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In what I found to be a well thought out post, the guys at Penny Arcade rag on EQ 2's graphics, and soe as a company.
 
John Smedley actually fires off a reply like some little kid in a flame war attacking Penny Arcade.
 
If the PRESIDENT of soe gets in flame wars, its obvious as to why this game is going down the toilet.
 
Here's the link:
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Oh yeah, you gotta scroll down a bit.

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wow... you'd think he would at least flame under an alias...something cool like "WoWLuver1"

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Darius2 wrote:
In what I found to be a well thought out post, the guys at Penny Arcade rag on EQ 2's graphics, and soe as a company.
 
John Smedley actually fires off a reply like some little kid in a flame war attacking Penny Arcade.
 
If the PRESIDENT of soe gets in flame wars, its obvious as to why this game is going down the toilet.
 
Here's the link:
Clicky


What are you talking about?  Seems like a reasonable rebuttal from smed.
 
I also saw some posts under a Smed handle at a EQ2 guildboard, and something about something from something awful.
02-17-2006 02:24 PM  

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Well, what WAS on the PA site until a few hours ago was the recounting of how incredibly rude SOE was when asked if they would like to make a contribution to Child's Play, the charity run by Penny-Arcade.

PA came to Chris Kramer, of SOE Interviewee fame, and asked if SOE would like to help out with anything at their Charity Gala in Winter 2004. Chris replied with a quote from an old Penny-Arcade post saying that they were not fans of EQ2's art style and did not even address the question of helping a charity.

Things like that make me wonder why SWG Community Relations gets so upset when we bring up things they've posted in the past.

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To be clear on this - I sent Gabe a private email which he proceeded to post. I have no problems with people criticizing our games. I felt he was a little harsh on the actual people that made them.. that's all. That's also the first time I had emailed Gabe and complained about anything.. ever.
 
In 15 years in this business  I have never once had an obviously private email posted like that. It was extremely unprofessional and I thought it was a pretty cheap shot.
 
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Smed wrote:
To be clear on this - I sent Gabe a private email which he proceeded to post. I have no problems with people criticizing our games. I felt he was a little harsh on the actual people that made them.. that's all. That's also the first time I had emailed Gabe and complained about anything.. ever.
 
In 15 years in this business  I have never once had an obviously private email posted like that. It was extremely unprofessional and I thought it was a pretty cheap shot.
 
Smed



pretty cheap

Lol

says smed

 

you actually played the NGE


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Smed wrote:
To be clear on this - I sent Gabe a private email which he proceeded to post. I have no problems with people criticizing our games. I felt he was a little harsh on the actual people that made them.. that's all. That's also the first time I had emailed Gabe and complained about anything.. ever.


In 15 years in this business I have never once had an obviously private email posted like that. It was extremely unprofessional and I thought it was a pretty cheap shot.


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So is refusing to help with a charity that helps bring relief to children in hospitals because the people who run it said they don't like the art style of a video game your company made.

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would you say that the job you and your mgmt team has done with this GREAT franchise is professional?
02-17-2006 02:31 PM  

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As a company we don't discuss the charitable stuff we do. If you do something for charity.. it shouldn't be PR fodder. When we have Make a Wish  Foundation kids in here I don't want it all over the front page of our webpages. It's just not our style.
 
After I pointed out a lot of this to Gabe he removed that part which I appreciate.
 
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Smed wrote:
As a company we don't discuss the charitable stuff we do. If you do something for charity.. it shouldn't be PR fodder. When we have Make a Wish  Foundation kids in here I don't want it all over the front page of our webpages. It's just not our style.
 
After I pointed out a lot of this to Gabe he removed that part which I appreciate.
 
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So the NGE was made for those Kids?

 

makes sense TBH

and please stop trolling

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Smed wrote:
To be clear on this - I sent Gabe a private email which he proceeded to post. I have no problems with people criticizing our games. I felt he was a little harsh on the actual people that made them.. that's all. That's also the first time I had emailed Gabe and complained about anything.. ever.
 
In 15 years in this business  I have never once had an obviously private email posted like that. It was extremely unprofessional and I thought it was a pretty cheap shot.
 
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how come when people air opinions against the nge here the post gets deleted then?

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As a leading member of Smedley's Smugglys I must say that in this day and age unfortunately...nothing is personal/confidential anymore.  Smed you should realise by now that any letter you send to a website(especially one like PA) might end up being spread all over the internet.  Not that its right, but its the truth.

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Ya know Smed...

 

I would have to agree with ya if what you say is true....low blow.

 

There are a lot of things I haven't liked in my 5 yrs of being a customer of you guys. There are times I see myself as just a number that is unimportant. Sort of like a lot of the folks wish to display SOE as over on the FoH brds where I frequent. Then other times I feel you guys do a smack dab marvelous job.

Other than the way you hit the SWG folks with NGE, I have to say SOE has been doing a damn fine job for a while now IMO. Me and the wife couldnt be happier with our AAPs. Nice to see you take the time to speak up on behalf of your employess...even if it was used as a further slam to ya.

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It just seemed strange to me to call him unprofessional after one of your own employees was so rude to him for something like asking to help with a charity is all.

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