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Korlan's Bone Armor Giude: How to Craft, Price and Sell v 1.5 UPDATED 11/05/04 (NEW SECTION ADDED)   [ Edited ]
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INTRODUCTION

When talking about armor, more often then not, you will hear veteran players refer to Bone Armor to as “crap” or “waste of money”.But the fact is, Bone armor is more useful to the “New” or “Casual” player then most Armorsmith’s would care to let you know.

With its special resistance against energy weapons, a good set, proves to be an assent when taking on “grinding” mobs. Even in some advance missions or quests a good set of bone armor, along with some entertainer and doctor buffs, can hold it’s own on the PVE battlefront.

As a veteran player myself, i understand the workings of the various types of armor, and I have com to know that some "protection" is better then no protection at all. I know that there are a few out there wthat would disagree but if you don't take my word for it, I found an "offical" quote that I feel supports this. (The follow insert is taken from the “Advanced Guide Armor Fundamentals")

Q: Is bone armor with 20% energy better than composite with 5% energy? 

A: Protection ratings are absolutes. A higher value is a higher value. Their meanings don't change based on the armor type. So in this case, the bone is better against energy. Although the maximum potential protection for composite is higher than bone, it is possible for lighter superbly made armor to protect better than a poorly made heavy one.

Still not convinced that some armor is better then no armor? Well then, let me point out to you that even force users wear bone armor lol.In all seriousness, bone armor is worth the investment in your early stages of combat advancement no matter how you look at it.

So lets get to it, in this guide I’m going take you threw my process for finding the material necessary for crafting great Bone Armor, and how to sell it on the private and public markets. Also at the end of the guide I will provide what information I can on some special looted items involving bone armor.

PART ONE

GATHERING RESOURCES

In order to make just ONE suit of Bone Armor (Including crafted Bone Segments and Panels) you will need the following components:

Hide                      445 units

Bone                     311 units (*437 w/ segments)

Metal                    197 units (*274 w/ segments & panels)

Fiberplast              400 units (*w/ panels)

Inert Petrochemical   73 units

Crafted Bone Segments 9 (*Optional as this can be replaced with looted segments)

Fiberplast Panels 25

TOTAL MATERIAL USED = 1426 units (w/ crafted segments 1629)

The collection of metal, fiberplast and inert petrochemical is fairly easy to gather, just look for a nice spot on some planet and drop a harvester on it. The gathering of hide and bone is a little trickier.

It would help if you were a scout (which I am not) because then at least you would be able to gather bone/hide yourself at cost. BUT for those of us who don’t have the skill points to pick this profession up, we rely on the kindness of scouts and rangers.

Please remember that when gathering the resources make sure to CHECK too see that “Overall Quality” and “Shock Resistance” is of a high grade (800-900+ rating is reasonable) this will be further explained in Part Four of this guide where I talk about crafting.

If you’re not into the idea of gathering resources yourself, then I would suggest searching the private vendors as there are plenty of people out there selling resources. A little command I find useful is “ctrl+V”, which brings up your over head map. This will become your friend pretty quick, because under the vendor tab to the right of the screen you will find a LARGE list of places to shop from, select the ones you want and get ready to a lot of searching for the right stuff. Just keep in mind that the more you pay to MAKE the armor the more you will to CHARGE in order to break even.

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"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful. The strong. The weak. The innocent. The corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally."


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Korlen’s Tips for gathering resources:

Know what spawns are good for you. Check the bazaars and use this helpful site swgcraft.com

Enlist the help of a novice scout. Most new scouts enjoy the company of others; offer to lend a hand in missions for exchange of hide or bone (or other services ).

Join a guild. A lot of guilds out there are looking for crafters, find one that is willing to help you better yourself and them.

Make a business partner. If you know of an honest scout or ranger, make arrangements for them to supply you with hide and bone on a regular bases (get them to drop it off at your vendor if you can for easy pick up and money exchange).

Try not to pay more the 3cpu for good bone and hide... shop around… because your end cost will determine the sale.

PART TWO

SHOPPING FOR COMPONENTS

Before jumping right into buying components to help enhance your product. I think it is important to know what to look for. Not all components out there will work with this armor; so to save you a bit of time I will list all the components that I can used in the making of bone armor.

