Here are the current top issues for Pikeman. I saw a lot of people requesting a specific thread for there so here ya go
Please note that this is not a discussion thread. If you would like to discuss adding/removing an issue, please start a new thread.
Thanks
Top-5:
Damage:
According to the description, Pikeman are "The hardest hitting melee profession." However, this is not reflected in the game. Polearm damage is mediocre at best, and needs to be increased
Suggested Solutions:
1) We need our Polearmhit3 modifier to be a x4 attack instead of a x3 attack
3) Heavy AP should not be out of the question for a hard-hitting profession, especially for a melee profession with short range and (easily-defended against) Kinetic damage.
Accuracy:
Two months ago, a change was made to polearm weapon accuracy mods. This change was a band-aid to tide us over untill the combat balance. However, the combat balance has now been delayed and accuracy is still an issue for us.
Suggested Solution:
At ideal rages, Long Vibro Axes and Vibro Lances should have positive range modifiers.
Defenses:
Pikeman have very low defenses, mainly toughness. This affects us negatively as we take more melee damage than any other melee profession.
Suggested Solution:
Change the +4 toughness modifiers in boxes 3 and 4 of the brawler profession to +10.
Block:
Block is ineffective, and needs to be balanced to dodge.
HAM costs:
Pikeman have huge HAM costs. With the combat balance delay, we request a decrease in our HAM costs as a temporary measure untill the new HAM system is in place.
'Extra Issues'
Spin/AOE:
These two attack styles comprise nearly half of our profession. However, there is very, very little difference between them. AOE has status effects, whereas Spin has higher damage. Something needs to be changed to seperate these two types of attacks away from one another better. Also, Stun and Stun2 are rendered useless when compared to polearmhit2, polearmhit3, and AoE2, and should be redone to give more variation to the profession.
Uniqueness:
Pikeman have excellent animations associated with our moves. However, each attack we have is either a clone or a semi-clone of other attacks in various professions. Pikeman need a skill/ability/attack that is unique to the profession and viable to combat.
Energy Lance:
Axkva Min's resistances need to be changed as to allow pikeman to deal damage to her. (Electricitcal or Kinetic damage types)
Legwand
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Block works all the time for me. Even outside COB.
It just allows damage.
Legwand Longfellow Master Pikeman/Brawler TKA/Fencer/Heavy Swordsman There's a big black hole gonna eat me up someday Someday fades away, like a memory
you still take damage when you block that needs to be fixed
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Block is intended to only stop 50% damage, and that will not be changing. But block will be changing so it is on par with dodge. Personally I never see myself block at all, but if you guys say it does well, then I must not be paying that close attention lol.
For the hit3 modifier, that's something they would have put in the patch notes or at least mentioned. I will ask but I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed.
How about availabilty of some of our weapons, namely the energy lance?
Swordsmen only get one chance to get a schematic for their weapon, however, it is a gauranteed spawn, you just have to survive long enough to obtain said schematic.
Riflemen can get the new genosian blaster with relative ease, and cubes are not that difficult.
Fencers are in a bad spot, cause the only rantok you can really get is a theme park delivery item, and has horrible stats.
We on the other hand, have a weapon that offers a unique damage type among melee weapons, but is quite difficult to get, taking into consideration things like low/slow spawn rate, low loot rate, heavily camped, multiple kills involved, and most importantly, the npc that drops it is completely immune to any damage short of DOTs we can throw at her.
All in all, I have to say I enjoy this class more than the other two melee professions I have mastered (tka and fencer). We just need a little nudge in the right direction.
Daros
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I thought I was reading somewhere that when you block, your combat log showed "Counterattack" instead of "Block." Would explain not seeing it.. I see Counterattack all the time.
Though I do see "Dodge" all the time with my gaffi out... and I still haven't trained novice fencer...............
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Please, this thread isn't for discussion on the issues. But by all means feel free to create a new thread for discussion purposes on adding/removing issues from the list.
I'm in the same boat as you gunman I don't block at all , people say they see it in there combat logs but I'm still taking way to much damage for 50% off.
