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Multi-Player ship Operation Guide V1.28(updated 01-07-05)   [ Edited ]
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Tellahane
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Registered: 07-01-2003


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Multi-Player Ship Operation Guide V 1.28
Formally known as the decimator operation guide!
 
1.15: Added some adv. strategy info, more to come!
1.20: Added some more information, wish list, bug list etc..
1.25: Added Advanced Pilot MPS Technique, Added 1 item to wish list
1.26: Added a paragraph comparison, yt-1300 vs. VT-49 Decimator (need Nova info yet)
1.27: Added comparison for Nova Cruiser, and thoughts info, Submitted by(hase2 & KyrYxus)
1.28: Fixed typo's, added wish list items, edited bug list items
 
Positions:
There's 5 types of positions, Pilot, Operations Officer, Engineer, Gunner, and medical officer.
 
Crew Minimum for combat operation: 3
1 Pilot/Operations Officer/Engineer
2 Gunner's
 
Crew Preferred for combat operation: 8
1 Pilot
2 Gunner's
1 Operation Officer
1 Medical Officer
3 Engineer's
 
 
The phrase "a well oiled-machine" comes to mind. With this group you cover all the bases of operations for this ship. However no matter how good you are, or well equipped, lets not forget that fighter escort!.
 
Weapon Specs(for all 3 ships):
2 Rotary Gunner Turrets. 1 for each gunner
3 Missile Ordnance. All controlled by pilot.(FIX: if you have the yt-1300, this only has 2 ordnances -Thnx to Kyr'Yxus )
Ship total mass is near 5,000,000 so load it up!(FIX: MPShips are supposed to only have 500k mass, expect this to change)
 
Multi-Person Ship comparison:
I've grinded up Master Privateer on my alternate character and picked out my yt-1300. I loaded it will all of the exact same components In my decimator and Have put it through full crew extensive testing. Below is a simple list's of pro's and con's in my opinion which may differ from person to person. The courier comparison was brought in by hase2!
 
Rebel YKL-37R Nova Courier
 
Pro's
  • 3 Ordance slots instead of 2 for the YT-1300
  • can go overt in any system. Opposed to the YT-1300
  • very good visibility due the cross shaped layout.
  • imp ships show red.
Con's
  • difficult to navigate through the interior compared to the YT (several rooms, narrow corridors)
  • less style while dogfighting as opposed to the YT
  • hard to find 'matching' furniture
  • HUGE target, much larger than both the YT and the Deci. The hit profile on the Nova is unbelievable.
 
Corellian YT-1300:
Pro's
  • Better Gunner visibilty and angle of attacks
  • Smaller Ship shape making it harder to hit
  • Better looking interior even though its not shaped right(the gunner turret ladder is supposed tobe centered, its not even close)
  • More fun to dogfight/fly in then the big hulking decimator
  • Repairing panels are easier to navigate and find for the engineering crew
  • 2 static chairs in the cockpit that anyone can use

Con's

  • Only privateers can man the operations chair, no rebel or imperial pilots
  • Only 2 ordnance launchers instead of 3
  • All faction enemy ships will appear as yellow not red, unless in deep space making it harder to target
  • You can't go overt in space in this craft no matter what. Not even for deep space ***(this seems to be tied directly to your crew, will test further but seems that if you have a privateer manning ops chair it won't let you overt status, whereas solo you can.)
Imperial VT-49 Decimator:
Pro's
  • Gets the full 3 ordnance launchers instead of 2 like the yt-1300
  • Both imperial and privateers can man the operations chair
  • Can go overt in this vehicle in any system
  • Rebel ships will show up as red to even privateer gunners. Allowing for easier targeting

Con's

  • Bigger and fatter, looks a lot uglier when dogfighting with it.
  • Harder interior to navigate to find and repair panels or conduits
  • Because its bigger its easier to be hit.
  • Gunners have less visibilty because of the long front(mainly bottom gunner)
  • No other static furniture, crafted furniture doesnt "match" the interior well.

 

Pilot: Fly level and straight as best as possible. The ship should be considered a heavy bomber with turret defenses. Pilot only needs to worry about flying even so the gunners can properly engage defensivly, and to drop the missiles where they need to go. Depending on your flight situation, whether your escorting a mission, engaging a series of fighter waves, or doing a destroy mission of a strong target you should vary your ordnance load. Against fighters and escorts i'd suggest loading up 3 mark 4 proton launchers, and use them as incoming waves enter the area to deal some basic initial damage that your gunners can finish off. This follows in escort missions as well. For destroying targets there are differences of opinion. I usually load up 2 space bomb launchers and 1 mark 4 for fighter defense. Some go 3 seismic launchers etc it can vary depending on your situation. Planning ahead is your best tactic.
 