The following can be utilized for better enhancement:

Voritor Segments

Rancor Hide

Kimogila Segments

Krayt Scale

Janta Hide

Interwoven Bone Armor Segments**

Night Sister Shards**

** I have yet to experiment using this component

These seven components are the only ones that “I” know of that can be used in bone armor at the moment (if this changes I will update). Now I will attempt to explain what each component adds.

Voritor Segments: These will add Kinetic, Electrical and Base effectiveness to your armor. Most will add 500 ++ integrity and reduce the Health, Action, and Mind costs. Sample

Rancor Hide: These will add Heat, Cold, and Base effectiveness to your armor. Most will add 600++ integrity and reduce Action and mind costs. Sample

Kimogila Segments: These will add Heat, Cold and Base effectiveness to your armor. Most will add 700++ integrity and reduce the Health, Action and Mind costs. Sample

Krayt Scale: These will add Heat, Kinetic, Acid, Energy, Blast and Cold effectiveness to your armor. Sample

Janta Hide: The most common Janta hide will add a base effectiveness of 3%.

Sample

Interwoven Bone Armor Segments: This is a crafted item that only MASTER ARMORSMITH’S can make. The schematic for the said Segment can be looted from the “Acklay” at the Geonosian cave. A master Armorsmith can up too two layers of protection to this segment. The most popular choice is a STUN layer. It has 5 uses per schematic. Sample

Night Sister Shards:These will greatly reduce your Health, Action and Mind costs. As for bonuses I have yet to see any that offer any such bonus to protection stats. Sample

 

Hope this list makes it a little bit easier on what each component will add to bone armor.

 

Korlen’s tips for Bone Armor components:

Don’t over pay for Segments!

-When buying off the public bazaar you have to have patients. Not all deals will just pop out at you. Use the “Entire Galaxy” tab and search under “Misc + Armor components”. Try not to pay over 1500 credits for more advanced segments.

Read the information.

-This goes for anything you buy really. BUT for segments its really important. You need pay close attention to the “integrity” and “percentages” of the segment or hide. Rule of thumb is “higher the integrity, better the end results”.

Know your segments

-Refer to section two for more details on components

Don’t over pay for segments and hide!!

-Rule of thumb I use is, don’t pay higher then the “base” integrity for “common” segments and hide. AKA if Voritor has integrity of 500, don’t more then 500 cr for it.

-For higher grade segments and hide, look for bargains.

Use your over head map to find vendors

-There are bargains to be had for those who look for them. When on a planet I like to look for Scouting or BE vendors. Here I usually fine better then public bazaar prices on all the segments I want.

When in doubt do it yourself.

-All of these segments and hide are“Loot” items. So if you have the guts and skills to hunt such creatures yourself (or in a group), then do so. You will save in the long run on both ends of the scale.

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PART THREE

CRAFTING THE FINAL PRODUCT

I’m going to be honest, when I make Bone armor I don’t bother working on condition or encumbrance instead I choose to focus on the Resistance. Why? Because the encumbrance is already low, so why make it any less? And the Condition is usually in the 9000 range, which is more then enough for in many cases. Besides good segments will have an integrity bonus that will push up the condition anyway. In the end it is the protection that is provide that sells this armor.

When choosing the material to make Bone Armor, make sure that it has really good “Overall Quality” and “Shock Resistance”. These two areas of focus, that plays the most important part when experimenting for Armor Special effectiveness.

If you choose to do factory runs of armor make sure you have access to a “Wearable Factory” and that your components have the same serial number. I personally don’t do factory runs unless I have ample amounts of resources. Most of the time I have enough for one suit and prefer to make it a “personal touch” crafting session.

Grinding Bone Armor:

The rule of thumb (that was passed on to me) is, while in pratice mode, the XP gained from crafting a given item will be 2x the total resources used to make the item. With that said, If you wish to grind bone armor in order to "Master Artisan", I would suggest not to use it as a means to "Macro". Why? Because the components can get costly and lets not forget it is one of the few items that sells well for our profession.

For a more rewarding experience I would suggest to make each part by hand and sell them out right that way you get the best both worlds.