Block is intended to only stop 50% damage, and that will not be changing. But block will be changing so it is on par with dodge. Personally I never see myself block at all, but if you guys say it does well, then I must not be paying that close attention lol.
For the hit3 modifier, that's something they would have put in the patch notes or at least mentioned. I will ask but I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed.
That is fricking UNACCEPTABLE! Let's be clear here, we have by far the dumbest, laziest, most incompetent Developer assigned to our profession (and also the Bio-Engineer profession) so one reason is the fact that will never change is that moron would have a) stop playing KOTOR b) do some work c) actually communicate with someone. Well if you are resigned to the fact that we have only +57.5 defenses (being half of +115) then you need to rethink your priorities. We need to make our number one issue that Counterattack and Dodge take half damage, yes I know this is the worst thing to do by asking for nerfage, but guess what asking for that puts our brainpower inhibited Developer in a tight spot in rationalizing that to other players and Developers.
Honestly, when you compare the body of work he's done in the professions he covers versus other Developers he should be fired (I'm speaking of several profs not just Pikeman, we are the least of the damage he has done) and blacklisted from programming development. I figure this post is safe because being the lazy uncaring quote "programmer" unquote he is he will NEVER read this thread, as it has been made clear that he does NOT read the forums (from early BE conversations).
You need to have issue one be Defenses need to be equal in EFFECTIVENESS to Counterattack, being that Swordsman is supposed to be a complimentary support profession similar to Pikeman. Well that either means lifting Block up to stop as much damage as Counterattack or Counterattack allowing as much damage as Block, either/or. Comparing it Dodge is inappropriate as Fencer along with TKA are tanking professions.
Issue Two needs to be Damage, 'hardest hitting' my soe, if that's the case our 'elite' weapon the VL needs to be boosted up to the stats of the Power Hammer (AP2 ~480 max damage) and our special super difficult to get weapon the Energy Lance needs to be AP3 with similiar or slightly lower damage (or another damage type like Restraint or Blast).
How about availabilty of some of our weapons, namely the energy lance?
Swordsmen only get one chance to get a schematic for their weapon, however, it is a gauranteed spawn, you just have to survive long enough to obtain said schematic.
Riflemen can get the new genosian blaster with relative ease, and cubes are not that difficult.
Fencers are in a bad spot, cause the only rantok you can really get is a theme park delivery item, and has horrible stats.
We on the other hand, have a weapon that offers a unique damage type among melee weapons, but is quite difficult to get, taking into consideration things like low/slow spawn rate, low loot rate, heavily camped, multiple kills involved, and most importantly, the npc that drops it is completely immune to any damage short of DOTs we can throw at her.
All in all, I have to say I enjoy this class more than the other two melee professions I have mastered (tka and fencer). We just need a little nudge in the right direction.
Hric, Tempest server
Master Pikeman, Master Architect, Random Stacker.
Fencers aren't that bad off because they along with Swordsmen can get Acklay bones to boost their gaffi sticks. I've seen ones that have 146 Min Damage and 101 Max Damage (yes in that order). Would be nice if there was some loot drop that could be found to make better versions of our normal weapons.
Message Edited by antares_Kauri on 04-06-200409:39 AM
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We are the only profession without an ____ Damage modifier. There are even polearm damage tapes, none of which work.
Second of all, this is not a big one, but would still be nice. Dragoon was voted to replace one of our current titles, when will we see this go into effect? (Assuming you take the votes from the time it was supposed to end. I believe Dragoon still has a very nice lead, but I wont bother counting)
And what the hell, lets toss a third into the mix. We are the only weapon using profession with no weapon choices. We have the VL and LVA while all other professions have at least 1 more weapon that is semi useable. All I can think that comes close to our sad state of weapons is swordsman, but they have the hammer, 2h sword and cleaver, all which make quite decent weapons.
Oh, but we have the energy lance you say? You must kill the strongest creature/npc in the game to get just the schematic (An npc which we do 0 damage to per hit) just for a close to 1/100 chance of getting along with the motors to make it. Is this fair? Swordsman gets the very nice scythe (Humm, isnt a scythe a staff with a curved blade on the end kind of like oh I dunno...a pike or well, staff?) which I might add is quite easy to get, and 1 swordsman can get it all alone.