Operations Officer: This guy is the one who runs the droid controls and the special abilities that comes with your pilot class. And is the only one to do so. Communication between the pilot and operations officer is critical for  working together. The best thing for the decimator is to use eweapons and weapon overloads for the gunner, assuming your reacter can hold it. When going up against a destroy target focus on bomber strikes and the droid weapon overload.
 
Adv. Strategy: The best setup that I have seen with my decimator and will probably work with all three ships is to set up your droid interface at the lowest possible speed(lower the droid command speed the faster you can use them!), and use weapons overload three. NOT FOUR, four really really overpowers your turrets, makes them do huge damage. But will drain your capaciter to nothing in 2-3 shots. Weapon overload three, often increases your damage by a chunk without extra cost to your capaciter. This will give your gunners more power overall. I also do not suggest engine overload 4, i'd stick with 3. I so far haven't seen the advantage of tuning, or any evidence that it works. Only set this up if you have some spare reacter energy not in use(around 1k+ or more minmum). Otherwise it might disable some components(the most fun i had was doing an engine overload and having my droid interface disabled so i coudn't turn the overload off! ahhhh!). Also keep in mind that your standard pilot abilities half-stack. And what i mean by that is the advantages of your ability will hit, but any advantages from your droid command may override it. For ex. /eweapons will make my capaciter be stronger and add damage, but since my weapons are overloaded it only just makes my capaciter stronger. Having multiple operation officers has its advantages as well. One person can sit down and call a bomb strike or reload ability, then a 2nd can sit down and call theirs as well. Though i haven't tested with the actual abilites like emergancy shields or weapons twice, the double bombstrike is succesful. The ability timer is based to the player sitting in the chair.
 
Turret Gunners: Watch your capaciter and try to make sure to fire if you know you will hit o that you don't run out  at a time you really need the energy. When you are being shot at, make sure to hit 'r' or whatever you binded to target what last shot at you and to shoot it down first. Two or three shots at it and the npc will pull off. In a pvp situation your job is to constantly spam the find nearest enemy player button which you may have to bind, and shoot at them just before they come into range and keep spamming it so they run into your fire before they get the chance to fire back.
 
Adv. Strategy: The best controls for a gunner to use is the mouse. Kick your mouse sensativity up to max for the quick turning and adjusting during fire fights. A mouse vs. a joystick just completly blew the joystick out of the ring.
 
Engineer: Runs around and repairs things, have lots of repair tools of many differen't types stored on the ship and on the player. Keep players posted in sections for quick repairs as you take hits. For quick grabs it may not be a bad idea to throw down some extra repair kits below or next to all the different components incase someone dies or you have the operations station jump out and assist with repairs. Best to have everyone on the ship admin for repairing purposes. (don't load anything in your decimator you don't want stolen!)
 
Adv. Strategy: Nothing incredibly big needs to happen here other it might be good to have at least one engineer if not all shipwrights so they can craft repair kits if necessary if you run out of  your stashed set of kits.
 
Medical Officer: Keep everyone alive, have plenty of fire suppression blankets and wound packs ready. Without the engineers the ship will go down!
 
Fighter Escort: This is a big one. For your multi-player ship no matter what you have loaded in your equipment armor shields or otherwise you need a fighter escort with you to be mostly effective. Just like discover, don't leave home without it!
 
Adv. Strategy: Though the more fighters that are not aggroed on the MPS the better, sometimes it may get too hot on your tail, don't be afraid to use the advantages of the guns on the MPS. Fly the fighters on your six right past it and let the MPS lay waste to your enemy.
 
Roles of the Multi-Player Ship:
 
Escort Missions:
Escort mission are probably the most fun for the crew, All the pilot needs to do is form up on the target your escorting. Usually right behind it either higher or lower, sometimes to the side. Make sure you give a good clearence so your top and bottom gunners can shoot forward at the waves of fighters as they come in. Load all 3 of your ordnances with anti-fighter type missles. Usually mark 4 protons or use concussions. Not bent on destroying unless you want to but more for taking down their shields for easier kills.
 
Stay with your escort and let your gunners do most of the work unless you start taking hits and your shields get low, then pull off increase speed and do some simple meanouvers nice and smoothly untill you have cleared of the fighters on you then rejoin the formation. Your fighter escort should keep anyone who aggro'es pretty busy.
 
Fighter Wave Missions(duty missions):
This is more challenging, You do basically everything you would for an escort mission except for 2 major points. The first is instead of flying formation with the escort(which doesn't exist in this mission) stay towards the back of your group. Leaving your fighter escort infront of you to engage the first wave of fighters.
 