Moving on, here is a short and sweet list of Xp gained from bone armor (this list is still only a rough draft) :

  1. Fiberplast Panel:                   20 xp
  2. Bone Armor Segments:          34 xp **
  3. Bone Armor Gloves:             180 xp
  4. Bone Armor  Boots:             224 xp
  5. Bone Armor  Biceps:           204 xp
  6. Bone Armor Chestplate:       545 xp **
  7. Bone Armor Leggings:         335 xp
  8. Bone Armor  Helmet:           354 xp
  9. Bone Armor Bracers:           224 xp
 
Bone Armor Total (full suit): 2819 xp (give or take)
 
** = Results are comfrimed.

My HIGHEST results to date:

TO BE POSTED SHORTLY I keep for getting to do this

 

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PART FOUR "A"

THE PRICE IS RIGHT

Pricing is another key factor when selling this armor because lets face it, this armor is aimed at “starting” professions to help while you grind. It is for this reason that I have suggested several times to look for bargains when compiling the items needed to make the armor, otherwise you won’t get your money back.

In order to make a profit from this armor you need to make sure that your cost doesn’t’ exceed the limits of the customer. What I have done to keep my cost down is to harvest all the resources myself, that way I can charge about 3cpu and still cover my harvester cost. For bone and Hide I have networked a few good friends that gather them for me at same rate of my inorganic resources. And last and not least for Components I gather most of them myself while continuing to look for bargains on vendors.

I’m no expert when it come to math or accounting so I just keep it simple. This is what works for me so I will pass it on to you and it hope that it works for you as well. I use this equation to figure out what to charge for a full suit of armor:

My Cost:    Material Used x #cpu + (Component x 9 parts)= Cost

My Price:    Cost + % Mark up = Retail Cost

My Profit:    Retail – Cost = Profit

One important note here is that your markup will have to be 100% ++ in order to turn a profit… why because 100% will only cover your cost in this case. Other then that, it’s fairly basic and simple to use.

To show you how this works I will use a full suit “Voritor” Bone armor as an example, with components purchased for 500 cr each.

1426 x 3cpu + (500 x9) = 8778

8778 x 275% = 24139

24139 – 8778 = 15361

I like rounder number so I would charge 24200 for a full suit (in a container). Which would leave me with a profit of 15422cr from one full suit or armor. (To figure out what to charge for just "parts" of armor, just apply the same calaculation)

This may sound expensive at first but you have to remember that I am allowing for fluctuation in component cost as it is the one variable that you can’t really control.

Now there are other factors that I could add into this equation like, factory cost, shop cost, vendor cost, etc… but why bother!! The profit made from this should cover those expenses anyway, as well as leave you with enough room to purchase more components for your next batch of armor and keep the creditors off your back.

Here is the price list for “individual” prices for my Bone Armor, each of which is 99% experimented on (keep in mind that I use my connections to gather components which keeps my prices down). NOTE: I also charge a 50 cr fee to cover the cost of the travel pack that the armor is in.

Advance Bone Armor – For Full Suit = $ 17 000

  1. Gloves - 1500
  2. Boots - 1680
  3. Rt. Bicep - 1500
  4. Lt. Bicep - 1500
  5. Legging - 2270
  6. Helmet - 2270
  7. Rt. Bracer - 1680
  8. Lt. Bracer - 1680
  9. Chest - 2870

Janta Bone Armor – For Full Suit = $ 17 400

  1. Gloves - 1550
  2. Boots - 1730
  3. Rt. Bicep - 1550
  4. Lt. Bicep - 1550
  5. Legging - 2320
  6. Helmet - 2320
  7. Rt. Bracer - 1730
  8. Lt. Bracer - 1730
  9. Chest - 2920

Voritor Bone Armor – For Full Suit = $ 19 250

  1. Gloves - 1750
  2. Boots - 1930
  3. Rt. Bicep - 1750
  4. Lt. Bicep - 1750
  5. Legging - 2520
  6. Helmet - 2520
  7. Rt. Bracer - 1930
  8. Lt. Bracer - 1930
  9. Chest - 3120

Rancor Bone Armor – For Full Suit = $ 23 750

  1. Gloves - 2250
  2. Boots - 2430
  3. Rt. Bicep - 2250
  4. Lt. Bicep - 2250
  5. Legging - 3020
  6. Helmet - 3020
  7. Rt. Bracer - 2430
  8. Lt. Bracer - 2430
  9. Chest - 3620