If the devs had put any thought into the one profession that would want to kill her most, and have an actual reason to (Unlike the greedy losers like shadowfire has (We have people that kill her, then sell the lances for 15 mill each)) they would have made her electricity vulnerable, or at least weak against it. This would only make her harmable by pikeman and bounty hunters, but since they wouldnt have enough skill points for a melee mitigation 3 they couldnt tank, or kill her.
The way it is right now a rifleman could solo Min while we cant even damage her. I dont know about any of you, but it seems a wee bit unfair in my view.
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Myst_Shade
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i got a VL with 18 polearm damage mod....that doesnt work...so....why its there.....maybe its some twisted way fo make fun of us...ah well....another one to add to the negative range modifyers....i love pikeman but...this is getting ridiculous
Jereck
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My issue is accuracy. I can seriously sit infront of some creature and miss 5-6 times in a row without using specials. And also i think the range mods on vibro axes and lances need to be changed. Best VL i've seen as far as range modifers was -7 all ranges.
Karras - Lowca Master Pikeman Master Heavy Swordsman Master melee speed/accuracy SOE needs to thank blizzard for my continued playing of this game.
Pikeman have very low defenses, mainly toughness. This affects us negatively as we take more melee damage than any other melee profession.
Suggested Solution:
Change the +4 toughness modifiers in boxes 3 and 4 of the brawler profession to +10.
Hey Gunny...I made a thread, but if you dont see it here is what I said..
MoC the Brawler Correspondent posted this..seems we are getting a toughness fix..maybe you can double check, and we can add a new one...Teh Linkage!
Gunman isn't posting on threads where the inequality of Block or Swordsman is brought up. Don't know if that's because he's not allowed to talk to us about the cone of silence that our absentee developer has himself shielded in or if it's because he's realized it's a forlorn hope to get even elementary improvements and so is powerleveling Swordsman/TKA so he can be viable in combat.
We have received some elementary improvements, twice we've gotten accuracy improvements. Evidently, we've quietly been given improved damage on polearmhit3, there is the energy lance (eventhough there are issues with it, we nonetheless have it and what other weapon has particle effects like it does? [although, there are issues with those, too...]).
Maybe Gunman not posting in these threads is a coincidence or maybe it is because there is no need to say anything else about it, really. He doesn't have any more official statements about it, and he has in the past made statements about block. He doesn't have to post in every single thread.
antares master pikeman
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antares_Kauri wrote: We have received some elementary improvements, twice we've gotten accuracy improvements. Evidently, we've quietly been given improved damage on polearmhit3, there is the energy lance (eventhough there are issues with it, we nonetheless have it and what other weapon has particle effects like it does? [although, there are issues with those, too...]).
Maybe Gunman not posting in these threads is a coincidence or maybe it is because there is no need to say anything else about it, really. He doesn't have any more official statements about it, and he has in the past made statements about block. He doesn't have to post in every single thread.
antares master pikeman
Yeah his statements about Block are the Dev said it isn't going to change. True as that may be, it's still unacceptable. I know most people are bad at math but look there is a world of difference from a GAME DESIGN perspective between taking half damage on a defensive SUCCESS and taking no damage on a defensive SUCCESS. Most Developers appear to have only played an elementary amount against lowlevel stuff, well taking half damage on a hit from a kreetle in their studies is not comparable to taking half damage on a hit from a Nightsister (which they have never tested themselves). The sooner we can get that elementary fact across to our inept developer through whatever means the sooner we can get some true love.
Gunman also said that the response about block mentioned that counterattack and dodge would be evaluated in the light of block only stopping 50%, eluding to the fact that they were not really supposed to be working as they are (i.e. doing the same thing, avoiding 100% at a higher or same frequency as block).
antares master pikeman
- I don't care what you say, Dinosaur Jr. is the best - Every profession wants to be Triangle Man ¬.¬ combatUpgrade.alpha::pikeman:: [Combat] SOE uses Combat Balance Delay on you for 14563 points of damage [Combat] You are stunned! [Combat] You have sustained 8476 Customer Loyalty Shock Wounds!