Second once you enter or approach what i call the storm(the are where all the fighting is going on like a swarm of gnats so to speak) begin a nice easy simple non-changing turn around the equater of the battle. Giving your top and bottom gunner both plenty of targets to shoot at. Just keep the turn steady and stay with the crowd. As far as loadout stick with the anti-fighter as usual.
 
Destroy Target Mission(For the bigger then fighter targets):
This is the harder, but more fun part to play! First thing is first, load up your ordnance with at least 2 launchers that deal extensive damage. I personally go with space bombs, some go with seismic, depending on your target you may want one or the other. For your 3rd ordnance you can load up a 3rd launcher thats seismic or space bomb, or you can have a little fighter defense and grab proton's or cuncussions. Up to the pilot and the varying situation. 
 
For this point lets say your target is a gunboat with its own fighter escort. The goal here is to have your fighter escort take on the enemy's fighter escort, keep em busy take em down all that fun stuff. Basically leaving you un-aggroed. Approach the target to about 2000m.
 
 If you are imperial, call in bomber strikes on the target, they usually clear out the weapons for you. If your not imperial then you better have 1 or two fighters fly in before you and target the weapons subsystems with your gunners and the fighters. once the weapons are down close into missile range and release the boom boom's.
 
If you have high enough forward armor and shields, or if the craft is not aggroed you, you can go ahead and hit it hard with everything you got. Note however the guns on the gunboats and bigger cruisers may try to shoot the incoming missiles down especially space bomb's since they are so slow. If needbe i would go after the weapon system with seismics once the shields were down. Siesmics do pretty good for taking down components.
 
Destroy Target Missions(Corvette's etc.):
This is one of the more fun things. As an imperial in my decimator with a decent crew and a 3 man fighter escort i've taken down a corvette in under 5 minutes. First of all the corvette in kessel, spawns with 2 gunboats and fighter escorts. If you are imperial(you guest it) launch a few bomb strikes at the corvette itself to clear its weapons. If not, first send in your fighter escort to pull and drag the fighters from the corvette, take em down.
 
After that come up behind the gunboats and do the same from above. Take out the rear shields and weapons then release hell with your forward ordnance. Once they are out of the way its corvette fun time. Target and take down the weapons of the corvette, the have 8 each. SAVE your missiles. Mostly let your fighter escort do this.
 
Now for the primary and secondary shields there are 2 ways to do it. One which is the easiest is approach from the top or bottom or sides and release your seismic/space bombs on them. Both generaters are on the front side of the neck, right behind the bridge. They are hard to hit with just fighters because the corvette moves. Missiles however nail them very easilly.
 
The second way is to pull up next to the corvette's bridge on either side and have your gunners shoot at it while you match speed. After the shields are gone have the fighter escort take out the engines since its a very easy task. While they are doing it meanouver your craft to above or below the engine section.
 
Once the engines are out, target the reacter and again release space bombs/seismics. The reacter is a very hard component to hit, but not for missiles =). Once the reacter is down the bridge is pretty easy either pull in front of the corvette and let your gunners shoot out the window or do a pass and hit it with more bombs/missles to finish the corvette off. And boom boom boom enjoy the show =)
 
Advanced Pilots with Advanced Equipment and crew:
This is something I was able to do successful last night with just 2 gunners, and an operations officer. This was pretty awesome to do so i'm going to throw it up here for some of you very advanced MPS pilots to try out with your gunners. We've all see the falcon in ep6 flying around just as a fighter would, with both guns fixed forward taking down fighters in a fast dogfight. Well in JTL you can't fix the turrets forward, but you can do something slightly better. Below is all the equipment I currently load in my decimator, and a few things I have ordered that I will be getting for my decimator soon. With this set-up and lots of practice flying, I'm able to go head to head with xwings ywings bwings and in some cases after a good chunk of practice a-wings, all tier 5. So as a speed comparison the decimator can handle it. First lets go over the specs:
 
