Just to try to help keep everyone up to date and the new faction changes:
Ground Civilian can ONLY be Privateer pilot
Ground Imperial can be Imperial or Privateer pilots
Ground Rebel can be Rebel or Privateer pilots
Changes to your current faction for neutral ground - factional pilots:
If you were a Neutral ground & Rebel or Imperial Pilot you will now be factionally alligned with the ground faction to go along with your space faction.
You will be a "combatant" when you log-in. [Patch change- After first death you will be set to "on-leave" automaticly]
You are NOT open to PvP unless you choose to go spec-forces.
If you do not wish to be attacked on sight by opposing NPC's you must go "on-leave" from the nearest of your faction recruiters.
If you choose to switch sides (or go true neutral):
Please unload and redeed all your ships first.
Go see the Recruiter for your pilots faction: Rebel: Recruiter Location: J'pai Brek (-5072, -2343) Tyrena, Corellia Imperial: Recruiter Location: Commander Landau (-5516,4403) Theed, Naboo Freelancer: Recruiter Location: Gil Burtin (-1174, -3647) Bestine, Tatooine
"Resign" from your current pilots faction.
Then go to see a faction recruiter (if needed) to quit your ground-based faction. [You must be a combatant and not "on leave" to resign from a ground faction]
You will get the standard "previous master bonus" of [XP * (1+the number of previous FACTIONAL masters)] if you previously had mastered a pilot squad in any of the factions. My understanding is you get 1+ for doing a single squad in any different faction. For a total of 3x+1 bonus (Rebel, Imperial, Privateer). You do not get a bonus for each squad but rather for completing any of the 3 squads in 1 faction. If you complete multiple squads in one faction you do not get a bonus. (I have yet to verify this myself, but I will on my next round)
If you are switching factions you will need to work off any negative faction you have in your newly chosen side before you can start on pilot.
You will need to start over with your new pilot profession from scratch. All XP and prestige will be set to zero when you "resign" your pilots skills.
If I am incorrect on any of this [or as things get "patched" for changes] please let me know.......
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Has their been any changes to how one obtains faction points in space?
Are we still required to go overt to earn faction points? If so, are privateer still unable to go to deepspace as overt?
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I am neutral on the ground, gave up my reb status when I went to sole crafting skills. But I have -5000 Imp faction, or close to that anyway.
However I am a RFS freelance pilot. How will I be aligned with the Imperials with that many negative faction points?
A thought? Anyone?
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I was digging through the live issues thread and found a problem.
Apparently theed is no longer an imperial stronghold. Ahh, heres the problem.
- Eveywhere, imperial recruiters - Imperial pilot coordinator is here. - RSF, unless they changed it is imperial aligned. - The NPC for both RSF and imperial navy pilot master missions are in theed.
What.... an... oversight. This really needs to be addresssed.
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Has their been any changes to how one obtains faction points in space?
Are we still required to go overt to earn faction points? If so, are privateer still unable to go to deepspace as overt?
Tested in live: (thanks Natiano) Imperial ground RSF Pilot no change in new system from yesterday on any of these (bummer on the DS one).
Eege Wrote:
Hey Monso, hwo is this gonna work??
I am neutral on the ground, gave up my reb status when I went to sole crafting skills. But I have -5000 Imp faction, or close to that anyway.
However I am a RFS freelance pilot. How will I be aligned with the Imperials with that many negative faction points? RSF is "Imperial aligned in space" but you do not need to be imperial on ground to be an RSF pilot.
Ducimus Wrote:
I was digging through the live issues thread and found a problem. Apparently theed is no longer an imperial stronghold. Ahh, heres the problem. - Eveywhere, imperial recruiters - Imperial pilot coordinator is here. - RSF, unless they changed it is imperial aligned. - The NPC for both RSF and imperial navy pilot master missions are in theed. What.... an... oversight. This really needs to be addresssed.
