Due to some requests, I thought I would start out a "post defense stacking nerf" pistoleer pvp template thread. As with last time, this is only for templates that include master pistoleer. I will just be giving general thoughts.
I have been a pistoleer since August, and have not strayed since (although I have been tempted many times). I ONLY PvP in this game, so I do know what I am talking about when it comes to these templates. Pistoleer may be a gimped profession (broken specials, pools, gun certs, etc), but it's all what you make of it with your remaining skill points. Not all pistoleers suck.
Pistoleer + BH pistol 4 (SEE BOTTOM OF POST FOR REVISIONS)
Pure offense, just as before. You have the second highest acuracy in the game (behind TKA), and now you can do it with stun damage (geno blasters). The old tangle pistol stats were horrible..in the 180 max damage range...and we all know how high the new geno's can get. So, you get 95 dodge, 1 KD (good for 10m), 1 fire damage shot, 2 bleeds, high speed, and high accuracy. You can target both the mind and the health pools at amazing speed. The only thing lacking in this template is range/melee defenses. Because of this, make sure you kite all melee, as your KD will never drop them. Start with torso shot, add a mind bleed, and go crazy on eye shot. There is a rumor that eye shot's delay modifier was increased, but I have not seen it yet. Use your scatter and geno pistol...don't waste your time with the other guns in PvP...anyone worth their weight in PvP will have 80% + armor. This is the best template for group pvp, as you can have melee people tanking for you as you pick off pools.
Pistoleer+TKA+Dirty 4+4-0-0-0 Fencer
Well, you won't be firing your geno blaster at the speed cap and your accuracy is a bit lacking. However, your range and melee defense will be maxed, as will your dodge. Almost impossible to be knocked down or dizzy/kd'd. The thing that is the greatest about this template is that you can switch from range to melee depending on the situation. You can kite melee quite well...just bleed them and concentrate on their health pool. Use low blow for some range KD's and Last Ditch for a chance to stun. If they do happen to get close, do the switch to TKA..and apply intimidates, stuns, blind, and try and dizzy them. If you are against the almightly rifleman...get yourself in a building or behind something. They will eventually come to you....then it's TKA time or PMD1. You can also feign death...kinda useless for PvP solo, but great in groups. You can eventually get up as they concentrate on other group members. One note: There was a ninja nerf on Dizzy KD....the chance to land both now is much more rare. On a positive note, I have noticed UA3 hitting through the armor hole recently. I think this is the best overall template for solo pvp. This is my current template, although I have 4-0-3-0 because I am too lazy to figure out what to do with the rest of my dodge line skillpoints.
Pistoleer+Dirty 4 +Commando Hybrid (SEE BOTTOM OF POST FOR REVISIONS)
Great for Atst and turret killing, but really lacks speed and accuracy, as well as defenses. You wont be able to master Commando, but oh well. A good way to make this template is to get only novice commando (launcher cert), then take defenses in the TKA line (maybe 4-0-0-4). This is for pure offense and I have seen some great pvpers with this sort of template. Last Ditch (or Fan shot) + Launcher pistol= Death.
Same as above except lacking the fencer. You make more money slicing and selling faction...but you lose defenses. If you are pure PvP...do the above template instead.
Pistoleer + Rifleman
More people are doing this combo. You lose defenses, but you can again target pools. The problem I have with this one is that you will never use the pistoleer portion of your template. You would be better off getting Cm or Doc with rifleman.
Pistoleer + Expert CM
Was powerful, but now is nerfed. Get those mind poisens going, run away, and hope to god your first few fan shots hit the mind. You will spend most of your time getting triple incapped...as most good groups get rid of CM's first. This is more of a compliment template to CM, rather than a compliment template to pistoleer.
Pistoleer + Doc
Weak template. You can buff your self, but in battles you will still be busy healing people. As well, we all know that pistoleer by itself is weak due to broken specials and poor pool targeting, so you don't really gain anything combat wise doing this template. CM's will no longer be too dangerous to you, but you will have a hard time killing anyone that also has doc in their template. Doc is better reserved for Fencer, Pike, and Rifle templates.
Pistoleer + CH
Don't have anything to do with CH...it's is the absolute worst PvP decision your could ever make.
Pistoleer + Fencer
Well, still a strong template...#3 or #4 in my books. Your dodge is capped at 125 instead of 210, but you have access to some crazy ackalay stun batons. You are a defense template, and will be lacking a melee KD. Scatter hit is undodgeable as far as I know. Basically it is comparable to the TKA template, except you will be lacking the smuggler specials...which means no range KD, panic, or the beautiful Last Ditch.
Pistoleer + Carb
Better than it was, but defense will be lacking. Rifle is a better one if you want to go the route of two range templates.
Pistoleer + Brawler
With the war cry nerf, the only good thing is Lunge 2. Don't waste your skill points.
Pistoleer + Swordsman
More people are starting to like swordman due to some uber weapons...but I think swords are better suited to all melee templates.
Pistoleer + Pikeman
Pikeman is broken for the most part...although the DOT's can be great. I see little use in it with pistoleer. The only thing you get out of this is some good DOT's if you have the time and money to search for them. With all the CM nerf cries, there are many new doc's hanging around to cure DOT's, so I dont suggest it. Pikeman is better with Rifle or Doc templates.
That about it for now..I just put down my personall opinions. As with last time, please post your own thoughts..this is for the good of the pistoleer community.
UPDATED Sept 5th:
Master Pistol/BH Pistol 4/Dirty 4/Novice Commando/Novice TKA
Since the patch, I believe this is now the ONLY pistol template. Due to the weapon/armor delay during combat, all TKA/Fencer additives to pistoleer have become a liability. This template has speed, accuracy, access to every pistol, etc etc. The only thing you can switch around is grab medic, and then choose to drop either Torso Shot or Last Ditch along with your novice TKA....totally up to the player.
Master Pistol/ Master BH / Novice Medic or Novice Brawler
Not too shabby...have Fire KD, Fast Blast (not dodgebale), can hunt jedi. Speed is obviously capped, and you can use every pistol other than the launcher. You can also hunt Jedi (although you will likely die). Rough template to grind out, but a skilled PvPer can be good with MBH.
Message Edited by MCPrimetime on 09-05-2004 04:40 PM
Message Edited by MCPrimetime on 09-15-2004 11:53 PM