Main Reactor: Mass: 50268.1 RGR: 18362.7 (25k looted reactor RGR bidding on now)
Engine: RE'd Cygnus mission loot engine, 95.7 speed(104 on order)
Shield: Mass: 41472.0 Front(2019.1) Back(2019.1) 15.94SRR (Currently looking for better)
Front Armor: Mass: 37263.7 Armor(2505 when fresh bought)
Rear Armor: Mass: 37263.7 Armor(2505 when fresh bought)
Cpacitor:Mass: 35056.7 Capacitor(1475.9) Recharge rate(58.2) non-re?d>
Booster: Mass: 43076.7 Booster Energy(2196.2) Recharge(60.2) Cunsumption(213.3) Accel(44.4) TopBoost(34.3)
Droid Interface:Mass: 20096.4 Speed 12.8
Weapon 1:Mass: 61942.3 Damage 2353.4-4178.7   .570vsshields and armor, 35.5 per shot, 0.410 refire(non re'd)
Weapon 2:Mass: 51601.6 Damage 2604.3-3899.4  .770Vs Shields .580 vs armor, 37per shot, 0.420 refire(non re'd)
Ordnance 1:Mass: 16861 proton launcher, 5207.4-10123
Ordnance 2:Mass: 16790 proton launcher, 5207.4-10123
Ordnance 3:Mass: 14515.1 proton launcher, 5207.4-10123
Countermeasure:Mass: 1150, chaff launcher
Flight Computer: Following is a list of programs I use for my decimator, Some of these chips are rebel chips and some are privateer as well. Having a good assortment of both can be helpful to fully cover your ship. I'm going to start in the order of which i turn them on for my ship:
Reactor Overload- Four
Engine Overload- Three
Weapon Capacitor Overcharge- Four
Weapon Overload- Three
Capacitor to Shield Shunt- Three
Shield Rear/Front Reinforcement-Heavy(only use during a fight)
As well as shield front/rear adjust heavy level
Then Shield Normalization, Reactor Stabilization etc for all the chips as necessary
 
With This setup above, I can dogfight with most fighters with, What i've trained my best gunners to be able to do is to keep the guns facing forward, and change them a little as I come up behind enemy fighters for them to shoot down.Now as the pilot thats not as easy as it sounds, you have to meanouver the ship regardless of the missing crosshairs to a point where both guns and shoot at the fighter, which is not easy to learn but do-able. Using this method Last night SOLO with my gunners I was able to take down the corvette in kessel with all of its escorts, A corvette in deep space with fighter escorts, and a half-dozen gunboats as well, with only 1 plasma fire to a reactor which was fixed and so far working properlly since the last patch, and a few armor hits, but the armor never got below half. Being able to turn and knowning when to accelerate/decellerate is the biggest key, you have to do it blindly and it takes practice. It does help significantly to have the FS boxes for vehicle control. Possibly even necessary but nothing is with the right amount of practice.
 
Added Thoughts From pilots:
 
Equipment
since MPS tend to die fast when in trouble i would try to use as much crafted equipment as possible. at least for the training phases when you and your gunners start getting used to new tactics or enemies. expect to die and suffer from decay (you cant expect to get a nova and own deepspace from minute one) so better use equipment that can be replaced easily. since mass isnt an issue on MPSs at all (at least atm) you can use heavy crafted stuff for a while.
 
