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Tiggs posted a while back how visibility works in this thread. There is nothing new in this but I would like this saved somewhere since some threads by the devs tend to be deleted after a while. It is also AFAIK the only time the devs have said anything official about how visibility works. I think the message is quite clear except that "initiating combat" can be interpreted in different ways.

Many of you have asked for clarification on this so we have created a knowledge base article that sums it up a bit better.

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How does Jedi visibility work in regard to Bounty Hunter terminals?

Each of the following Jedi-relation actions has an associated Jedi Visibility Modifier:

-Equipping a Lightsaber.

-Initiating Combat with a Lightsaber equipped.

-Using any Jedi-related skills that consume Force power.

All PCs and all non-animal NPCs that observe a Jedi performing any of the above stated actions (observed as defined as within 32 meters) will contribute to an increase in the Jedi's Visibility Value (JVV).

-An opposing faction member who views this action will add the full value of the action to the Jedi Visibility Value.

-A Neutral PC or non-animal NPC will increase the JVV by 50 percent of the action's Jedi Visibility Modifier.

-A same-faction PC or non-animal NPC will increase the JVV by 25 percent of the action's Jedi Visibility Modifier.

Being grouped with a PC or non-animal NPC who is viewing this action has no influence on how Jedi Visibility is obtained.

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Being grouped with a PC or non-animal NPC who is viewing this action has no influence on how Jedi Visibility is obtained.


 

So does this mean I can group with guild members and go hunting using my LS and specials without getting any vis?!?

 


                                                                           
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Nurhab wrote:


Being grouped with a PC or non-animal NPC who is viewing this action has no influence on how Jedi Visibility is obtained.


So does this mean I can group with guild members and go hunting using my LS and specials without getting any vis?!?



No, it simply means that being grouped means that the visibility rules don't change..... You'll still gain vis in the same way as if you weren't grouped.

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Epichistonian wrote:


Nurhab wrote:


Being grouped with a PC or non-animal NPC who is viewing this action has no influence on how Jedi Visibility is obtained.


So does this mean I can group with guild members and go hunting using my LS and specials without getting any vis?!?



No, it simply means that being grouped means that the visibility rules don't change..... You'll still gain vis in the same way as if you weren't grouped.


Actually, I read that to mean the opposite; i.e. that being group doesn't contribute to visibility obtained.

I don't suppose there is any way to get a clarification on this, is there?

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Yterbium wrote:


Epichistonian wrote:


Nurhab wrote:


Being grouped with a PC or non-animal NPC who is viewing this action has no influence on how Jedi Visibility is obtained.


So does this mean I can group with guild members and go hunting using my LS and specials without getting any vis?!?



No, it simply means that being grouped means that the visibility rules don't change..... You'll still gain vis in the same way as if you weren't grouped.


Actually, I read that to mean the opposite; i.e. that being group doesn't contribute to visibility obtained.

I don't suppose there is any way to get a clarification on this, is there?




It can't mean that. It says "no influence on how visibility is gained". That can only mean that all of the above aplies no matter if you are in a group or not.

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Do we really need clarification? It's pretty clear.

Grouping does nothing. Period.

No extra visibility, no less visibility. Just exactly the same as not being grouped.

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Xyntar wrote:
Do we really need clarification? It's pretty clear.

Grouping does nothing. Period.

No extra visibility, no less visibility. Just exactly the same as not being grouped.



im not risking it.  plus other ppl slow me down

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Being grouped and hunting with someone does give you Vis... don't do it. That's how Hidden got me.

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yarble wrote:


Xyntar wrote:
Do we really need clarification? It's pretty clear.

Grouping does nothing. Period.

No extra visibility, no less visibility. Just exactly the same as not being grouped.



im not risking it. plus other ppl slow me down






In response to your sig...

Tiggs' original team comments with picture.

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Xyntar wrote:


yarble wrote:


Xyntar wrote:
Do we really need clarification? It's pretty clear.

Grouping does nothing. Period.

No extra visibility, no less visibility. Just exactly the same as not being grouped.



im not risking it. plus other ppl slow me down






In response to your sig...

Tiggs' original team comments with picture.


i dont see a letter by Diane "Tiggs" Migliaccio can you link it? maybe i just cant see it

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Let's try this one: Clicky

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