Kimogila Bone Armor – For Full Suit = $ 28 250

  1. Gloves - 2750
  2. Boots - 2930
  3. Rt. Bicep - 2750
  4. Lt. Bicep - 2750
  5. Legging - 3520
  6. Helmet - 3520
  7. Rt. Bracer - 2930
  8. Lt. Bracer - 2930
  9. Chest - 4120

Krayt Bone Armor – For Full Suit = $ 37 250

  1. Gloves - 3750
  2. Boots - 3930
  3. Rt. Bicep - 3750
  4. Lt. Bicep - 3750
  5. Legging - 4520
  6. Helmet - 4520
  7. Rt. Bracer - 3930
  8. Lt. Bracer - 3930
  9. Chest - 5120

Nightsister Bone Armor - Suggested price unavailable

Interwoven Bone Armor - Suggested price unavailable

  

PART FOUR "B"

THE WAY OF THE SELL: GETTING YOUR ARMOR KNOWN

So now that you have your own price worked out. Its time to focus on the most important aspect of ARTISAN... and that is the "SELL" Just setting up a show and making armor is not going to sell your product, WHY? because who cares if you got the best stats around if no one knows about it? You have to take steps to GET people to come to you or your shop and the following easy to follow tips will help you on your way!

  1. Use the Public Vendor
    • You can place up to 25 items on a public vendorThats enought for 2 full suits of bone armor. So use this to your advantage.
    • CHOSE your public vendor wisely - After all, this is a noivce armor (for the most part ) and the best public vendors are in the cities that has alot of noivce people looking for good items. Mos Eisley, Bestine, Theed, and Coronet should be your top choices.
    • Include your shop name and loc in the title - Plan ahead and work your name and location into the title of the crafted armor. this way people will have a wp to your shop handy.
    • Keep an item on the Public Vendor - Try to keep atleast one item on the public vendor at all times. Yes it will cost you 20 credits everytime, and yes it only lasts a few days. BUT it will works as a perfect ad for your shop. BUT.. KEEP IT UP AS AN AUCTION... PLACE THE WORD "AD" IN THE TITLE.... MAX OUT THE LIMIT TO 6000.... and that should be it.
  2. Send Mail to those who send tells:
    • If someone you don't know ask a question, be nice, try to answer it THEN send them a mail with a WP to your shop.
  3. Create a "Chain Mail Ad":
    • Do up a nice ad, include prices and what you sell.
    • Send it to everyone on your list.
    • Ask them to pass it on to their friends or someone who might be looking for a good shop.
  4. Enlist the help of friends:
    • Ask your friends to pass the word on about your shop to people who ask for their help See tip 2

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"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful. The strong. The weak. The innocent. The corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally."


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PART FIVE

Styling and Profiling with Bone Armor

THE LOOK OF BONE ARMOR

The Dark Jedi Look:

The Kurgan Look (Bad Guy from Highlander):

The Space Pirate Look:

The Rouge Look:

 

PROFILING BONE ARMOR

In this little section I will post a few bone armor related items that have really caught my eye. alot of these refer to "looted" items but others will be related to crafted items with great stats. so feel free to take a look at these and drop a line on what you thinka bout it.

Legendary Krayt Scale: this has some really nice states, would love to see the bone armor that could have been made from this!!

Legendary Krayt Scale

Interwoven Bone Armor Chestplate: This is "Kaytiorn's" sample of bone armor made with a interwoven segment

Interwoven Bone Armor Chestplate

Legendary Bone Armor chestplate: this is "JZeus" sample of bone armor made with some Legendary item. most likely a Scale of a kimo.

Legendary Bone Armor chestplate

LOOTED Bone Armor Bicep: This "Exeptional" peice of armor was looted from a larger animal, maybe a Krayt or Rancor.

Exceptional Bone Armor Bicep

LOOTED Bone Armor Helmet: This "Eceptional" peice of armor was looted from a larger animal, maybe a Krayt or Rancor.

Exceptional Bone Armor Helmet

 

 

Thats all for now, but I do have some more coming... check back soon

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PART SIX

THANK YOU’S AND CREDIT

Thanks to Ittov of Shadowfire for the information on the "Interwoven Bone Armor Segments"

Thanks to“Image Dumb” and those who post their pictures there, you made it a lot easier for me at work to find the pictures I needed to show what the hell I was talking about.

