint on the last profession needed

Yep.

12-03-2003 06:09 AM  

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>>I think what he is trying to say is that the hidden profession is NOT earmarked and if one of the three pre holo mastered professions WAS a FSCS profession then the 4th holo used would have been silent because the holo wont give a hint on the last profession needed



Yeah i understand what he is saying.... But how do you know for sure. There is nothing that points to weather a holo can not give 4 hints if the person has found the secret one... but there are cases where people have gotten the FS on mastering the last thing the holo told them, even so there have been cases of people opening back to back holos and getting it. (i.e. got one said carbineer, next said scout after they finished scout it opened with nothing in between (just pulled out 2 professions for example purposes)

If we follow thus said logic should the holo been silent?

See my point is we really don't know how the 5 professions are pulled and coded and flagged in the system. At this point all we have is our best guess how they are. But what we have found is that it's 5 professions. I think we can all agreed on that.

My own person opinion is that the less you have mastered prior to the use of the holocrons the better chance you have of opening the slots... at least that how it seems to be. People seem to have better odds with getting 4 holos and nothing pre-mastered.

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12-03-2003 08:29 AM  

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>>people have gotten the FS on mastering the last thing the holo told them

Only if they also mastered a second profession on their way to their "final" (or 4th) Holo profession have they unlocked their FSCS... basically tripping that 5th profession along the way with luck.

>>even so there have been cases of people opening back to back holos and getting it. (i.e. got one said carbineer, next said scout after they finished scout it opened with nothing in between (just pulled out 2 professions for example purposes)

I doubt that... I would like to see a link to someone who has done this?

 

 

12-04-2003 09:07 AM  

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do the research...  I'm saying I've read where there is a case or two that someone has opened up a slot.

I don't have the link right off the bat... I would have to dig... just like you. Go through the master list of links... sad thing is not everyone is on there.

You guys so stuck on it has to be a profession between the 2 holo's... I'm saying it doesn't have to be the case, no proof either way... except for what i've read in accounts of people... he ll most of the time people can't remember the order they even did stuff (most of the half if not 3/4ths of the jedis) till about now... where people are keeping track.

What about the guy that opened it with just 5 basics?

I think what i find interesting about all the the theory threads is how some of them are "supposedly" debunked when no one knows for sure. no-one has a real grasp on the professions are pulled. We have an "idea" on how they pulled... for all we know the could be pulled in order, randomily, earmarked... etc. there is no proof confirming one way or another...

It's amazing how close minded the thinking is around here. Most of it is from "well if they don't agree with me, they are obviously wrong" Fine keep thinking that way... and best of luck.

Obviously there is some way things are flagged and if so how is it so impossible for someone to find the last profession before the others in the list. If the holo's acts like what's been said up top as in pulls from a list in order... wouldn't it stand to reason it will still pull the first 4 if you have the 5th... see the thing is we have no clue... So you can't rule it out.

Kinda works the same way if someone does 2-3 professions then opens 2 holo's and gets the 5th silent... thus meaning 2 of the 3 professions they did before the 2 holo's were part of the list of 5.

Now the one that that might throw everyone off is if the holo's are set to somehow only give up to 4 clues but have to retain 1 profession in the pull.... (in previous example) say you do 2-3 professions prior to the 2 holos but one of those 2-3 was your 5th profession and one was your 3rd.... the holo's seeing you have 2 out of 5 professions would give you only 2 more... regardless of which ones you pick. thus earmarking something.  And thus yes you could find your 5th profession between 2 holo's if your lucky enough... But if that is what your saying it wasn't very clear... but i swear i've read a thread or 2 that a person has opened their FCSC doing back to back holo's nothing in between.

 

 

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12-04-2003 10:25 AM  

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I am wondering if there is actually only one "secret" profession.  Couldn't there be 2 or 3 or 4 "secret" professions and you have to master only one of them?

Is there anyone that has actually mastered anywhere near 28 professions and not unlocked the slot?  There would have to be if there was only one "secret" profession.  In fact there would have to be lots of people that have mastered 20+ professions and not unlocked anything.  Maybe we just haven't had enough time but I've only heard of one person mastering even 15 professions without unlocking the slot.

12-04-2003 12:23 PM  

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