some things to look for:
  • Reactor: normally a 18-19k crafted reactor is sufficient to run your ship.
  • Engine: i personally use a crafted 103.x speed engine in my nova. it provides enough speed to outrun all NPCs (assuming you use engine overload3) and halfway decent turnrates.
  • Shields: through the introduction of shunt to shields recharge rate is less important. look for high stats. 2000+ f/b shields is a near necessity
  • Armor: the bigger the better. nothing more to say
  • Capacitor: same as for shields. look for energy storage. high recharge is a nice bonus but not highest priority. (it will be overlaoded anyway) With Cap overload a mediocre cap can be great, but a great one (1100+ 40+) will be phenomenal
  • Booster: the faster the better. you will use it all the time to accelerate your ship and as escape tool. 30+ boost is nesseary imo. the higher the better.
  • Droid interface: since MPSs tend to get hit a lot low speed is desirable to shorten the times between shunts. it also speeds up the initial loadup of programs. 9.9 - 10.9 speed. Anything slower than this and you are asking to die.
  • weapons: crafted or looted guns. whatever is available. you should keep one thing in mind. dont use guns with ion style bolt. they lag your gunners when zoomed in. suboptimal since a lagged gunner wont hit anything - regardless how good the gun is. Never had this problem, I use a 4500 dmg blaster that fires the blue Ion bolt on my dorsal gun and haven't had an issue with this ever.
  • ordnance: whatever fits for the mission
Programs:
  • engine overload 3 - must have. Good average boost with less of the damage, and won't disable weapon systems.
  • weapon overload 3 - must have. Currently bugged(gives less energy per shot then more) but won't slow engines down.
  • Shunt to shields 4 - must have. As long as your capacitor is overloaded you are very set.
  • reactor overload 3- as nesseary. nice to have for situations when the reactor gets damaged and some stuff gets disabled.
  • capacitor overload 3- very handy since it raises capacitor regen and max energy. more energy = more shields regened per shunt.
  • shield adjust/reinforce - as nesseary. Shield reinforce is very useful for making an assult onto another slow moving vehicle, giving more power to the shields.
Wish List:
  1. Ordnance Panels Built into the ship as well. This would have 2-fold ability. One would be to repair it. The other would be to allow members of the crew to re-load the ordnance once it ran dry, mid-flight.
  2. Countermeasure panel. There isn't one that i have found and would be needed.
  3. Droid Interface panel. Also something i haven't found yet, perhaps this one could be built right into the cockpit area.
  4. Stronger Armor and Shielding for the MPS. For the most part even with high end mark 5 crafted components the MPS for its size and power is not armored enough to compete with. Perhaps allowing a more powerful armor, near the 3k-5k range, but at an extremely high  mass cost. This would force these sheilds and armor to only be used in a MPS since it already has a large mass of area to be used.
  5. More things the non-chair crew can do to keep busy. While en-route to various missions it can be very very boring to sit there and not do anything for a majority of the fight. Even when the MPS starts taking decent damage to the point things need repaired. It only takes a few more shots before the whole thing is destroyed anyway. Increasing the armor of the ship can help to a degree. However having a system where a player can plug into a pannel or run through some basic gui items attached to various panels like shields or weapons, can cause a slight increase in power or better efficiancy without causing any dmg to the item etc...
  6. A pilot triggerable alarm. There are times when en-route to missions or flying to a station etc, that your gunnery crew will be doing things on the ship walking around when you might get aggroed. Having say only in 4-5 places 1 blue colored alarm that is triggered by the pilot, perhaps with the sound that comes from the swep1 on the queen's ship when the droids go to the rescue! or something to signify that the ship is under attack and the crew needs to man the guns!
  7. On-Board Repair droids(Idea by: Moricky). Have Droids with special de made repair modules where you load them up with the repair kits, and when the ship components take damage, the droid would automaticlly go to the panel and start reparing it at X rate, for X multiplier of the repair kit. These droids should either be placed as a part of the ship, or made to work from any players who call one out anywhere on the Multi-player ship.
  8. On-Board Droid Power Boosting. Have Droids with special DE components that allow members aboard the ship who aren't manning a gunner or ops chair position to hook their droids up to specific devices to further boost their capabilities at a somewhat large cost to the droids power ability, requireing alot of droid batteries or a power droid to be running around recharging these droids.
  9. Docking Ability between ships. This is a big one. All 4 Multi-person ships including the sorosuub, as far as i know, have docking hatches in some form. Pilot owners should be able to add a name to a different list in the ship. The name would have to be the pilot owner of the opposite craft. Both would have to come to a hault, and then they could dock with each other. On the inside of the ships, at the docking hatch there would be a terminal that would open up. This terminal is nothing more then transfer to the other ship. Nothing spectacular needs to be done. Thus the characters can load into the opposing craft instead of dealing actually connecting the two in some way. This can also provide player content out the wazoo. Capturing ships, even perhaps npc' ships for non-space loot provided theres some heavy duty npc's guarding their ship on the inside... as well as transfering personell or loot if a guild should decide to move to a spot and camp it for loot they could turn it in to a MPS, to hold untill a sorosuub or some other ship could come buy and take a load of supplies back to a planet for home base. Of course as well as with this anyone not in an mps should be able to dock but the only thing they can do is transfer items to and from inventory to a loot box or a transfer box within that mps.
  10. Optional Storage space components. 75 inventory is ok for a ship, but add in furniture, supplies and other storage you can fill that up rather quickly, thus as the ship collects loot theres no room for in the loot box. IDEA: Allow for optional storage components that add 75 inventory for a max of 2 extra spaces, each one would take 1 extra lot from your house lots but would allow you to have bigger space for loot furniture and supplies. These components of course should cause the max mass of the ship for components to reduce as well.
  11. Optional hard-points. On the both the VT-49 and theYKL-37R theres 3 forward ordnance and 2 gunnery turrets, 2 ordnance for the YT-1300, These ordnance slots should turn into optional hard points for either forward weapons, missile ordnance, possibly more countermeasure launchers, or in some cases depending on the physical design of the ship, the option to add another turret lot. I would remove both escape pod launchers on my ship in a heartbeat if i could attach a lateral turret to each side leaving me only 1 ordnance lot.
  12. Customizable soro-suub. I've looked the soro-suub out up and down inside and out, and it looks like it was originally designed to first, have a top and bottom gunner turret, as well as a rear turret in the top back. Theres 3 what looks like forward gunmounts on the bottom. Lando was able to customize his sub to have weapons and what not, i think we should have the ability to modify our sub's at one huge cost, one it should cost close to 100k to turn it into a modifiable deed, and it should be no longer in-vunerable when you do so. Of course it will still remain un-redeedable and un-tradeable as it is a veteran reward. The sorosuub should have the same thing as the decimator or the nova cruiser with one difference, 3 turrets, 2 top 1 bottom, no ordnance launchers, but 2-3 forward guns. I think it should be slower then a decimator and nova cruiser with all that extra equipment and turrets but still should be customizeable.
  13. MPS REWARDS. Prestige experience is mostly to completely useless, I've loaded up almost 10 mil on my imperial pilot and it starting to stack on my privateer alt. We should have the ability to max out our prestige xp and turn it in to get a rare reward ship. For the privateer they should get the yt-2000 model ship or some other corellian transport, the imperial should get some form of an imperial gunboat, where as the rebels would get their rebel gunboat. All the turrets being man-able, the gunboat would have ordnance launchers as well, nothing more then a bigger step up of the mpships we have now, just more firepower, more armored, and much slower(500 top speed with a 103 engine for example).