Thanks to Kaytiorn for posting the picture of this "Interwoven Bone Armor Chestplate"

Thanks to JZeus for Posting the picture of this "Legendary Bone Armor Chestplate"

Thanks to ZonjaiNezBA for supplying me with bone!

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I updated this today, added what pictures I had here at work and also put in a bit of color in hopes of making it a little easier to read. enjoy

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Hi,

Good job with this!

I've added it to the Useful Artisan Postings list in the sticky area.

Take care,
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Good job on the guide! I always have some bone armor on my vendors for new players.
 
One thing you might consider adding is to get a Master Armorsmith to make Advanced Bone armor segments for you, using your own materials. As with all armor types, using advanced segments greatly improves the final product. The draw back is that advanced segments always require specific named resources. This can add to the cost of the final product.
 
 
 
 

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ActonNar wrote:
Good job on the guide! I always have some bone armor on my vendors for new players.
 
One thing you might consider adding is to get a Master Armorsmith to make Advanced Bone armor segments for you, using your own materials. As with all armor types, using advanced segments greatly improves the final product. The draw back is that advanced segments always require specific named resources. This can add to the cost of the final product.


I thought Advance bone Armor Segements and Interwoven are the one of the same? At least that is what i have been told. I also couldn't find any information ont he Advance bone armor segments.

 

thanks for the good word...

 

 

btw no star rating??

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Guruweaver wrote:
Hi,

Good job with this!

I've added it to the Useful Artisan Postings list in the sticky area.

Take care,
Guru


SWEET

thank you 

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Advanced Bone Armor segments are learned at "Personal Armor II" I think and require Rori bone (can't remember if it's animal or avian) and some named Iron. I don't know the specifics, I just remember an AS friend of mine mentioning it to me once.
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ok, thanks for clearing that up i will add the information on at asap..

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"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful. The strong. The weak. The innocent. The corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally."


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Re: Korlan's Bone Armor Giude (Crafting and More) v 1.1 **NOW IN HOLO COLOR**   [ Edited ]
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I used some NightSister Armor shards as the optional component in my bone armor segments.
 
The NS armor shards give -10 to all encumberences and have a base effectiveness of 3%.
 
I used decent (nothing great, 700 - 800 OQ and Mal) bone, hide, metal, and chemical to craft a bone armor chest piece with the lowest HAM that I could.
 
After experimenting on the segment and on the chest piece itself, I got a Bone Armor Chest Piece 19% resistant to energy attacks with a HAM cost of 30 Health / 14 Action / 0 Mind.
 
With 9 Shards and good resources, I could probably make a suit of bone armor with 40 HAM total encumberence.  It would be almost like you're not wearing armor at all

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/selfless bump.....

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"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful. The strong. The weak. The innocent. The corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally."


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OMG if I find out that anyone has used Kimo scales or Interwoven segments in bone armor, I will find them at their home and chastise them until my throat is sore.
 
Also, yes 20% resist bone armor is better than 5% Composite.  If I find out anyone has made 5% composite I will likewise, hunt them down and subject them to my brutal verbal assaults.
 
Also, hide and bone are difficult to come by in any quantity, and very expensive in any quality, would be very hard to use it on Bone Armor.  Though it might be neat to make yourself a decent set of bone armor I don't believe it's a financially viable comodity.  Only very new players would be satisfied with the protection, and they don't have any money, and probably couldn't even figure out how to operate a bizarre terminal, let alone find your store.
 
That being said, I must admit that I didn't read the whole post, or any of the responses, but I'm glad you did this.  I am a Master Armorsmith/13-point Master Artisan (don't ask me why) and so I've considered experimenting with bone armor.  Now, with your added inspiration I probably will see what I can do.  I think I'm gonna try doing the covette wearing bone armor, just for the screenshot.
 
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AkiraX wrote:
OMG if I find out that anyone has used Kimo scales or Interwoven segments in bone armor, I will find them at their home and chastise them until my throat is sore.



I use it all in my armor, and it sells great.....     But if you feel the need, my house is in the sigature, feel free to drop by anytime.... god knows i could use the company with all these people leaving the game 
 
 
And I stand by my products and bone armor of all sorts.... tis a fine armor that has gotten a bad rep for all the wrong reasons      ....  (I blame holo grinders and public vendor scamers     ) 

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Emperor's Hand
"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful. The strong. The weak. The innocent. The corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally."


