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antares_Kauri
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I should have updated this sooner, but here is the update to "All the Stats" part I. 

I believe I have all the numbers correct (as of 12/04), but if you see something incorrect, post a correction. And if you have some other stats that will help add to the overall picture, by all means, post an addition

All of these stats are what a Master of each class would have, without any other skills. Current for the November publish.

class     | spd | acc | melee | ranged | toughness |_CoB eff | CoB dur | 
pikeman   | 75  | 150 |  30   |   25   |    26     |   115   |   30    |
swordsman | 75  | 130 |  20   |   15   |    43     |   110   |   31    |
fencer    | 90  | 150 |  74   |   69   |    32     |   115   |   31    |
tka       | 115 | 205 |  62   |   45   |    57     |   105   |   30    |


In addition, we have the special defenses:
class    | blnd | diz | kd | pc | stun | int | eq | dodge | cntr | blk | 
pikeman  | 20   | 40  | 20 | 30 | 50   |  0  |  0 |  0    |  0   | 115 |
swrdsman | 10   | 20  | 25 | 10 | 50   | 20  |  0 |  0    | 110  |  0  |
fencer   | 40   | 40  | 50 | 50 |  0   | 20  | 30 | 105   |  0   |  0  |
tka      | 10   |  5  | 20 | 20 |  5   |  0  | 55 |  0    |  0   |  0  |


Plus, TKA have some of their own special stats:
class    | damage | def acuity | meditate | 
tka      |  250   |     96     |   100    | 

Note: Master Brawler adds +5 to toughness, melee def., ranged def., accuracy, speed and CoB efficacy and +10 CoB duration for all brawler classes.

It's good to see that it's not just us with the red values and TKA with the green values anymore.

All the Stats part I:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pikeman&message.id=4712

 

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12-04-2003 10:06 PM  

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very much nicer than mine, lol.  yea i suck at organization

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Man your the best...why didnt you get choosen as our Correspondent?

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wow...check out that dizzy and stun defense.....pikeman = ownzorz

My vision for TKAs....
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=68040
12-04-2003 10:40 PM  

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woot stun defence

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12-05-2003 02:49 AM  

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It's good to see that it's not just us with the red values and TKA with the green values anymore.

Please inform the rest of the galaxy about this as well.

Geez I used to be BH and now I'm TKA/Pikeman.  I tell you the amount of whining focused towards BH and TKA is just pathetic.

You'd think people would realize that there is more to life than trying to beat four professions in PvP (BH, TKA, Commando, CH)

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Who cares that antares wasn't choosen for the correspondant position?

Someone else has been chosen so just get over it.  CLab you keep bringing this up all the time.  I'm so sick of people turning on the ONLY VOICE THEY HAVE TO THE DEVS just because they don't like them.  People get on Tanks (the new BH correspondant) over the stupidest things without realizing that he's the only BH that the devs will listen too.

Wepps had it just as bad.  He may have been hated by the masses he may have been loud mouthed and he may have been deemed irrational but he was my voice to the devs when I was a BH and I supported him as such.

I'll give Gunman21 my full support at all times.

Gunman21 is my voice to the devs he's my hope to get things fixed for this great profession and guess what. . . he's yours too.

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I agree. I would have liked the position, I know why I wasn't chosen this time around, doesn't matter now. Gunman will do great. He's the one with access to the correspondent's forum and the blue name and the job, so support him and let's avoid all that BH forum mess. There is no competition or anything like that. I'll support him fully, even if something comes up I disagree with (*cough*mounted combat*cough*).

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12-05-2003 07:53 AM  

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atimes wrote:

Please inform the rest of the galaxy about this as well.






Fencer definitely got a lot of help and are doing quite well right now. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that TKA get +55 more accuracy than anyone else, they do not need it at all. Overall, right now it seems like the stats are kind of muddled, I'd still like to know what role the devs see each of the melee classes falling into.

I also really want to see us have a superior stat, we still do not have one. Swordsmen don't look like they're doing too well if you only read the table, but due to counterattack working very very well, all those red defensive numbers aren't as harmful. Now, if only block was (more useful/worked right/didn't allow damage)...we'd be in a little better shape.

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12-05-2003 08:09 AM  

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Swordsmen appear to be hurting more than pikeman when you look at the raw stats, but it doesn't appear to be the case.  I wish I had the stats for some of the standard weapons, you know HAM costs, Accuracy mods, and damage.  Then we could see if weapons or mods make a big difference.  Also they do have a lot more toughness than we do, that could make a difference as well.

I can look at the stats on the lance, LVA, VL that I use (unsliced) if someone else could round up the weapon stats of the other melee classes.  Or this could just be a dumb idea too.

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DEVs : Pikeman? Thats a class?
12-05-2003 08:37 AM  

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Nice work.  So, if I was a master brawler and pikeman I suppose fencer would be the next logical step for the defense mods.

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12-05-2003 09:09 AM  

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Darn, I thought mounted combat would be cool-lol

Thanks for the support


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12-05-2003 09:23 AM  

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And thanks for updating the table!


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12-05-2003 09:23 AM  

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antares_Kauri wrote:

Plus, TKA have some of their own special stats:
class    | damage | def acuity | meditate | 
tka      |  250   |     96     |   100    | 

It's good to see that it's not just us with the red values and TKA with the green values anymore.

antares
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well... so what if they don't have all the green values anymore? They still overall(with a goood margin) beat the others due to the three extra stats(damage, def acuity and meditate). I wish the other classes would get some of that class definition too...
12-05-2003 09:27 AM  

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No argument there, it is simply nice to see that TKA is not totally dominant in *all* categories anymore. it's a step in the right direction. Evidently the devs realize this:



Thunderheart wrote:
... Its got to be reasonable, for instance, if TKA's are the damage dealers, then they are going to need a weakness and they can't be stealing all the thunder either. Every profession needs a strong role; pikeman, swordsman, fencers, etc.





http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Developers&message.id=14605&view=by_date_ascending&page=9

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