Bug List:

  1. Sometimes when repairing plasma conduits, they do not repair after hitting several times. Though most of the time it stops the decay on the item its attached to, it still causes plasma fires. (Landing can fix this though sometimes you must re-deed your ship in order to fix).*** Not seeing this anymore, need confirmation
  2. Plasma alarms constantly staying on. (seeing far less of this but still occurs once in awhile, possible fix is landing or re-deeding the ship.) ***Not seeing this anymore, need confirmation though
  3. Panels not appearing. There are several times ill launch into space after 3-4 previous launchers that my panels for all the components aren't loaded. Thus unable to repair them. (only fix i have found is to re-deed the ship and put it all back up together.) *** This is still happening, and in some cases re-deeding is not fixing the problem, a new deed will be needed.
  4. The "you must be standing still to man a gunner" or sit in the pilot seat is getting extremely annoying very quickly. When getting out to help with repairs and trying to jump back in to fend off fighters it can take up to 15 seconds before it will let you man a gunner or a seat.
Trick/Tip List:
  1. Pilot: When doing a bombing run on a heavilly armed target, fire all 3 of your ordnance at the exact same time. Bind them to the same weapons group especially. Though it doesn't increase a whole lot, it does do a bit more damage then if you fired them seperatly.
  2. Operations Officer/Pilot/Gunner: Use the weapons overload 3. This decreases the charge per shot, and increases damage to the gunner turrets. It also increases the damage done on your ordnance as well! Overcharge 4 is pretty much useless as it increases the damage significantly, but at huge cost to your capaciter. It also disables your ordnance no matter what.
  3. Pilot/Operations Officer: During escort missions, use engine efficiancy in combo with weapons overload. Match speeds with your escort. If you have a decent enough engine you can use efficiancy and still keep up with speed. This extra power will go into all of your other systems including shields.
  4. Multiple Operations Officers: You can have one sitting down, call a bombstrike or some other non-droid ability. Then get up, and have a 2nd member sit down and use theirs. As far as this was written, the timers are tied to the player, and not to the ship. However using 3 eweapons or ethrust etc will not stack as far as how much power they do, just on how long they last.
  5. Ship Owner: It's always helpful to place down repair kits for the corresponding panels right below, or right infront of it as a last chance emergancy, incase your engineers get killed.
 
 
I will add more as i learn, still not doing the whole pvp thing with it as i'm spending most of my time helping my guildies level up in their pilot. If anyone has any info they would like to add please feel free and reply. As well as any tips/bugs/wishes they would like to see. I will be checking this every day or two give or take and try and keep this more up to date as i learn stuff. Enjoy!

Message Edited by Tellahane on 01-07-2005 01:04 PM

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Nice Job. Thank you for the information. I look forward to updates and my own VT49

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Btw, in beta you'd stop being on fire once you left the "room" with the broken plasma conduit or if the conduit was fixed, so you may not need those fire suppression blankets.


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Awesome guide, going to have to kidnapp a doc then

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Can you still fly the decimator solo just as a pimp ride?

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Nice Guide, Now we can start planning for someday when we completed Black Epsilon tier 4 ...

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GuidoDerezo wrote:
Can you still fly the decimator solo just as a pimp ride?

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Yes, all you "need" to fly is a pilot.   Just to be good you need other ppl.
 
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Nice guide mate, although I do take issue with one thing: The Decimator is more of a light Torpedo Frigate than a heavy bomber.

