Special thanx to all the combat profession boards. Their work helped complete the list.

  *** The Razor Knucklers have not yet been released. There is presently no ETA on when or if they will be. ***

  **Listings in this color were added 07/21/04**

Message Edited by Waste93 on 07-21-2004 10:52 PM

  Innate Certs : There a number of innate certifications. There are 9 (10 for Wookiees). They are CDEF Pistol, CDEF Carbine, CDEF Rifle, Stone Knife, Survival Knife, C12 Grenade, Zixc Bug Bomb, Heavy Axe, and Wooden Staff. Wookiees also get the Bowcaster.

  ** Special Note ** There are indication that the Zixc Bug Bomb is not an innate cert. If that is the case it very likely is either an uncerted weapon like the Beam Rifle or that it's cert is hidden somewhere. Also though Wookiees show to be certed for the C12 Grenade, indications are that this is/was broken and Wookiees using them will get the uncerted penalty. 

  Beam Rifle : There is no certification for this weapon.

  Consumable Weapons : Consumable weapons are tagged with a ! in the Master Weapon list above. All grenades are consumable weapons and come in stacks of 5. Other than the bomb droid and some grenades, all other consumable weapons are Commando weapons. These have chrages which on average are 27-30 uses per weapon. (special thanx to Garvin the Commando Coorespondent for this information).

  Number of Weapons Certs by Profession

**Special Note** The cert lists includes certs from the Novice box in the totals. For example getting Unarrmed IV does not give any certs, however you do get the one at Novice Brawler. That cert is included in the count of any profession that would require Brawler. Novice Marksman gives three certs which are also included in the count for the ranged professions.

  Commando : 13 (Commando) + 28(Master Marksman) + 1(Unarmed IV) = 41 + Innates

**Special Note** Ten of the Commando level certs are for consumable weapons

  Bounty Hunter : 3(BH) + 28(Master Marksman) = 31 + Innates

  Rifleman : 3(Rifleman) + 11(Marksman Rifle IV) = 14 + Innates

  Pistoleer : 5(Pistoleer) + 10(Marksman Pistol IV) = 15 + Innates

  Carabineer : 2(Carabineer) + 7(Marksman Carbine IV) +1(Unknown Lithitanium Carbine) = 10 + Innates

  Teras Kasi : 2(Teras Kasi) +1(Unarmed IV) = 3 + Innates

  Fencer : 1(Fencer) + 6(1H Swords IV) = 7 + Innates

  Swordsman : 3(Swordsman) + 6(2H Swords IV) = 8 + Innates

  Pikeman : 2(Pikeman) + 5(Polearms IV) = 7 + Innates

  Smuggler : 1(Smuggler) +1(Unarmed IV) + 10(Marksman Pistol IV)  = 12 + Innates

  Number of Weapons by Damage Type and Professions that have certs (excluding innates)

 Acid : 8 - Bounty Hunter, Carabineer, Commando, Pistoleer, Rifleman

 Blast : 9 - Bounty Hunter, Commando, Smuggler, Swordsman

 Cold : 2 - BH, Commando, Rifleman

 Electrical : 3 - Bounty Hunter, Commando, Pikeman

 Energy : 31 - Bounty Hunter, Carabineer, Commando, Pikeman, Pistol, Rifleman, Smuggler

 Heat : 7 - Bounty Hunter, Carabineer, Commando, Pistoleer, Rifleman, Smuggler, Teras Kasi

 Kinetic : 23 - Bounty Hunter, Commando, Fencer, Pikeman, Pistoleer, Smuggler, Swordsman, Teras Kasi

 Restraint : 0

 Stun : 4 - Bounty Hunter, Commando, Fencer, Pistoleer, Smuggler, Rifleman

  Number of Weapons by AP level and  Professions that have certs (excluding innates and Bomb Droids)

 Heavy : 3 - Commando, Rifleman

 Medium : 14 - Bounty Hunter, Carabineer, Swordman, Pikeman

 Light : 29 - Fencer,Pistoleer, Smuggler, Teras Kasi

 None : 40

  Disclaimer : This data should not be used for balance comparrisons. There are to many factors that this data does not reflect to make it useful in that manner. It does not indicate any of the specials, status effects, defenses, or any other part of a profession. Also a number of weapons are rarely used or have little value at higher levels in the profession.