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The advanced bone segment is a schematic you receive at Personal Armor 2. The Interwoven schematic is a loot item dropped from the Acklay, at the bottom of the Geonosian Caves.
 
The cost of the bone and hide can drastically reduce your profit margin for bone armor. If you have scouting skills, or guildies with them, this is negligable. Even without that, you can still get decent hide and bone from the bazaar occasionally. The profit margin will never compare to what we get for composite, but the target market for bone is newbies, without much money. I keep decent bone armor on my vendor more as a public service, than as a money maker. Plus, it's fun to play around with something besides composite occasionally.

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DJM_Order wrote:
AWSOME GUIDE !!!
Thanks do much man you dont know how much time this saves me
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no problem my friend, keep and eye out on this guide, I got some great new pictures to post soon, as well as some new information. such as.....

EXP per part which I forgot to add

 

 

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"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful. The strong. The weak. The innocent. The corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally."


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Advanced bone segments are :
 
20 rori animal bone
6 kammris iron
 
 
Getting high stat kammris is easy. It doesn't have as much effect on the final segment though. Rori bone for some reason is usually garbage, but when it is in season, it is easy to gather in large amounts. Taking a path from the rebel outpost to the bat caves, the natural spawns are great, most on the gualama level ( easy for novice elite combat types). The mission terminals there spawn missions fairly close to the base.
Using advanced bone will add an average of 5% energy or so to your final combine ( much higher if you have good rori bone). Bone armor is good for taking on low-mid level faction/npc missions, if you take the kinetic vuln out of the armor ( IE use kimo/ voritor segments; voritor scales). Many npcs run up to tank you, and you take kinetic damage. PvE ( animals) is nearly all kinetic damage ( plus a few spitting attacks). Bone armor with kinetic vulnerability is worthless in PvE animals.
 
I tell people it's a great alternative to composite. Why waste a 300k suit of composite ( losing condition) on low to mid level faction/ npc missions??? If you're going to be buffed, why not get that initial 50% damage reduction and be done with it? I didn't see you mention the AR1 factor. Once you emphasize that to your customer, they buy it over comp many a day. If you take the kinetic vuln out of the armor, it's not just blocking 5% of damage, it's blocking around 52% of damage. This means, you can easily take out those gualamas, unbuffed, and not waste composite for it. Comp is good for playing with rancors and Jantas. It results in wasted credits when doing normal hunting. EX: An excellent wooly hide comes into shift on rori. Armorsmiths are offering 100 cpu for it. So, you go hunt gualamas and virvurs. Are you going to waste credits on getting buffed?? Well, if you want to use specials to bring 'em down fast, you'll have to in comp. Plus you have condition loss every time you take damage, on that nice 300k suit. OR, you can buy a set of bone ( with kinetic enhancement) or maberi armor, for less than a tenth of the price, and fight UNBUFFED. You just saved yourself 70k or so credits a play session, AND, you don't haveto take the time to travel back to another planet and find a doc to get buffed.
 
 
 
One typo, you said rouge, I think you meant rogue ( for bone look). This is a pet peeve of many smugglers

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Tirgwystraff wrote:
Advanced bone segments are :
 
20 rori animal bone
6 kammris iron
 
 
One typo, you said rouge, I think you meant rogue ( for bone look). This is a pet peeve of many smugglers


duh! sorry... 

 

and thanks for the info on the avd. bone seg.

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Emperor's Hand
"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful. The strong. The weak. The innocent. The corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally."


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Hi all , just add in my rough notes for XP gained from bone armor... 
 
 
also... i keep forgeting to up load my pictures and results from armor... my bad I know

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*kicks self*
That's 23 rori bone, not 20. * kicks self* proofread in future, I must.

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Tirgwystraff wrote:
*kicks self*
That's 23 rori bone, not 20. * kicks self* proofread in future, I must.



heh, no problem i haven't gotten to writing that up yet, BTW would happen to have an image of this??

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Colonel Korlen Ti'Phesh {Imperial Officer}
Emperor's Hand
"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful. The strong. The weak. The innocent. The corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally."


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I'm completely incompetent when it comes to getting imagedump to take my screenshots. It always tells me my image size is too large.

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