I would also recommend you add the position of "Commander" to your list. Its always handy to have someone directing the actions of the entire crew, the Pilot already has enough on his hands flying and firing missiles.
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Tellahane,
 
Have you noticed that some plasma conduits just won't repair no matter how much you patch them?  We /bugged it last night after scrambling to and fro, only to have the leaks stop damaging our Grocery Getter after a jump, even though visually they hadn't abated.  We're also having a lot of problems with people loading on to the ship, with lots of crashes; it seems to be people with slower connections or plagued with lag.
 
For the up and coming masters, multiplayer ships ARE the bread and butter of some of the best times you'll have in JTL.  You can also bug your pilot to take you off to Deep Space to see the ISD up close and personal
 
Anyway, some of my lessons learned:
 
-You need to admin the crew so they can repair effectively
-Loot is dropped directly in the loot bin on the lower levels of the ship
-The co-pilot can use all of the droid programs you have installed as well as their specials-- a privateer as your co-pilot is a beautiful thing, between the IFF scramble and EMP combat tricks
-Enjoy the stay, its a hell of a ride
 
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nice guide

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PBandJedi wrote:
Tellahane,
 
Have you noticed that some plasma conduits just won't repair no matter how much you patch them?  We /bugged it last night after scrambling to and fro, only to have the leaks stop damaging our Grocery Getter after a jump, even though visually they hadn't abated.  We're also having a lot of problems with people loading on to the ship, with lots of crashes; it seems to be people with slower connections or plagued with lag.
 
For the up and coming masters, multiplayer ships ARE the bread and butter of some of the best times you'll have in JTL.  You can also bug your pilot to take you off to Deep Space to see the ISD up close and personal
 
Anyway, some of my lessons learned:
 
-You need to admin the crew so they can repair effectively
-Loot is dropped directly in the loot bin on the lower levels of the ship
-The co-pilot can use all of the droid programs you have installed as well as their specials-- a privateer as your co-pilot is a beautiful thing, between the IFF scramble and EMP combat tricks
-Enjoy the stay, its a hell of a ride
 
-Caucab
 
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I noticed this in the first few runs of my ship. Though i don't know what has changed but in my runs last night and some today, when i had a plasma leak it fixed itself fine. When i repaired it anyway. I'm wondering if the best way to run it is to have another master pilot jump in and fly once i take it up and hve myself run the operations station as well as run around and repair things if its an owner issue. I do admin everyone on my crew as a default, though i tried has anyone been able to set like a guild:MOD on their admin list and have it work?

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Great guide, btw for all you rebels this works for the Nova as well.  5 million mass available, and i can only seem to use 1/5th of it

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Tellahane,
 
Repairing the conduits seems to have worked themselves out, although we're getting alot (and I mean 1-2 people alot) of crashes/LD's per jump now.  That's starting to get pretty frustrating.  That and the stupid plasma leak klaxon-- I swear I heard that damned thing in my sleep.
 
I was never able to successfully use guild:name for admin on my ship; individual adminning works fine however.
 
Here's how I run the Grocery Getter:
 
-I pilot the ship and fire the missiles.  Oh how I love to annoy the crap out of my turret gunners   I'll do spot healing and wound control if needed.
-My co-pilot is a 4333 privateer who is able to see all of my flight computer programs on CTL-A>Astromech.  She's also extremely handy to have there for her combat tricks.  She's also a doctor.
-My PA Shipwright is the engineer, spending most of his time gaping like a slack-jawed yokel out of the front canopy, remarking at how pretty everything is.  I think he's spent too much time chained to his crafting station.
-The only time my turret gunners notice that is anything is wrong is usually after the capacitor has been shot out.  The rest of the time they're laughing maniacally as they rail away at everything that moves, or doesn't, in range, or not.  I <3 my gunners.
-I may have a couple of folks along for the ride, but they usually get bored quickly.  Of course once the damage starts coming in, they're cowering behind me on the bridge.  Maybe I should decorate the Grocery Getter.
 
We took out a vette last night in Deep Space.  Sure its guns were already down and there were only two BWings and an AWing left from the escort.  It was great practice otherwise
 
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PBandJedi wrote:
Tellahane,
 
Repairing the conduits seems to have worked themselves out, although we're getting alot (and I mean 1-2 people alot) of crashes/LD's per jump now.  That's starting to get pretty frustrating.  That and the stupid plasma leak klaxon-- I swear I heard that damned thing in my sleep.
 
I was never able to successfully use guild:name for admin on my ship; individual adminning works fine however.
 