Same issue for Rebels in Moenia and Tyrena and Imperials in Kaadara. The issue is "cross-factional" for both Rebels and Imperials. With the majority of the "strongholds" no longer having starports moving the Pilot trainers there would make you still have to travel thru a possible "enemy" city to even get to one the new non-changing stronggold cities. Thoughts? Suggestions? Other then obvious "go on-leave" when doing the pilot training.
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OK, just for clarification, what does item # 5 there mean? If I, as an Inquisitors Ace Imperial Pilot, were to, hypothetically want to become a Privateer, what is the exp bonus? Does this mean I get more exp per kill when I start over, so that it goes up quicker? Thanks!
Yes, yes and oo btw yes.
So 2X after your first master 3X after your second and so on....
Makes a much faster trip up the pilot tree. BUT remember this is only if you fully master a pilot profession "credit you will receive"
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For people who had trouble mastering and are going to have to start at novice again, regardless of their subsequent grind being 'easier xp', isn't this going to be a tad hard to swallow? How about a second option to not get any added master bonus and just let them pick one of the alternate squad masters?
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For people who had trouble mastering and are going to have to start at novice again, regardless of their subsequent grind being 'easier xp', isn't this going to be a tad hard to swallow? How about a second option to not get any added master bonus and just let them pick one of the alternate squad masters?
I have to say yes to this. I fully agree. Its too bad (insert whomever got picked) only got to "Pilot's corro" last week and I might have been too late in the game. We did talk about this here as well. And even then the cost of all new ships is an issue. but I did try to get this under the dev's radar with all of our suggestions. And your thought was almost exactly one of the options I raised.
EDIT TO ADD: Not trying to discount this as an issue in my mind at all. But I still am only hearing about "concerned" players and not players that it is directly affecting. And it could be the case that the Dev's see this, I am not sure. I think I have only seen a very small number of posters on both JTL and pilot forums (like in the 2 or 3range) where they are directly affected AND they had an issue with it (and yes one of them is a blue glowie so I had some help on pushing the issue). So while it may not be a widespread issue I still did try to get something done about it.
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Can you push it so that the Imperials can get Black Sun duty missions?
All they'd really have to do is change the duty missions that Imp Pilot Trainer on Endor (for Storm Squadron) to Black Sun instead of whatever it is now.
Eesh, this wasn't even in the patch notes. I know some people wont be happy about this. Good thing I'm a Rebel on the ground and in space.
I know that one of my friends on Tarquinas is very upset about this. He is just a casual gmer and doesnt read the forums. He used to be Rebel Vortex pilot 4433. however, after he got killed in Theed (for being made combatant without notice, thanks a lot) he went "on leave". He then wanted to continue his space mission, but couldnt enter the rebel base in Dant due to his on leave status. I highly suggest, that all pilot trainers are made available to all rebel pilots, regardless of their GCW status. Because he didnt know about the new change that neutral ground players can't fly for a faction, he tried to sneak around the on leave thing by going neutral. Needless to say, he lost everything now and is not happy at all.
More thourough information would have been grand. you can't expect everyone to read the forums, 24/7, especially when this thread was posted 4 hours after he lost all his pilot skills. No offense or flame intended but this was a major F up. And I bet there are loads more who didn't know and are facing the same problems now. Please, if you can, convince the devs to make the pilot trainers (all of them, imperial trainers in the retreat as well) accessible regardless on CGW status.
Thanks
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I had to give up months of flight time and 3/3/2/2 as an alliance pilot when I wanted to withdraw from the ground forces. Pretty lame that I could join the alliance as a pilot in the begining being neutral, picking up the ground part to see the trainers on Dant, and have to lose everything because I no longer wanted to be load killed or shot at while performing. Going on leave does not ensure your safety. I got scanned and almost killed while playing music in a cantina. So I had to give up everything I invested in as a pilot to start over as a Freelance Pilot.
I have a question on this. Lets suppose that some one wanted to do all the squadrons you start imperial and do those three then drop imperial and go do the neutrals. Then you go to drop neutral and go rebel but at this point your -5k rebel faction. If you speak to the rebel pilot recruiter will your negative faction just go away or will you not even be able to talk to them?
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