Message Edited by Waste93 on 02-04-2005 10:10 PM

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Waste93 wrote:

   Smuggler : 1(Unarmed IV) + 11(Marksman Pistol IV) = 12 + Innates

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Rizzaka wrote:

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Waste93 wrote:

   Smuggler : 1(Unarmed IV) + 11(Marksman Pistol IV) = 12 + Innates

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Unarmed 4 gives a weapon now? i know VK's used to have their Cert there but its now at Novice TKA, am i missing something there or was this a typo?

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Waste93 wrote:

  Number of Weapons by Profession

  Teras Kasi : 2(Teras Kasi) +1(Unarmed IV) = 3 + Innates

  Number of Weapons by Damage Type and Professions that have certs (excluding innates)

 Kinetic : 22 - Bounty Hunter, Commando, Fencer, Pikeman, Pistoleer, Rifleman, Smuggler, Swordsman

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Nice post!  Obviously a lot of work done on it. 

I only know TK, so that's all I comment on.  You're implying above that there's a certification for a weapon at Unarmed IV.  I didn't think there was.  I thought the only weapons a TK was certified on were Dagger, VK's, and (soon) Razor Knucklers.  Dagger is given at Novice Brawler.

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MedmanDC wrote:
TKA has no weapons from brawler (unarmed I-IV). We do get a dagger at novice, but I think that gives you 1 or 2h xp, not unarmed.

Also, you should add TKA to the Kinetic list (VKs are kinetic). You might also want to think about removing (or at least marking "very rare") the heat damage VK and whatever the NS Energy Lance does for Pikemen because both are so rare.

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Super job Waste,

One thing though...Wookiees only have 9 innate certs as well. Don,t forget that the wook cert for c12 grenades is broken.

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Waste93 wrote:

  I know there is some confusion about the Unarmed IV showing 1 cert. That is the dagger from Novice. The list is just the number of certification the profession will have at Master level. The dagger does not give Unarmed XP but since it is Novice Brawler you will have it for any Melee Profession.

 

  The numbers for the ranged professions also include all the certs from the Novice Marksman box. So even though a Pistoleer say would only use pistols, they also have certs for a rifle and carbine from the Marksman Novice box and are included in the count.

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Waste93 wrote:

  List edited to put Teras Kasi in Kinetic. I had a lot of notes when typing the info and it was left out on accident.

 

  I know there is some confusion about the Unarmed IV showing 1 cert. That is the dagger from Novice. The list is just the number of certification the profession will have at Master level. The dagger does not give Unarmed XP but since it is Novice Brawler you will have it for any Melee Profession.

 

  The numbers for the ranged professions also include all the certs from the Novice Marksman box. So even though a Pistoleer say would only use pistols, they also have certs for a rifle and carbine from the Marksman Novice box and are included in the count.

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Nice list...

  Number of Weapons by Profession

  Commando : 13 (Commando) + 23(Master Marksman) + 1(Unarmed IV) = 37 + Innates

For Commandos, you might want to note that there are 3 Non-Consumable Weapons and 10 Consumable Weapons...You make it sound like they are the same thing but in reality, cost wise, they are very different...Beyond that you may even go farther to note that many of the Consumable Weapons are grenades which are packed 5 per vs. the other Consumable Weapons which on average are 27 to 30 shots per....

Just a suggestion...Again, nice job...

Message Edited by garvin on 05-18-2004 12:55 PM

Message Edited by garvin on 05-18-2004 01:03 PM

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HandleOne wrote:

Only problem with this is there are 3 certifications at Novice Brawler and it is not accounted for in all the teir IV skills. However, I must say I love the list.

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