Here's how I run the Grocery Getter:
 
-I pilot the ship and fire the missiles.  Oh how I love to annoy the crap out of my turret gunners   I'll do spot healing and wound control if needed.
-My co-pilot is a 4333 privateer who is able to see all of my flight computer programs on CTL-A>Astromech.  She's also extremely handy to have there for her combat tricks.  She's also a doctor.
-My PA Shipwright is the engineer, spending most of his time gaping like a slack-jawed yokel out of the front canopy, remarking at how pretty everything is.  I think he's spent too much time chained to his crafting station.
-The only time my turret gunners notice that is anything is wrong is usually after the capacitor has been shot out.  The rest of the time they're laughing maniacally as they rail away at everything that moves, or doesn't, in range, or not.  I <3 my gunners.
-I may have a couple of folks along for the ride, but they usually get bored quickly.  Of course once the damage starts coming in, they're cowering behind me on the bridge.  Maybe I should decorate the Grocery Getter.
 
We took out a vette last night in Deep Space.  Sure its guns were already down and there were only two BWings and an AWing left from the escort.  It was great practice otherwise
 
-Caucab
 
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Yes its hard for those who don't get to gun because they get bored, but when the battle starts and you start taking damage thats where the fun kicks in. finding something to do untill then thats a tough one. I'll look through and test some more stuff this afternoon when i have the time and put up the rest of the update i had lost *fumes* and include some of this information for me. How long did it take you to take down the vette? i went in with me and 1 other aggressor once(i was in an aggressor) to deep space and we practiced the run and got it down to a 10 minute strike, but with what i have planned out my strategy with the decimator i think i can reduce that time to 3 minute in and out strike given enough people.

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Add a master entertainer to your crew haha
 
That will keep them entertained till there is action

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lexington23 wrote:
Add a master entertainer to your crew haha
 
That will keep them entertained till there is action



Maybe ill add the stand-up-comic requirement..hehe

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GadonThek wrote:
Nice guide mate, although I do take issue with one thing: The Decimator is more of a light Torpedo Frigate than a heavy bomber.

I would also recommend you add the position of "Commander" to your list. Its always handy to have someone directing the actions of the entire crew, the Pilot already has enough on his hands flying and firing missiles.


I have thought about the commander thing theres 2 problems with it. 1 only master pilots can fly it so since theres still not an over-bundance of pilots its hard to get 2 pilots in both seats, and two you have to be in either pilot, op seat, or the 2 gunners to target ships and see whats around in the hip, so its hard to be a commander unless your in one of those seats. If i had to pick which would be incharge i would put myself in the op chair give orders and let another master pilot fly the ship.  Interesting idea though, ill play with it sometime if i find another master imp pilot whos not busy

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PBandJedi wrote:
Tellahane,
 
Anyway, some of my lessons learned:
 
-You need to admin the crew so they can repair effectively
-Loot is dropped directly in the loot bin on the lower levels of the ship
-The co-pilot can use all of the droid programs you have installed as well as their specials-- a privateer as your co-pilot is a beautiful thing, between the IFF scramble and EMP combat tricks
-Enjoy the stay, its a hell of a ride
 
-Caucab
 
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Karth D'Santh
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I'm gonna add a features list that includes some of this things like the loot goes into the loot container and such, if anyone has any more of these useful tips reply with em ill throw em on. As well anyone whos rebel or a privateer can you tell me which set's of your specials you use the most and why, as well as the benefit they may have to a multi-player ship and ill in-corporate that into the guide.

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Tellahane... have you tried having multiple co-pilots for extra tricks... and also as extra engineers?
 
I was wondering if the "trick" like IFFscramble and Bomberstrike can be used in quick succession since they are different players "tricks"
 
Example :
 
Co-pilot 1 launches bomberstrike
Gets up
 
Co-pilot 2 takes a seat and does IFFscramble
 
Yet another co-pilot does emp pulse... all the while the copilot/engineers are repairing the ship and keeping specials active.
 
Or is there a cool-down time in regards to tricks executed in a ship?
 
If there is NO cooldown time.... multiplayer ships may prove more usefull than I previously thought.

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Draconicius wrote:
Tellahane... have you tried having multiple co-pilots for extra tricks... and also as extra engineers?
 
I was wondering if the "trick" like IFFscramble and Bomberstrike can be used in quick succession since they are different players "tricks"
 
Example :
 
Co-pilot 1 launches bomberstrike
Gets up
 
Co-pilot 2 takes a seat and does IFFscramble
 
Yet another co-pilot does emp pulse... all the while the copilot/engineers are repairing the ship and keeping specials active.
 
Or is there a cool-down time in regards to tricks executed in a ship?
 
If there is NO cooldown time.... multiplayer ships may prove more usefull than I previously thought.


I'll run the double-bombstrike idea tonight, i don't have a privateer to me available tonight but ill try to hire one and test that as well. As well as stacking like a bombstrike1 and 2 and report back how well it does.

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Ooh, that sounds fun. Maybe I'll go for an MP ship after all.
 
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